Ruger 10/22 Trigger
I am looking for a .22 to practice with. I am doing more and more big game hunting but the price of ammunition and components limits my practice time on the range. An outfitter I was with suggested I pick up a .22 to practice with.
The problem is, every .22 I pick up has a horrible trigger. A mile and a half of creep and ten pounds of pull seems to be ther standard. (Ok, thats an exageration, but you know what I mean)
I have my remington 700 that I hunt with set to 3 pounds of pull and no creep. I would like my .22 to be the same.
I was looking at a ruger 10/22 which has the stereotypical "kiddie" trigger that I couldnt possible see the benefit of practicing with. I asked the salesman if there was anything with a light, crisp trigger and he suggested that I buy the 10/22 and get an aftermarket trigger.
The rub, I dont want to spend a fortune on this gun. The 10/22 is a great price, and I can swallow the $200 to replace the trigger. But what if it isnt what I want? Then I have a $400 to $500 piece of plastic and metal. Anyone with experience in aftermarket triggers? I noticed Timney does not make one. If I cant get this to work out, I may just pick up a NEF single shot, which have decent triggers from what I remember.
The problem is, every .22 I pick up has a horrible trigger. A mile and a half of creep and ten pounds of pull seems to be ther standard. (Ok, thats an exageration, but you know what I mean)
I have my remington 700 that I hunt with set to 3 pounds of pull and no creep. I would like my .22 to be the same.
I was looking at a ruger 10/22 which has the stereotypical "kiddie" trigger that I couldnt possible see the benefit of practicing with. I asked the salesman if there was anything with a light, crisp trigger and he suggested that I buy the 10/22 and get an aftermarket trigger.
The rub, I dont want to spend a fortune on this gun. The 10/22 is a great price, and I can swallow the $200 to replace the trigger. But what if it isnt what I want? Then I have a $400 to $500 piece of plastic and metal. Anyone with experience in aftermarket triggers? I noticed Timney does not make one. If I cant get this to work out, I may just pick up a NEF single shot, which have decent triggers from what I remember.
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i have a Volquartsen and a Kidd trigger groups and would recomend either one
but you can get power custom parts and change the sear and hammer it will help0 -
Mine is Volquartsen and works just fine. The 10/22 is aways going to be a clunky looking rifle, but it is simple, easy to work on/customize and makes a fine practice rifle. 0 -
Power Custom makes 2 triggers for the 10/22,Brownells has them. 1/2 hour to put in.I think around $70.00. 0 -
You can do alot of trigger information hunting @ rimfire central.
Do it your-self and information on after-market triggers. That way you can see what's worked for others.
Myself, I normally clean up and polish sections, I haven't found the urge yet to buy an after-market trigger set.
look in the 10/22 action section.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
also the tips and tricks section
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6
If your looking to eliminate creep pull a search on the "JB Weld Trick"0 -
A Volquartsen Hammer kit will fix you up well. I have installed a bunch of them and they typically give you a 2 1/2-3lb trigger pull with very little creep. They are pretty inexspensive (less than 1/4 the price of the whole new trigger assembly), easy to install and I just happen to have one for sell on Gun Broker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=892876960 -
If you have any Gunsmithing capabilities at all you can take a stock 10/22 trigger and file it and hone it until you get the right trigger pull you want.
Remember, Go in VERY small incrimints.
Don't worry if you screw up, Parts are VERY cheap for a stock 10/22 trigger.
Or, You can buy a 10/22 and spend a hundred extra bucks on a aftermarket trigger thats already filed and honed...... Your Choice.0 -
I would give up on the 10/22 idea and get a Marlin bolt action .22 . They are a helluva lot better rifle accurate wise, and cost about the same. 0 -
Get a CZ rimfire.
None finer for the money. 4.5# trigger from the factory and it's adjustable. Plus Eric Brooks produces trigger kits for $14.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cubslover
Get a CZ rimfire.
None finer for the money. 4.5# trigger from the factory and it's adjustable. Plus Eric Brooks produces trigger kits for $14.
good on ya Brand ... x2 on that !!0 -
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88671307
I just recently ordered one of his trigger groups and was very impressed with it.0 -
I would recommend a bolt action as close to your hunting rifle, in weight and feel, as you can get. 0 -
I picked up a CZ and snap capped it. It had about 1/2 inch of creep to it. It must have been a different model, or the creep can be adjusted out of it?
What Model Marlin are you guys refering to? I will check them out.
To be clear, I have very little gunsmithing skills, I almost always seek profesional help. That is who sets my large caliber rifle triggers for me.
