Wolves
I'm new here but wanted to post some pics I took this saturday Jan.6 2010 behind Pinehurst Idaho. I cannot begin to explain all the tracks seen and how outraged I am about their re-introduction to Idaho. Unfortunately I dont know how to add them to my post.
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quote:Originally posted by nord
Wolves do, in fact, hesitate to attack humans. So much so that I defy you to document an actual attack. We humans are not on their menu.
CBC News Online staff -- CBC News Online, 11/10/2005
RCMP in Saskatchewan are reporting the first human death attributed to wolves in North America in more than a century.
The Mounties say wolves likely killed an Ontario man in northern Saskatchewan earlier this week. The body of the 22-year-old was found Tuesday at Points North Landing near Wollaston Lake, about 450 kilometres northeast of La Ronge.
An autopsy indicated he was likely killed by animals, says RCMP spokesperson Heather Russell.
"All of the injuries discovered in the autopsy are consistent with animal bites. But you can't completely rule everything out until the investigation is complete."
Russell said the autopsy hasn't confirmed what animals attacked the man, but he noted wolves have been sighted in the area. Tracks believed to be those of wolves were seen around the body, leading Russell to believe those were the animals that likely killed the man.
The RCMP haven't released the name of the victim, but say he was from Oshawa.
I looked for the subsequent news report on the inquest that concluded it to be a wolf attack but couldn't find it.
Few hunters in Ontario will pass on the opportunity to kill a wolf, coyote or brush wolf. Their increasing numbers are depleting moose populations. Deer are plentiful at present - a few tough winters could change that and then the deer herd would also be in jeopardy.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marner
quote:Originally posted by nord
Wolves do, in fact, hesitate to attack humans. So much so that I defy you to document an actual attack. We humans are not on their menu.
CBC News Online staff -- CBC News Online, 11/10/2005
RCMP in Saskatchewan are reporting the first human death attributed to wolves in North America in more than a century.
The Mounties say wolves likely killed an Ontario man in northern Saskatchewan earlier this week. The body of the 22-year-old was found Tuesday at Points North Landing near Wollaston Lake, about 450 kilometres northeast of La Ronge.
An autopsy indicated he was likely killed by animals, says RCMP spokesperson Heather Russell.
"All of the injuries discovered in the autopsy are consistent with animal bites. But you can't completely rule everything out until the investigation is complete."
Russell said the autopsy hasn't confirmed what animals attacked the man, but he noted wolves have been sighted in the area. Tracks believed to be those of wolves were seen around the body, leading Russell to believe those were the animals that likely killed the man.
The RCMP haven't released the name of the victim, but say he was from Oshawa.
I looked for the subsequent news report on the inquest that concluded it to be a wolf attack but couldn't find it.
Few hunters in Ontario will pass on the opportunity to kill a wolf, coyote or brush wolf. Their increasing numbers are depleting moose populations. Deer are plentiful at present - a few tough winters could change that and then the deer herd would also be in jeopardy.
There have been quite a few wolf attacks on humans. I know of several instances where it has taken all the ammunition folks have had just to get out of a bad situation with wolves....anyone who thinks they are cuddly little puppies is seriously deluded.0 -
One "possible" fatality attributed to wolves - IN A HUNDRED YEARS - does not meet the criteria for statistical significance. In other words, it might as well not have been reported.
And my understanding is that there has never been a documented human fatality due to wolf attack - Ah Say, Ah Say, Ah Say NEVER.
Welcome to GunBroker Marner. Stick around and piss some more people off.[:)]0 -
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quote:Originally posted by fideau
When snails dominated the earth they didn't give a slimy damn if a human was in their way.
country quote of the week! hahahaha
are you serious?
My way of saying only man has shown mercy to lower forms of life. Any other that was dominate cared for nothing but it's own life. Humans have caused changes in nature, certainly. Things that adapt, survive. I see no reason to try to force a change by replacing a species artificially in places they can no longer exist naturally. And to say that's ok even if they kill you is probably one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard.0 -
Fun to come back a couple of days later, and see where this thread has gone. A couple of replies:
No, the federal gov't does not reimburse for livestock kills. Defenders of Wildlife did for a while, but then realized they'd soon be bankrupt. With the new state management programs, MT, WY, and ID would reimburse for livestock losses using federal and/or state funds. But these need to be CONFIRMED wolf kills, and there's the rub.
Flyfisher is correct that game wardens do not work in the national park. I was not referring to the NP but the surrounding national forests. Specifically, the Dunoir area west of Dubois WY, where I have read statements from game wardens that they have seen tracks and heard wolf howls in the 1980s.
And as clarification, I do not hate wolves. I love all God's critters, from an elk down to a housefly. What I hate is government stupidity, political pandering, and pretending to follow science when you are not. The Canadian wolves are now here, and will remain. They need to be culled in numbers, and they also need to be taught to avoid man.
Make no mistake: what is behind the introduction of this species is to deprive humans of hunting opportunities, and to basically make hunting extinct. That's the reason why this was proposed, and that's why it is so well funded.0 -
OK One more time....thank-you river rat and yes there have been lots of sightings prior to the release on the ID side of the park. There had a few sightings in the NW corner of MT but the Yellowstone release really mucked things up.
Devils advocate statement...... the only good thing that came out of the yellowstone transplants is that the wolves took the northern yellowstone elk herd from 18,000 down to about 6,000(which is more inline w/ carrying capicity)
Wolves did not attend Montana State U and get a range degree w/ a wildlife focus like I did. Therefore they do not understand that now they just need to die off and form balance. Now they are turning their attention to bighorn sheep and moose that both have low densities anyway. Yes they eat cattle, and some packs get shot. BUT the ranchers are getting reimbursed and they have reluctantly have admitted wolves are now part of the landscape and they would rather die than ranch somewhere else.
130 tags a year is a good MANAGEMENT # and the general public is where they need to be distributed. Allocating tags to ranchers cuts Joe lunchbucket and his 12 year old kid out of the tag market. The ranchers are doing fine without them and most would not rather bother having to resell them. MT reimburses ranchers who offer public access at $10 per hunter per day up to $8000 dollars a year. This beats ranching for wildlife programs hands down. PLUS the program is funded by selling non-resident guaranteed combination tags so there is no cost to MT public. Everybody wins, guaranteed tags, 9 million acres of public access on private lands and $$ for ranchers.
Last of all my mom(86 yrs young) vividly remembers visiting a neighbors ranch as a child right after one of the neighbors children had been drug off and eaten by a wolf thanx for reading a long post0
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