Am I a wus?
Hey y'all,
I was out sighting in the Win. M-94 today and really got a chance to fire her more than a couple rounds. 21 rds to be precise. I was not using a recoil pad because everyone I've talked to says the 94's recoil is "mild!" Well, I feel like trading in my shoulder right now.
I was using Federal ammunition.
Can anyone else whos shot the Model 94 confirm this strong recoil? I have a M-12 12ga Win coming in soon and can't wait to fire that (expecting a heck of a lot of recoil) but I didn't expect this from the Win .30/30...
I was out sighting in the Win. M-94 today and really got a chance to fire her more than a couple rounds. 21 rds to be precise. I was not using a recoil pad because everyone I've talked to says the 94's recoil is "mild!" Well, I feel like trading in my shoulder right now.
I was using Federal ammunition.Can anyone else whos shot the Model 94 confirm this strong recoil? I have a M-12 12ga Win coming in soon and can't wait to fire that (expecting a heck of a lot of recoil) but I didn't expect this from the Win .30/30...
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quote:Originally posted by thallman
Stevenrayspeck,
You said something about form, here are the only picture I have of me shooting a rifle (the .22 Henry Golden Boy)
They are not great, but you get the idea.. I think in the second photo my cheek is to far away and obviously had my foot proped up on the RR tie which I wouldn't do shooting anything more powerful that than .22!
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff55/justgumpit/3500687298_ORIG.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff55/justgumpit/3500687418_ORIG.jpg
The second pic you are definetly leaning WAY to far back. If you did that with the 94 it would probably put you on the ground[:0]
First pic is hard to tell, But i think you need to lean into the shot just a little bit more.
Its hard to actualy lean into your shot when your in the stance that you were in the first pic, But with practice it can be done.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tacking1
kinda a hijack here but anyway.
I am 5'11" 260 and when I read your description about LOP I measured.: 15 1/4"
because I am (how do I say this?) fat, I have a bad habit of not getting my shotgun all the wat to my actual shoulder, but end up with it between my bicep and shoulder. This hinders my ability to shoot a port to starboard crossing bird. I try to offset this habit by making sure my LOP is a bit shorter than what would constitute a perfect fit. Over several bazillion shots I have compensated for this mentality with practice, but still catch myself not mounting correctly when shooting european.
Do any of you shotgunners have this problem?
Im built like you, 5'11 250lbs
It takes a real kick to knock me around.0 -
I have heard that one too, "The 30-30 has mild recoil."
Well the ones I have shot didn't. I have shot the Marlin and the Winchester and both had stout recoil.
My main hunting rifle is a 30-06 and I swear the little lever action carbine has more kick.0 -
The first 30-30 I ever shot was a Marlin 336.
I had just finished shooting a 450 Marlin off the bench, so I was surprised at the relatively mild recoil of the 30-30.
Relative being the key word, here.0 -
I have never shot a 94 and never shot a 30-30 so I don't entirely feel qualified to answer.
Nonetheless getting used to the recoil is the key. I shoot a lot of military rifles in 30-06, 8mm, etc. They kick pretty well. But I shoot them so much I got used to them. Now fellow range members will see me and say, "Wow, that really kicked your shoulder back, did it hurt?" And I am stumped- I didn't even feel it recoil.
Point- practice, practice, practice. A 30/30 isn't going to generate much recoil- I'd guess 20 pounds at most even with a light gun/heavy bullet combo- which isn't that much, it's just pressure in an area not used to it. You'll soon not even notice it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
I have heard that one too, "The 30-30 has mild recoil."
Well the ones I have shot didn't. I have shot the Marlin and the Winchester and both had stout recoil.
My main hunting rifle is a 30-06 and I swear the little lever action carbine has more kick.
Hey Allen, Did you read all of my posts in this thread[?]0 -
quote:Originally posted by thallman
Hey y'all,
I was out sighting in the Win. M-94 today and really got a chance to fire her more than a couple rounds. 21 rds to be precise. I was not using a recoil pad because everyone I've talked to says the 94's recoil is "mild!" Well, I feel like trading in my shoulder right now. I was using Federal ammunition.
Can anyone else whos shot the Model 94 confirm this strong recoil? I have a M-12 12ga Win coming in soon and can't wait to fire that (expecting a heck of a lot of recoil) but I didn't expect this from the Win .30/30...
Geez!
What would happen to you after shooting a M-44 Mosin Nagant with no recoil pad?[:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]0 -
I too have some issues with recoil . The short Mausers in 8mm pound me to jelly if I don't use a recoil pad. The one I like is "Beartooth", it has adjustable pad thickness and gives me (and my long arms) correct LOP with the added 3/4". 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jonk
I don't entirely feel qualified to answer.
This is never a hinderance to conversation here!0 -
thallman - One more thing. I noticed that you said you were shooting in the prone position. The prone position is the one position that will beat you up the most! Try shooting it in the sitting position (like you are with the Henry). I am sure that you will feel a difference in the recoil.
The LimbSaver slip on recoil pad will definately reduce recoil. They are great pads.0 -
quote:Am I a wus?
That is what I have heard.
Like Nunn, I find the recoil of a 94 fairly stout. Not like a 7 mag but not like a .243 either.0 -
Shooting bigger loads and higher calibers is way over rated.
