One Nation Under ??the god of the koran??
The Iowa Winner .. Take a look
THIS DEFINITELY WARRANTS LOOKING INTO. THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED, 'ONE NATION UNDER GOD'. ALMIGHTY GOD, NOT THE GOD OF THE KORAN.
We checked this out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself..
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia . When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.' He does not say the Pledge of Allegiance, sing the National Anthem, nor put his hand over his heart when others pledge or sing.
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husb and of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta .
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (Their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs)
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!
If it comes down to being between him or Hillary .. then we REALLY are between a rock and a hard place.
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!
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quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
SOS... different day.
Maybe, but it seems like more people are thinking without our having to prompt them. And that's a good thing! [8D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by hisbigbootygirl
let's all just agree that OBAMA SUX!
even if u are a non-believer, u've got to agree that the above info on obama proves he's not the one. not the type. don't we want someone who will take an oath using the same bible we've always used??
couldn't have said it better myself0 -
quote:Originally posted by jwb267
quote:Originally posted by hisbigbootygirl
let's all just agree that OBAMA SUX!
even if u are a non-believer, u've got to agree that the above info on obama proves he's not the one. not the type. don't we want someone who will take an oath using the same bible we've always used??
couldn't have said it better myself
the quran thing think that was Keith Ellison, D MN
and it was T. Jefferson's Quran0 -
In that picture where is the flag ? When I do the pledge I face the flag not turn my back on it..Those people are looking every which way.. 0 -
is it just me, or do most of the comments re:obama revolve around any thing but a sustantive issue
no mention of policy,position, or public statements on any given issue
only ad-hominym comments about his religiosity, his supposed affiliations, or trumped up charges of public gaffs that upon investigation, are easily dismissed
where is the substance
any one have an opinion on his foreign policy
any one have an opinion on his plan for health care? welfare state? habeus corpus? 2nd amendment? any one
bueller bueller....
cmon
what country is this
the US
or a monarchy
a democraticaly administered federal republic?
or a corporate kleptocracy0 -
quote:Originally posted by jneid
is it just me, or do most of the comments re:obama revolve around any thing but a sustantive issue
no mention of policy,position, or public statements on any given issue
only ad-hominym comments about his religiosity, his supposed affiliations, or trumped up charges of public gaffs that upon investigation, are easily dismissed
where is the substance
any one have an opinion on his foreign policy
any one have an opinion on his plan for health care? welfare state? habeus corpus? 2nd amendment? any one
bueller bueller....
cmon
what country is this
the US
or a monarchy
a democraticaly administered federal republic?
or a corporate kleptocracy
what's ur other screen name??0 -
quote:Originally posted by hisbigbootygirl
quote:Originally posted by jneid
is it just me, or do most of the comments re:obama revolve around any thing but a sustantive issue
no mention of policy,position, or public statements on any given issue
only ad-hominym comments about his religiosity, his supposed affiliations, or trumped up charges of public gaffs that upon investigation, are easily dismissed
where is the substance
any one have an opinion on his foreign policy
any one have an opinion on his plan for health care? welfare state? habeus corpus? 2nd amendment? any one
bueller bueller....
cmon
what country is this
the US
or a monarchy
a democraticaly administered federal republic?
or a corporate kleptocracy
what's ur other screen name??
jneid
thats it
been a member of gun broker for a while
never posted before
read back a few for how i wound up here
the meme you are promoting is mostly untrue, and the parts that are remotely close to truth are taken out of context
the only bit that folks may legitimately take issue with is the
hand thing, and that occured whilst the natl anthem was being played, not the pledge so...
back to the prev. question
fiscal policy?
any thing other than that guy is a dooty head, he stole my shoe?
question my patriotism?
question my citizenship?
question my sanity?
my political affinity?
how many finger am I holding up Mr. Smith?
this topic is double plus good0 -
I'll take a shot at it for you.
any one have an opinion on his foreign policy?
I think he's going with "ignorence is bliss".
I do remember something about "hugs for Iran" and
invading Afghanistan.
any one have an opinion on his plan for health care? welfare state?
Yeah, he's all for it.
habeus corpus? 2nd amendment? any one
bueller bueller....
Doesn't line up with his socialist welfare state.
cmon
what country is this
the US
or a monarchy
a democraticaly administered federal republic?
or a corporate kleptocracy
Becoming more like a socialist/dictatoership.
You know, the democrat's new slogan, "The Constitution? What Constitution?"0 -
quote:Originally posted by sav99
I'll take a shot at it for you.
any one have an opinion on his foreign policy?
I think he's going with "ignorence is bliss".
I do remember something about "hugs for Iran" and
invading Afghanistan.
any one have an opinion on his plan for health care? welfare state?
Yeah, he's all for it.
habeus corpus? 2nd amendment? any one
bueller bueller....
Doesn't line up with his socialist welfare state.
cmon
what country is this
the US
or a monarchy
a democraticaly administered federal republic?
or a corporate kleptocracy
Becoming more like a socialist/dictatoership.
You know, the democrat's new slogan, "The Constitution? What Constitution?"0 -
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by HandgunHTR52
The only problem that I have with that is the statement that the God of the Koran is not the same God as the one that this nation was founded under. In fact, they are the same.
Abraham had two sons. His first, illegitimate, son, Ishmael and his second, legitimate son, Issac.
The Jews (and the inheritance that they were promised) decended from Issac.
Ishmael left the Jews and had twelve sons of his own. From Ishmael's line came Mohammed and modern day Arabs.
They still share the same God!
They are not the same God. Christianity's Godhead is made up of 3 persons...The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Three persons, one God. IMO, Muslims worship a false god...and one that is most certainly not the same God of Christianity.
