I stole this, thanks tallcharlie
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
We have much discussion on this site about reducing the size of the government, returning to constitutional rule, eliminating or reducing our huge military, eliminating or reducing the admittedly unconstitutional welfare programs, and other similar subjects.
A study of the first seventy years of the republic reveals that there were two checks on the power of the federal government: the states and the Supreme Court.
Recognizing that the Supreme Court was merely a group of five or six political appointees (for life), the surest and most powerful check on federal powers was the states themselves.
The states had two means of stopping excesses by the federal government: nullification and secession.
Today, neither method is legal, and we have seen that the federal government will quickly respond with lethal force to maintain its power. Any state that attempts to either nullify federal legislation or secede will be brutally crushed.
So how do we accomplish any of those goals that we have discussed? How do we reduce the federal bureaucracy How do we reduce the power and prerogatives of the federal government? How do we reduce welfare programs and eliminate entitlements?
tallcharlie posted this in politics, why I dont know it is a very interesting question and not at all political.
I could wear out my keys explaing my thoughts and views, and probably will but I would like to hear from some of you, my friends first.
We have much discussion on this site about reducing the size of the government, returning to constitutional rule, eliminating or reducing our huge military, eliminating or reducing the admittedly unconstitutional welfare programs, and other similar subjects.
A study of the first seventy years of the republic reveals that there were two checks on the power of the federal government: the states and the Supreme Court.
Recognizing that the Supreme Court was merely a group of five or six political appointees (for life), the surest and most powerful check on federal powers was the states themselves.
The states had two means of stopping excesses by the federal government: nullification and secession.
Today, neither method is legal, and we have seen that the federal government will quickly respond with lethal force to maintain its power. Any state that attempts to either nullify federal legislation or secede will be brutally crushed.
So how do we accomplish any of those goals that we have discussed? How do we reduce the federal bureaucracy How do we reduce the power and prerogatives of the federal government? How do we reduce welfare programs and eliminate entitlements?
tallcharlie posted this in politics, why I dont know it is a very interesting question and not at all political.
I could wear out my keys explaing my thoughts and views, and probably will but I would like to hear from some of you, my friends first.
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Probably the only hope is for it to get so bad that the majority cries out for solutions. 0 -
I believe that a repeal of at least the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution would be required, in addition to any other steps that could be taken.
The 16th is self-explanatory in that it directly provides the fuel that feeds the federal monster.
The 17th took away a valuable tool and one of the primary means the States had of checking the federal bureaucracy.
Prior to the 17th, the State Legislature selected those who were Senators. This kept the Senator's beholden to the interests of the state, not the Fed. As it turns out, the Senate is a very large part of the very federal bureaucracy we need to leash/eliminate.
We would have to tackle some SCOTUS rulings, particularly related to the Commerce Clause of the Constitution, if any further progress was to be made. THAT issue is where almost all the federal "wiggle room" comes from reference their intrusive and tyrannical actions against the states and the people.0 -
I think we're gonna hafta start killin' 'em.
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good luck with trying to get politicians to give back rights they have taken from you the people and rights they have given to themselves!..you will need it! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I think we're gonna hafta start killin' 'em.
Doug
lol..
to make a long story short, EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD who understands, cares, and listens to Dr Ron Paul should move to a certain state. That would force a confrontation between one strong and righteous state and the rest of these morons. I personally believe the man is more respecting of God than ANY predecessor and it doesnt even show that my friends is the attribute of equality.
We people who still believe in the principles of our nation need to come together like never before.
There is a great guise of religion to push military action, any time religion is conjunction with military you must question the reasoning. I think most would agree God does not advocate killing. Even an atheist would agree death is the worst it is the end of everything, for them.
Many current leaders avoid or blatantly push their religion, be wary of them. Your beliefs say a lot about you, and so does the way you dance through or around them.
We are in deep trouble my fellow Americans, I am not a doom gloom'est. Just a coherent, adept American and a new daddy, I pray for my boy if nothing else.0 -
no more thoughts?
Pathetic.... no its worse than pathetic...
Do I have to beg for your input? no one else cares?
the ones that replied I kinda knew they would, but some are missing and it makes me wonder why!
EMM where are you!?
rack ops?!
NUNN!!
select fire....
bpost!
believe it or not I ENJOY reading all of your opinions there are too many to list and you know who you are!
what the hell can we do to make this a country of by the people for the people?!
I would suggest Ron Paul but some of you seem to think that is a joke, maybe it is but for christ sakes he is the only one who has named the problems dead on that we face!
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