Who believes in Global Warming?
Do you believe in Global Warming? Yes/No
If Yes, is it Manmade? Yes/No
If Yes, is it Manmade? Yes/No
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Now now, if we don't all jump in and agree with the whole scare tactic the powers to be will surely take away all the toilet paper on the planet. We will be forced to resort to corn cobs and leaves again. Please don't make that happen!! 0 -
This guy does... 
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Not me. If at all, its just a natural occurrence. 0 -
yes
man made, no
the climate has changed up here no snow here to amount to anything in several years very very seldom gets below zero anymore.
being that my living is made from agriculture i have noticed changes that some may not.0 -
On one hand, I believe that it is only an arrogant, post-Christian or otherwise Godless culture or worldview that can attribute "global warming" to human-caused factors. Simply put, I don't think we are in that much control of such enormous changes on a planetary scale.
On the other hand, I believe that humans have done MUCH to poison our environment and wreak havoc with the ecosystems of the earth. There may even be some short-term effect on climatic conditions, i.e. acid rain, the ozone depletion (in measure) and other situations.
Finally, I sincerely believe that the currently "prevailing" thought, i.e. algore's gospel, is about nothing more or less than money and political control. There is an undeniable agenda of removing personal freedoms from the masses that seems to underly the whole fiasco. When governments seek to set the thermostat levels in private homes, and impose enormous punitive fees for "carbon credits," I'm hardly convinced that a benevolent concern for the future of the planet is at the heart of it all.
Besides, I honestly feel there are other THREATS and DANGERS lurking that, left unchecked and unnoticed, will have far more devastating impact on "life as we know it" than an occasional, cyclic change in the temperature or amount of ice mass at the poles.
But that's just my opinion...crucify me.0 -
nope, nope 0 -
Its the cavemans fault for discovering fire, how do you think the iceage ended. [;)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
I'm no scientist, but it looks to me like it just moved over. I've heard the accumulation of ice in Antarctica is actually growing.
When I was in Antarctica the eggheads told me they had found evidence that the entire continent used to be a rain forest (jungle). The earth is in a constant state of flux.0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
I�m no scientist, but it looks to me like it just moved over. I�ve heard the accumulation of ice in Antarctica is actually growing.
When I was in Antarctica the eggheads told me they had found evidence that the entire continent used to be a rain forest (jungle). The earth is in a constant state of flux.
rack ops had me doubting, but you're illustration was great, james. thanks buddy. makes a lot of sense.0 -
yes, they have found fossils in antartica...and coal as well, therefore it must have been warm at one stage in our ancient past 0 -
Yes, I believe in man made global warming.
No, I do not think it is part of the climate pattern we seem to be experiencing.
I am not sure we can do enough to affect the climate in any meaningful way.0 -
yes/yes. 0 -
Natural Climate shift, happens every few thousand years, and will keep happening long after man is gone. I will believe in man made global warming when monkeys fly out my ass. 0 -
Re: that picture... thats greenland, its ice covered land, not part of the sea ice, if you think greenland wasnt covered in ice in the summer in 1979, your even less intelligent than I thought.
Yes, I do beleive it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by CA sucks
Re: that picture... thats greenland, its ice covered land, not part of the sea ice, if you think greenland wasnt covered in ice in the summer in 1979, your even less intelligent than I thought.
Yes, I do beleive it.
I've never claimed intelligence, but Greenland isn't the only land mass included in the red outline. Look again, son.
Side note: If this is supposed to be a demonstration of intelligence, the abbreviation for "that is" is "that's", Greenland is capitalized, the abbreviation for "was not" is "wasn't". "beleive" is spelled "believe" (i before e except after c).0 -
OK guys, set me straight here. W/I the red boundary in the unaltered photo is Baffin Island (and it's neighbors). Really no significant land mass at all. Greenland, which is not sea ice, is not W/I the red boundary. What's the gig? Joe 0 -
quote:Originally posted by givette
OK guys, set me straight here. W/I the red boundary in the unaltered photo is Baffin Island (and it's neighbors). Really no significant land mass at all. Greenland, which is not sea ice, is not W/I the red boundary. What's the gig? Joe
Maybe it's not significant. If you say it isn't, I'll go along with that. It doesn't really matter. There is less ice in the Arctic than there used to be. That's a fact. There is a corresponding increase in ice in the Antarctic. That is also a fact. If we are going through a climate change making the earth warmer there will be a net decrease in ice on the globe. Throughout the existence of the earth there have been times when there was much more ice and much less ice. If we are still coming out of the last Ice Age, nobody knows how warm the earth will become before the next Ice Age.