So then, IMO you are not a monotheist. IMO, It would seem that you are the one that worships false Gods.
By the way Ishmael's mother was married to Abraham (not that she had any choise since she was given to him by Sarah) so he was a legitimate offspring.
There...I fixed it for you. You have to precursor statements of belief with "I believe", or "In my opinion". Posted by ECC
BTW...I think you missed a very important part of my post.
What, the reference to the tree-headed God? By the way you failed to put IMO before "They are not the same God." The simple fact is that the Muslim God is far closer to the Jewish God than the THREE Gods that you worship.
No...I did not forget. That is a fact that can be substantiated by examining each religion.0 -
my whole point on this
was that it is disingenuous to attack the charecter, whilst ignoring the substance
the status quo will bring us in the near future
natl. id cards
unsecured borders
fiscal and trade policy that would make a heroin addict look responsible
militarization of the police force
use of the military as a police force in other countries
use of private contractors to police US citizens
the US going from being the largest creditor (pre Reagan) to one of the largest debtor nations in the world
the US going from being one of the largest exporters to one of the largest importers in the world
US corporations using the tax payer and the US as a mailing address and moving jobs, goods, and money offshore
well, now that i think of it, that is already happening
obama may not be the best bet, but the fact that a post has gone this far, with this many responses based solely on a bit of thinly veiled xenophobia and rumor is a bit of a laugh
if the time was spent investigating the mans positions, or juxtaposing the same positions with those of other candidates
imagine the depth of understanding one would have, as well as the kind of information that would allow for an informed, intelligent decision, rather than one based on an emotive response to a base fear or instincual tribal rejection of all things "other"
its pretty scary
btw, did you hear the one about gay mexican staring frogs coming across the border to buy guns, get married, and vote for Nader?0 -
quote:Originally posted by jneid
my whole point on this
was that it is disingenuous to attack the charecter, whilst ignoring the substance
the status quo will bring us in the near future
natl. id cards
unsecured borders
fiscal and trade policy that would make a heroin addict look responsible
militarization of the police force
use of the military as a police force in other countries
use of private contractors to police US citizens
the US going from being the largest creditor (pre Reagan) to one of the largest debtor nations in the world
the US going from being one of the largest exporters to one of the largest importers in the world
US corporations using the tax payer and the US as a mailing address and moving jobs, goods, and money offshore
well, now that i think of it, that is already happening
obama may not be the best bet, but the fact that a post has gone this far, with this many responses based solely on a bit of thinly veiled xenophobia and rumor is a bit of a laugh
if the time was spent investigating the mans positions, or juxtaposing the same positions with those of other candidates
imagine the depth of understanding one would have, as well as the kind of information that would allow for an informed, intelligent decision, rather than one based on an emotive response to a base fear or instincual tribal rejection of all things "other"
its pretty scary
btw, did you hear the one about gay mexican staring frogs coming across the border to buy guns, get married, and vote for Nader?
I encourage the debate, but I doubt you will convince one individual on this board to vote for a Democrat. There are a couple who are already Democrats, but I don't think you are going to get any new converts. The Dems stand for everything that most of us are against.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
The Dems stand for everything that most of us are against.
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LOL
that is rich
not advocating for any of em
well, maybe Ron Paul
yeah, definately Ron Paul
i personally see no difference other than some surface bits, between the lot of em
Huckabee?, huckleberry
Thompson? "that boy's so stupid he thinks the mexican border pays rent"
Romney, animatronic or Jim Henson's last work?
Hillary, sounds like the aliens form mars attacks, and well, she is a Clinton....
Richardson, he dropped out
Rudy? -couple bits there-Bernie K, K-street, too much 9/11 not enough 411
what makes any of the group that we have been told we can vote for worth a crap?0 -
quote:Originally posted by jneid
LOL
that is rich
not advocating for any of em
well, maybe Ron Paul
yeah, definately Ron Paul
i personally see no difference other than some surface bits, between the lot of em
Huckabee?, huckleberry
Thompson? "that boy's so stupid he thinks the mexican border pays rent"
Romney, animatronic or Jim Henson's last work?
Hillary, sounds like the aliens form mars attacks, and well, she is a Clinton....
Richardson, he dropped out
Rudy? -couple bits there-Bernie K, K-street, too much 9/11 not enough 411
what makes any of the group that we have been told we can vote for worth a crap?
Absolutely nothing...but I'm leaning towards Huckabee.0 -
not only do I heartily encourage all and sundry to reserch the candidates, their respective records, etc., and that the decision that each of us comes to be one based on our personal convictions and life experience, I also heartily encourage all and sundry to be circumspect when it comes to rumor and hearsay.
Huckabee while he appeals to me on a visceral level (being a baptist minister could not hurt) seems a little disengaged to me, from my observations, his attention is held by whatever his campaign planners put in front of him, he has, since getting in the race, come away from his pre-race attention to the "folks" and moved on to photo shoots and sound bites, some of which have been rather embarrassing (unaware of NIE re:Iran incident comes to mind)
but being disengaged from the goings on of the nation would not be much of a change from the current bunch
paleo-conservatism
has a nice ring to it0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
I encourage the debate, but I doubt you will convince one individual on this board to vote for a Democrat. There are a couple who are already Democrats, but I don't think you are going to get any new converts. The Dems stand for everything that most of us are against.
Again you forgot the IMO.0 -
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
quote:Originally posted by ECC
I encourage the debate, but I doubt you will convince one individual on this board to vote for a Democrat. There are a couple who are already Democrats, but I don't think you are going to get any new converts. The Dems stand for everything that most of us are against.
Again you forgot the IMO.
why would he need an IMO in that paragraph?0 -
this all supposed to be put in political forun 0 -
oh it is. 
they don't like it! lol0
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