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  • tysonagreen
    I've seen it a couple times and it makes me drool ever time. I wonder if we'll see a semi-auto version any time soon.
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  • savage170
    I want one[^]
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  • dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by tysonagreen
    I've seen it a couple times and it makes me drool ever time. I wonder if we'll see a semi-auto version any time soon.

    Why, the batfe will just declare it a "destructive device" and ban it....
    Remember the street sweeper?.....
    Don
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  • kristov
    That little grenade looks VERY interesting. The shotgun reminds me of a full auto shotgun that former members Judge Colt and Mark Christian (two people sorely missed around here) talked about which was developed by Matthew Atchisson.
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  • mlincoln
    Complete, absolute, unmitigated, toilet-bowl choking crap. I watched the show and it is, like about 50% of what's on the military channel, complete garbage.

    The man says that with the AA-12 loaded with buckshot the shooter can engage targets out to 150 meters. Really. 150 meters with buckshot. Does any person on this board believe that to be true?

    And that silly little grenade? Keep in mind that the Army poured million into the OICW and couldn't get the grenades to do anything, and that was a major reason it failed. But I'm sure that this guy has done what millions of dollars and and hundreds of engineers couldn't.

    And finally, there's that "the enemy is terrified of shotguns" BS. Really. Really. Those people strap themselves with explosives and blow themselves up. Do you honestly think someone on his way to do that would be worried about a shotgun?

    Dear Lord, some people just refuse to think. Futureweapons is just a bunch of people trying to sell weapons the military, and a dumbass host who is just along for the ride.
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  • daveald
    MLINCOLN/ totally agree
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  • chollagardens
    Wasn't some country/group/celeb complaining that shotguns were against the Geneva Convention?
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  • kristov
    quote:Originally posted by mlincoln


    And finally, there's that "the enemy is terrified of shotguns" BS. Really. Really. Those people strap themselves with explosives and blow themselves up. Do you honestly think someone on his way to do that would be worried about a shotgun?


    What are you talking about? We have had numerous posts here telling us that all we need do is state we'll bury their bodies with pig entrails or wrapped in pig skin and they will give up the fight!
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  • Tavis
    THANK YOU Mlincoln! Finally someone I can agree with. I hate that show.
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  • Gregor62
    quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
    Complete, absolute, unmitigated, toilet-bowl choking crap. I watched the show and it is, like about 50% of what's on the military channel, complete garbage.

    The man says that with the AA-12 loaded with buckshot the shooter can engage targets out to 150 meters. Really. 150 meters with buckshot. Does any person on this board believe that to be true?

    And that silly little grenade? Keep in mind that the Army poured million into the OICW and couldn't get the grenades to do anything, and that was a major reason it failed. But I'm sure that this guy has done what millions of dollars and and hundreds of engineers couldn't.

    And finally, there's that "the enemy is terrified of shotguns" BS. Really. Really. Those people strap themselves with explosives and blow themselves up. Do you honestly think someone on his way to do that would be worried about a shotgun?

    Dear Lord, some people just refuse to think. Futureweapons is just a bunch of people trying to sell weapons the military, and a dumbass host who is just along for the ride.


    I agree totally! Sadly the GP will buy into this crap. We could ultimately end up paying for them with our tax dollars.[xx(]
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  • kissgoodnight
    AA12 Tactical Shotgun - Navy Seals Latest Toy

    The AA12 Assault Shotgun is a weapon constructed with heat treated, corrosion resistant, aircraft quality stainless steel. It is gas operated, air cooled and fires from the open bolt. The AA12 is both box magazine and drum fed having a rate of fire 360 rounds per minute. When correctly fired, there is a counter recoil mechanism incorporated in the design of the gun which reduces recoil to a minimum. This automatic shotgun may be fired single shot by releasing the trigger quickly after each round or fully automatic by holding the trigger to the rear without releasing it there are no tools necessary for field maintenance and cleaning of this weapon.

    It best operates without the use of oils or lubricants and may be cleaned with soap and water. Removal of the barrel assembly only requires the use of a 3/16 inch allen wrench, while complete disassembly and assembly requires the use of fingers only. Within the design there is a cone shaped barrel extension which provides 100% positive feed.

    GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS

    -Weight unloaded Approximately 10.5 lbs.
    -Weight w/8rd. Magazine Loaded Approximately 11-1/4 lbs.
    -Weight w/20rd. Magazine Loaded Approximately 13 lbs.
    -Weight of loaded 8rd. Box Magazine 1 lb.
    -Weight of loaded 20rd. Drum Magazine 3 lb.
    -Length of Barrel 19 inches
    -Gauge of Bore 12
    -Boring Barrel Cylinder
    -Chamber for Shell Length 2-3/4 inch standard
    -Operation Full Automatic And Single Shot Using Manipulative Trigger Control
    -Type of Action Full Automatic Gas Operated
    -Type of Firing Mechanism Open Bolt
    -Magazine Detachable Feed Box, Magazine and Drum Ammunition

    - Opacity of Weapon: 8-round Box Magazine; 20- & 32-round Drum Magazine
    -Type of Stock Shoulder Stock w/Pistol Grip and Grip Guard,
    -Right and Left Panels Serve As A Protective Cover.
    -Rate of Fire Approximately 6rds/second or 360rds/minute

    Note: The AA12 Assault Automatic Shotgun is specifically designed for Naval Military use only. Therefore, some principles normally perceived of shotguns designed for sporting use do not apply to this weapon. The AA12 is not a (MACI) military adaptable commercial item.

    DESIGN CRITERIA

    1. Total configuration and construction is based on factors perceived advantageous for a rugged military weapon used throughout the world-specifically, in and around the ocean, seas, rivers, jungles and deserts.
    2. Firing from the open bolt (prevents cook off).

    3. Large and small capacity magazine and drums.
    4. Total construction, corrosion resistance stainless steel and high impact plastics.
    5. Large durable components.
    6. Simple design with minimum working components.
    7. No tools required for field maintenance.
    8. Open manufacturing tolerances to ensure functioning in any operational conditions.
    9. Ability to fire consistently controlled single shots, short burst and full automatic mode. (Without a 3rd position switch necessary).
    10. Minimum recoil directly to the rear.
    11. Non-rising muzzle which retains target acquisition.
    12. Protective cover for all functioning assemblies which serves as a stock and grip for the weapon and protects the user from heat generated from firing.
    13. Sights arranged to facilitate natural point instinctive firing without lowering the shooters head to the weapon.
    14. Requires little or no oils or lubricants except in extremely cold, wet areas to prevent freezing (CLP).
    15. Requires little or no cleaning and can be cleaned with soap and water (Recommended clean and inspect every 2000 rounds).
    16. May be fired wet with magazine filled with water.
    17. Can be fired easily by small stature person.
    18. Can be fired easily using one hand maintaining target engagement.

    19. Tools, no special tool required for 2nd or 3rd echelon maintenance except for one 3/16 inch allen wrench used to remove a barrel binder screw, small hammer and roll pin punches.
    20. Virtually jam free due to design of chamber barrel extension.
    21. Ability to see rounds in drum magazine.

    22. Highly producible due to minimum number of components, having only seven machining operations performed on total components. Small number of weldments. Manufactured using easily obtainable materials. Simple design, easy assembly and disassembly. Total interchangeable components, no final form fit and functioning of components. No final gunsmithing
    23. Safety switch and magazine release location are compatible with other weapons in the system.
    24. Easily stored and carried due to no protruding bolt handles or cocking handles located on side of weapon.
    25. Ability to withstand rough handling without firing when dropped on hard surfaces.
    26. Color coding: the composite panel covers which serves as a stock and handgrip may be obtained in colors black, brown, navy gray, tan, and camouflage.
    27. Ability to easily reload drums and magazines.
    28. Ability to easily reload weapon with loaded magazines in the dark while running. (Why would you have to run from anything when you have this?)
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  • owen219
    I WANT ONE. I WANT ONE, I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if it will shoot deer slugs? Great for those running shots on full auto with 32 round drum.
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  • SCorvers
    I'm with mlincoln on this one. That nerd host grates on me.[xx(]
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