VP Cheny pushes for end to DC gun ban
Vice President Signs Supreme Court Brief Pushing for End to D.C. Firearms Ban
Saturday , February 09, 2008
AP
WASHINGTON -
Vice President Cheney took the unusual step Friday of joining with lawmakers in signing a Supreme Court brief that goes further in support of gun rights than the one submitted by the Bush administration.
The filings were made in a case that challenges the District of Columbia's ban on handguns. It was scheduled to be argued on March 18.
Both briefs argue that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to own guns. However, the administration contends that too categorical a ruling could threaten other federal gun restrictions and wants the justices to send the case back to lower courts without deciding whether the handgun ban should fall.
Cheney joined more than 300 senators and representatives, led by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, who want the court to rule that Washington's ban is unconstitutional.
"The vice president believes strongly in Second Amendment rights," Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell said.
Seventeen Democratic lawmakers and District of Columbia Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton urged the court to uphold the ban.
Lawyers with long experience at the court could not recall another case in which a vice president took a position different from that of his own administration.
Saturday , February 09, 2008
AP
WASHINGTON -
Vice President Cheney took the unusual step Friday of joining with lawmakers in signing a Supreme Court brief that goes further in support of gun rights than the one submitted by the Bush administration.
The filings were made in a case that challenges the District of Columbia's ban on handguns. It was scheduled to be argued on March 18.
Both briefs argue that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to own guns. However, the administration contends that too categorical a ruling could threaten other federal gun restrictions and wants the justices to send the case back to lower courts without deciding whether the handgun ban should fall.
Cheney joined more than 300 senators and representatives, led by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, who want the court to rule that Washington's ban is unconstitutional.
"The vice president believes strongly in Second Amendment rights," Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell said.
Seventeen Democratic lawmakers and District of Columbia Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton urged the court to uphold the ban.
Lawyers with long experience at the court could not recall another case in which a vice president took a position different from that of his own administration.
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This may be the best thing Cheney has done in eight years. 0 -
I always liked Cheney. 0 -
BRAVOBravo Cheney[8D] 0 -
That dude has a lot of clout.
Hopefully W will stay on the sideline on this.
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thats great 0 -
I still think Cheney needs a hunter safety course though.[8D] 0 -
I like a guy that does something simply because it's the right thing to do. He doesn't have anything to gain; won't be running for office, has all the money he needs etc. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by slinger
I like a guy that does something simply because it's the right thing to do. He doesn't have anything to gain; won't be running for office, has all the money he needs etc.
I wouldn't count on our VP to do anything that wouldn't benefit himself either directly or in the future. He may not run for President of The United States, but he's a king-maker. This is a positioning move, mark my words.0 -
... remember ... he's had EIGHT YEARS to do it. Why now?
... MAYBE, because the Party is in the DUMPER ... slowly sinking
from sight/existence???
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Gee, zip.
Do these pants make us look cynical?0 -
LOL ... me? LOL
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Yeah.
Me, too.
But in my defense, I'm having new nose-pieces put on my rose-colored glasses.0 -
I'm cynical too, and will assume until proven wrong that Mr. Cheney or any other politician doing the right thing has something to gain by it. But -- it's still the right thing. There never has been and never will be absolute purity of motive and method this side of Heaven, so if we get what we want/need/are entitled to, let the VP play whatever game he might be up to. The DC ban needs to go.
That sounds a little pompous. Not intended, just sort of came out that way. This may help -- [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p].0 -
quote:mongrel1776:
But -- it's still the right thing.
Yeah - it's kinda like Custer trying to order Reno to speed it up a little as the
last arrow was being shot into his last trooper!
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You guys are truely hopeless. You finally get what you/we have been crying about and still spit it right back at them.[}:)] 0 -
Who's crying? I think it's hysterical!
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quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
You guys are truely hopeless. You finally get what you/we have been crying about and still spit it right back at them.[}:)]
I'm not spitting anything back.
I'm just questioning why, after helping disassemble our Constitution via the "Patriot Act", Mr. Cheney has such a magnanimous change of heart.0 -
you really think they care about us or citizens of dc?, dumbasses finally figured out it includes them too?
wonder why the ban was implimented in the first place?
Races in Washington:
Black (60.0%)
White Non-Hispanic (27.8%)
Hispanic (7.9%)
Other race (3.8%)
Two or more races (2.4%)
American Indian (0.8%)
Chinese (0.7%)
scroll down look at the crime rate
http://www.city-data.com/city/Washington-District-of-Columbia.html0 -
HARBINGER OF THE APOCALYPSE
Dick Cheney and I agree on something.0 -
Why not? Cheney has absolutely nothing to lose. Joe 0 -
well him and bush are almost through, and they won't be there, why not[;)] 0 -
Oh for crying out loud.
Cheney has always been a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment.
Some of you are just too hateful and cynical. I'm sure Cheney has no ulterior motive beyond supporting the Second Amendment. Remember, that questionable brief came from the Justice Department and not from Bush's desk. He likely never heard about it until after it was submitted to the court.0 -
I'll take the help anywhere we can get it 0 -
How old is Chaney ??
Maybe a Conservative Dark Horse.
I'm a single issue voter.
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quote:However, the administration contends that too categorical a ruling could threaten other federal gun restrictions...
Well, we certainly wouldn't want that to happen, now would we?0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
Oh for crying out loud.
Cheney has always been a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment.
Some of you are just too hateful and cynical. I'm sure Cheney has no ulterior motive beyond supporting the Second Amendment. Remember, that questionable brief came from the Justice Department and not from Bush's desk. He likely never heard about it until after it was submitted to the court.
I'm not hateful.
But I am cynical.
There is political motivation behind this. I can smell it as surely as I can smell the weigh-up cows come in on the Tuesday train. It's a familiar smell, and like livestock, it is the smell of money.0 -
Cheney is mid 70s and in failing health. I don't believe he has any further political ambitions after retiring from the VP office. I don't see where he is playing any angle with this. 0 -
I admire Cheney for stepping up to acknowledge the Constitution. But I still would not want to hunt with him.[;)] 0 -
There must be Qual to hunt there [;)] 0 -
i,d rather hunt with cheney than ride in ted kennedy,s car. eastbank. 0
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