I was lurking in the Vets forum and came across an posting from a guy that said his men were carrying 20 gauge shotguns. I hate 12 gauges myself since I see no reason to put up with that kind of kick. I also shoot 9mm for the same reason instead of .45. I might be considered a wuss by someone who is erectilely challenged but I am more interested in hitting my target than the load I blow.0 -
ive shot one a few times
about the same as a 308 non-semiauto to me
about 20 rounds is my limit then i take a break and go back at it0 -
"Hey Allen, Did you read all of my posts in this thread"
Well I read your first one Stevenray. You said you were shooting at least 1,000 rounds per day. If you shot 2 rounds per minute, that is 120 per hour, you would have to shoot for 9 hours to achieve this.
I don't believe that you shot that much.
If you were reloading you spent, what, 8 hours every night reloading?
If you bought your ammo at 50 cents per shot, you spent over $500 per day on ammo.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
"Hey Allen, Did you read all of my posts in this thread"
Well I read your first one Stevenray. You said you were shooting at least 1,000 rounds per day. If you shot 2 rounds per minute, that is 120 per hour, you would have to shoot for 9 hours to achieve this.
I don't believe that you shot that much.
It was more like 7 hours.
I worked part time back then and the boss i worked for happened to be the manager of the shooting range.
I would work till noon and then me and my fellow compatition buddies would go out to the range and shoot Sporting clays/ Skeet/ Wobble skeet/ trap/ wobble trap/ and 5 stand until about 7:00 or 8:00 Pm.
I was part of the youth shooting team at that time and ALL of our shells were donated by the gun club.
My team won the state compatition three years in a row[8D]
I was one year to old to go to Nationals, But my team has also won Nationals three years in a row also[8D]
One of my shooting buddies was actualy being looked at by olympic recruiters a couple of years ago, But unfortunately a tragic accident killed his olympic hopes[V]
If you don't believe me, thats fine...... But back then i WAS shooting 1,000 rounds every day. Now days i work full time, Go shooting every couple of weeks, and enter a few of the smaller events when i can.0 -
Thallman, I have a confession to make. I am a wus. I prefer light calibers, and do not care much for recoil. I also like light guns, which returns us to light calibers.
My wife is not a wus. She can shoot her a .300 win mag all day, while my shoulder hurts after a box of rounds.
FIT IS EVERYTHING. I agree with the earlier discussion about adding an inch to the stock. Also about the longer barrel to add weight.
I had an early (1962) Rem 700 in .30-06 once. Loved the gun: pretty, and easy to carry with its short bbl. It kicked like a mule, and I eventually got rid of it. Later, someone mentioned that Remington was notorious for using its reamers too long, and that some rifles tended to leave the factory slightly under-caliber -- with the result that their recoil was much worse. I wonder if that was my problem, but most likely I'm just a wus. Went to .270, and now I am at 7-08. Next, I'll be hunting elk with a .223 (Not!).0 -
OK, Stevenray, that is a plausible explanation for shooting over 1,000 rounds per day.
It does make sense that the recoil of the little lever action carbine bothered me because the rifle was too small for me. I am 6-3 and 250.
Moot point now as I have big rifles that do fit me and there is a good chance I will never shoot another 30-30.0 -
Looking at both pics it appears the gun is centered more on the arm (soft tissue and on top of shoulder socket) and not quite high enough. The butt should "cup" the shoulder almost between shoulder socket, collar bone, and arm pit. This gives you a line of site from cheek to eye to target.
Also, to borrow a quote from Field & Stream: the best way to get used to shooting a gun with a hard recoil is to shoot a gun with hard recoil (over and over again)!0 -
In 2005 I dislocated my right shoulder on Nov. 14th day before opening day. I have to include how I did it, turning a screw with a dime of all things!
The following morning I had to fire my .308 Model 99 twice to hit a buck
about 180 yards out. That day I was a wus for certain! Hurts just thinking about it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
quote:Am I a wus?
Yes
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quote:Am I a wus?
I dunno.
What does your Boyfriend think?0 -
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
quote:Am I a wus?
I dunno.
What does your Boyfriend think?
Man.
Is it cold in here, or is it just you?
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My cousin had a Stevens 12 gauge double and I had a Fox 12; same barrel lengths and weight. Essentially the same guns, especially with the same ammo. We both felt that the Fox kicked noticeably harder than the Stevens. I can recall at least 3 other people that thought the recoil was heavy. I guess I was used to it. But, at the same time I had a 94 30-30 that kicked harder than the Fox.
Lots of wussies around.0 -
Yer plinkin with a high caliber rifle. its fun but it gets old quick, especially with no ear protection. [;)] 0 -
IMO you're not a wus....Yet. I suppose anything can take some getting used to.
I myself was shooting my fathers 8mm 98k, M-1 Garand, and 12ga shotguns from about the age of 8. Dad is a Korean War 1st Marine Chosin Reservior vet and didn't put up w/much whineing. So I never complained about recoil because I WANTED to shoot them. And over the years I got to where the recoil of any gun I've fired doesn't bother me. Dad always said if you're concentrating on the target, you won't feel it. I believed him and it came true.[:D] In fact, I often test fire milsurps by holding them w/one hand at arms length.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
quote:Originally posted by RugerNiner
quote:Am I a wus?
I dunno.
What does your Boyfriend think?
Man.
Is it cold in here, or is it just you?
[:D]
how did YOU know what the boyfriend was thinking?0
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