Thanks for the websites, I will check them out. Fortunately I am in no hurry to make a decision.0 -
quote:Originally posted by scaupstopper
I picked up a CZ and snap capped it. It had about 1/2 inch of creep to it. It must have been a different model, or the creep can be adjusted out of it?
What Model Marlin are you guys refering to? I will check them out.
To be clear, I have very little gunsmithing skills, I almost always seek profesional help. That is who sets my large caliber rifle triggers for me.
Thanks for the websites, I will check them out. Fortunately I am in no hurry to make a decision.
The CZ triggers are adjustable for creep, overtravel and pull weight. 5 minutes with that rifle and I could have it where you wanted it. It really isn't hard at all. You could do it yourself.0 -
Well that would be nice. I wasnt a fan of the 10/22, just a fan of its price. I will talk to the gunshop about the CZ adjustments. Is there an on-line resource for instructions? 0 -
I got me a KIDD "two stage trigger" on my 10/22. Has a bit of travel before you hit resistance but it's a nice let off (reminds me of a double trigger without any resistance initially). It's funky (so one has to get used to it) but it's nice light tap. Mine's set at 20/20 ounces. I would've loved to have picked up a Jewell but I couldn't locate one.
The cost can go crazy since after market trigger will set you back as much as a rifle. Yeah I spent a good bit of cash on mine (I'll need to add the cost and do a write up).
With a bull barrel she will chunk up like Rosanne Barr.
If you go bolt action Marlin T bolt perhaps?0 -
if your looking for a inexpensive .22 with a great trigger look no further than a Savage with the accutrigger:
http://savagearms.com/markiifv.htm
http://savagearms.com/markiig.htm
http://savagearms.com/markiibv.htm
http://savagearms.com/markiiclassic.htm
Many more at:
http://savagearms.com/rimfire_home.htm0 -
Buy an ANSCHUTZ 22 sporter with a 54 action. You will NEVER, EVER regret it. 0 -
About 2 years ago I bought a new Marlin bolt action with the clip, which cost me about $160 if I recall right. I took it to my gunsmith who worked the trigger down to just under 3 lbs. with no creep, which cost me about $40.00. I've been shooting it open sights but New Years Day I put an old, lonely 4x scope on it. Lots of fun, and the price was right. 0 -
Do you reload?? You can buy a lot of powder, primers, and bullets for the cost of that reworked 10/22. 0 -
Walther KKJ is nice, and shouldnt be too high priced (used of course), Remington 541, either sporter or "T" (heavy barrel) models, one of the newer Browning copies of the Winchester 52. These are all great rifles. If you want to go on the cheaper side, the 10/22 is a good gun, just install a Volquartsen trigger and it will improve it a lot. Takes less than 30 minutes to install, and the instructions are quite simple. Marlin does make some good rifles, but, I have never found one that had a nice trigger unless it was cleaned up by a smith. Even my 2000L (Marlins idea of a target rifle) had a sorry trigger till I had it fixed. Accuracy has always been great on it tho. Aunschutz is excellent, but not inexpensive. Savage makes some good shooting rifles that are reasonably priced. CZ is also great, but again, not cheap. Just my .02 0 -
If you want something similar to your 700, I would suggest a CZ 452, or 453. The 452 has a non adjustable trigger, and the 453 has an adjustable single set trigger(They are awesome-It's like dialing 1-800-WHO'S YOUR DADDY!)). Their accuracy rivals a lot of big names like Anschutz, kimber, and Remington.
On the side of the 10/22, the Volquartsen has the best drop in. In a semi-auto, you will never get as crisp, take up free trigger as your 700.0 -
CZ's website says that sevearal models are adjustable for pull weight, but doesnt mention any other adjustments. I assume you guys have made the adjustments successfully? What is the price tag on the CZ models? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by scaupstopper
I picked up a CZ and snap capped it. It had about 1/2 inch of creep to it. It must have been a different model, or the creep can be adjusted out of it?
What Model Marlin are you guys refering to? I will check them out.
To be clear, I have very little gunsmithing skills, I almost always seek profesional help. That is who sets my large caliber rifle triggers for me.
Thanks for the websites, I will check them out. Fortunately I am in no hurry to make a decision.
Most fellers here like a removable magazine so they get the Model 925 Marlin. But if you want a Mag tube that holds more ammo, then I suggest the model 981T. I believe both rifles could be bought for under $200 ea., depending on dealer.0 -
+1 on the CZ option. Best money you'll ever spend! 0
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