Gun industry boycott
Why doesn't the gun industry follow Barrett's lead and refuse to deal with any state with restrictive gun laws?
After all, if gun bans prevent gun crimes, then why should the cops need guns at all?
In my opinion, we as gun owners can only affect change and stop this tide of gun control nonsense dead in its tracks by telling manufacturers that unless they support us, we will not support them.
Voting doesn't work: politicians are never held accountable for their votes and they know it.
The only way anything will change is if we use the one resource that anyone and everyone can and does understand: our money.
If our money stops going to manufacturers like H&K and Ruger who believe there should be a difference between "military" firearms and "responsible civilian" firearms, they will get the hint that the 2nd Amendment is not about differentiating between who is civilian and who is military, but rather about who is willing to be a victim and who is not.
I stopped buying H&K years ago. I let them know that their decision to not market their 416 gas piston uppers to civilians was insulting to my intelligence and betrayed an elitism in their thinking I could not tolerate. The same goes for Kimber - they'll sell guns to California state law enforcement by the thousands, but raise nary a peep in protest when the California legislature proposes measures that would drastically curtail the 2nd Amendment.
Politicans do not follow votes - they follow business. And if business begins to hurt, they will begin to listen.
So I say we make them hurt.
[NOTE: I'm not proposing or advocating boycotting or supporting any manufacturer in particular other than the ones mentioned above. I'm not a schill for any manufacturer or 2nd Amendment interest group - I just figured this approach made the most sense since gun owners have been screwed consistently by both Democrats and Republicans no matter how we voted]
After all, if gun bans prevent gun crimes, then why should the cops need guns at all?
In my opinion, we as gun owners can only affect change and stop this tide of gun control nonsense dead in its tracks by telling manufacturers that unless they support us, we will not support them.
Voting doesn't work: politicians are never held accountable for their votes and they know it.
The only way anything will change is if we use the one resource that anyone and everyone can and does understand: our money.
If our money stops going to manufacturers like H&K and Ruger who believe there should be a difference between "military" firearms and "responsible civilian" firearms, they will get the hint that the 2nd Amendment is not about differentiating between who is civilian and who is military, but rather about who is willing to be a victim and who is not.
I stopped buying H&K years ago. I let them know that their decision to not market their 416 gas piston uppers to civilians was insulting to my intelligence and betrayed an elitism in their thinking I could not tolerate. The same goes for Kimber - they'll sell guns to California state law enforcement by the thousands, but raise nary a peep in protest when the California legislature proposes measures that would drastically curtail the 2nd Amendment.
Politicans do not follow votes - they follow business. And if business begins to hurt, they will begin to listen.
So I say we make them hurt.
[NOTE: I'm not proposing or advocating boycotting or supporting any manufacturer in particular other than the ones mentioned above. I'm not a schill for any manufacturer or 2nd Amendment interest group - I just figured this approach made the most sense since gun owners have been screwed consistently by both Democrats and Republicans no matter how we voted]
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Can add S&W to that list too.
Jon0 -
The sad part is there are so few American gun makers left that are actually owned by Americans. The rest are owned by some multinational conglomerate. The companies that are more about $$ than about protecting the 2nd Amendment know that their bread is buttered by large LE and military contracts both here and abroad. We do have the right to buy from who we feel is supporting us & the 2nd--and at the same time a company does have the right to market and sell to whom they feel will benefit them best--kinda sad to say-wish folks that owned the companies would come together on the same page and be supportive of the 2nd. 0 -
I bought my last new Kimber when they came out with the Kimber II line forcing evryone to accept California's safety regulations ...
I haven't bought a new HK since I had warranty problems with an SL80 -
You are dreaming. Eat any funny mushrooms lately?
JM0 -
I own 1 HK pistol, I will never buy another...
It is a fine firearm, but I was unaware of their anti American practice of not selling most of their product line to civilians..
SCREW YOU HK!0 -
That's a good idea EMM.
quote:Originally posted by Jon0322
Can add S&W to that list too.
Jon
Why? That Smith&Wesson thing was cleared up long ago.0 -
now take that thought and apply it to government and taxes. the entire country will come to a halt. lets make it happen.quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
Why doesn't the gun industry follow Barrett's lead and refuse to deal with any state with restrictive gun laws?
After all, if gun bans prevent gun crimes, then why should the cops need guns at all?
In my opinion, we as gun owners can only affect change and stop this tide of gun control nonsense dead in its tracks by telling manufacturers that unless they support us, we will not support them.
Voting doesn't work: politicians are never held accountable for their votes and they know it.
The only way anything will change is if we use the one resource that anyone and everyone can and does understand: our money.
If our money stops going to manufacturers like H&K and Ruger who believe there should be a difference between "military" firearms and "responsible civilian" firearms, they will get the hint that the 2nd Amendment is not about differentiating between who is civilian and who is military, but rather about who is willing to be a victim and who is not.
I stopped buying H&K years ago. I let them know that their decision to not market their 416 gas piston uppers to civilians was insulting to my intelligence and betrayed an elitism in their thinking I could not tolerate. The same goes for Kimber - they'll sell guns to California state law enforcement by the thousands, but raise nary a peep in protest when the California legislature proposes measures that would drastically curtail the 2nd Amendment.
Politicans do not follow votes - they follow business. And if business begins to hurt, they will begin to listen.
So I say we make them hurt.
[NOTE: I'm not proposing or advocating boycotting or supporting any manufacturer in particular other than the ones mentioned above. I'm not a schill for any manufacturer or 2nd Amendment interest group - I just figured this approach made the most sense since gun owners have been screwed consistently by both Democrats and Republicans no matter how we voted]0 -
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Originally posted by Jon0322
Can add S&W to that list too.
Jon
Why? That Smith&Wesson thing was cleared up long ago.
Why?! Because Ruger "talked the talk" S&W "walked the walk". I personally have zero problems with either company myself, but if you would not buy Ruger, yet buy S&W, you are just contradicting yourself(and actually, it would be worse to buy S&W if you are going to do this).
Jon0 -
You are misinformed.
Doug0 -
Read that sti is pulling out of Califorina no sales to police depts they said they will not do the miocro stamp 0 -
quote:You are misinformed.
Doug
How so?(I am not saying that I am not misimformed, but from what I have read and the way I have understood it, that is my opinion. There is a possibility that I am missing something or not understanding something correctly though.)
Doug, basically what I am saying is that I don't want to(and don't like to argue), but I am up for a civilized debate or a teaching lesson if you will.[:D] From some of your other posts I have a lot of respect for you and your wisdom and am willing to listen.
Jon0
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