The earth warms and cools for many reasons. We know some of them, probably not all. The earth was considerably warmer before the "Dark Ages". Then it cooled and the wheat crops failed. People learned to eat potatoes. Then the potato famine. Then the earth warmed again before everybody on earth starved.
These were just minor fluctuations between Ice Ages. We could just be going through one of these hiccups or we could be going through a genuine climate change. If it is a major climate change, it is doubtful it is caused by humans, but that doesn't matter either, because there is nothing humans can do about it except adapt to it as they have since they have been on earth.0 -
I believe in leaving things better than you found them. That is how I was raised.
Today if the technology is out there to do something two ways, and one way is beneficial to the environment, and the other is perhaps hurtful, I will do what I can to do the thing that could help the environment.
Having been to China, S. Korea, and all over the world and personally witnessed the polution, and disregard for the environment the rest of the world has, I believe that my efforts are insignificant, so I feel it is a matter of principles.
Leave things better than you found them whenever possible. I try to ride the train to work. It's a pain, it is cold or hot on my walk, it is over crowded in the afternoons, but I don't think it does any harm for me to not drive my car.0 -
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Hmmmmm....ever wondered how Greenland got it's name? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
I believe in leaving things better than you found them. That is how I was raised.
Today if the technology is out there to do something two ways, and one way is beneficial to the environment, and the other is perhaps hurtful, I will do what I can to do the thing that could help the environment.
Having been to China, S. Korea, and all over the world and personally witnessed the polution, and disregard for the environment the rest of the world has, I believe that my efforts are insignificant, so I feel it is a matter of principles.
Leave things better than you found them whenever possible. I try to ride the train to work. It's a pain, it is cold or hot on my walk, it is over crowded in the afternoons, but I don't think it does any harm for me to not drive my car.
Dave, in my opinion that's a pretty common sense way of looking at things, and maybe not as insignificant as we sometimes think.
When I was in the sixth grade I had a teacher who talked about how polluted Europe was and how much better we were than that. When I mentioned the creek I crossed every day on the way to and from school which was all colors of the rainbow and stank to high heaven (oil and sewage?), she said that's not pollution, just one dirty creek. (Europe had just come through the worst war in history. I don't know how they could not be polluted.)
Since then we have changed a lot of things and the air and water is cleaner now than it was when I was a youngster. A lot of people doing a lot of little things.
I believe economics come into play more than anything else in conservation. When forests are over cut wood gets expensive. When wood gets expensive demand goes down. When demand goes down less wood is cut. When new paper is cheaper than recycled paper, that tells me there is no shortage of pine (pulpwood).
I just think we need to be realistic. Real pollution does real damage and should be illegal. Cosmetic pollution should be stopped just because it should be stopped. It's ugly. I don't leave bean cans laying around where I hunt because I don't want to see them when I go back. It wouldn't do any real damage, but it's ugly.
There used to be a PSA commercial where somebody throws a can out of a car and makes the Indian cry. The announcer says "Pollution hurts". That's not pollution, that's litter. Littering should be stopped because it's ugly, but it confuses the public when we call it pollution.
I want to leave the planet at least as good as we found it too, but I think it is counter productive when we exaggerate the things which matter little and panic over the things we can do nothing about.0 -
quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
Hmmmmm....ever wondered how Greenland got it's name?
Because Leif Erickson thought if he named it Iceland he couldn't get anybody to move there? [:D]0 -
quote:There is a corresponding increase in ice in the Antarctic. That is also a fact.
Please provide a source for this "fact", I suspect it is made up BS.0 -
People try to read to much into everything. Like when my first wife caught me with that girl, she said I was cheating. Hell no I wasn't, that girl had the same odds as me. How is that cheating? Don 0 -
I'm starting to beleive it. I saw a good exhibit at the Museum of Science and Indusrty. It made alot of sense. The big question is: should we do anything about it? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
I'm no scientist, but it looks to me like it just moved over.
Sometimes I find myself at a loss for words....
For what its worth, Greenland is melting too. I guess that ice "just moved over" too.0 -
Yep, and Yep. I turned my heater on this morning.....[;)] 0 -
NO
Its my understanding that the area that is still covered is thicker than is was when it was wider.
These people don't know, they do have an agenda.
Save the 2nd amendment and keep out the U.N., Thats important0 -
quote:Originally posted by jma2006
Its my understanding that the area that is still covered is thicker than is was when it was wider.
These people don't know, they do have an agenda.
Your "understanding" couldn't much more wrong.
People are so busy searching for an "agenda" that they ignore the evidence thats right in front of them.0
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