Super Bowl Massacre averted at last minute
I don't know if this has been posted already, but glad to see the guy couldn't go thru with his plan.
http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=69edd4af-f085-4705-a786-2ef7a859e99f
A distraught Tempe man was within sight of the Super Bowl on Sunday with an assault rifle, but a change of heart kept him from unloading 200 rounds of ammunition on the crowd, court records show.
Kurt William Havelock, 35, turned himself in Sunday to Tempe police and the FBI at the urging of family and confessed his plan, which he hatched in retaliation for the Tempe City Council rejecting a liquor license application for a restaurant and bar he owns.
According to court records, Havelock is charged with mailing threatening communications in the mailing of eight copies of a "manifesto" explaining the planned massacre.
"I will test the theory that bullets speak louder than words ... I will slay your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent," Havelock wrote. "No one destroys my dream. No one."
Magistrate Judge Edward V. Ross said in a hearing in U.S. District Court on Tuesday: "I haven't read more chilling words, and I've been doing this a long time." Ross found Havelock was a danger to the public and ordered him held without bail.
Havelock on Sunday mailed copies of the manifesto intended for friends and media from a post office at 59th and Peoria avenues in Glendale, but authorities were able to intercept them.
In the letters he says his family has been attacked and the futures of his children have been destroyed.
In October, Havelock was before the Tempe City Council to get approval for a liquor license application for a restaurant called The Haunted Castle, a Halloween-theme bar where horror-theme bands and actors could gather to promote themselves, according to city records.
Liquor licenses are typically rubber-stamped by city councils, whose votes are only advisory.
The State Liquor Board makes the final decision.
Council members, however, got word from a blog written by Havelock that the business would be called Drunkenstein's and questioned him about it.
Havelock said there would be a sign with that name but would be only one corner of the business at 6463 S. Rural Road.
The council voted 6-1 to deny the application, which is still pending before the liquor board.
"Alas, this all boils down to an econopolitical confrontation. I cannot outvote, outspend, outtax, or outincarcerate my enemies," Havelock wrote in the manifesto. "But for a brief moment I can outgun them."
According to court testimony by FBI Special Agent Philip Thorlin and Havelock's father, Frank Havelock, he bought an AR-15 assault rifle on Jan. 29 from Scottsdale Gun Club.
Thorlin described the rifle as the U.S. military's weapon of choice.
Havelock began Sunday by going back to the gun club for target practice, but there was a private function and he couldn't get in. Besides the rifle, Havelock was carrying at the time six 30-round magazines and 20 loose rounds.
Thorlin said Havelock's original destination was Desert Ridge Marketplace in northeast Phoenix. It's unclear according to court documents why Havelock changed his mind about Desert Ridge and headed for Glendale instead.
He drove to different post offices in the West Valley to obtain the envelopes and postage for his copies of the manifesto and mailed them before he went to the parking lot of Jobing.com Arena, which can be seen from University of Phoenix Stadium, where a host of activities were happening before the 4:30 p.m. kickoff.
"He waited about a minute and decided he couldn't do this," Thorlin said.
Havelock then called his fiancee and met his parents at his Tempe condominium.
"He was very upset, he was sobbing hysterically," Frank Havelock said. "He said, `I've done something terribly, terribly wrong.'#8197;"
Frank Havelock believed his son was talking about financial problems he was having with his restaurant, which the elder Havelock learned about for only the first time on Sunday, but then he confessed about the letters and the rifle.
Frank Havelock said he went to his son's car and moved the weapon and ammo to his car and persuaded him to turn himself into Tempe police.
When authorities searched Havelock's car, they found another typed letter to police with a handwritten note at the bottom that read: "do not resuscitate."
Havelock has no criminal history, and a mental health evaluation conducted at his arrest found "no mental defects" that would warrant a commitment to a mental hospital, Thorlin said.
Frank Havelock said he's never had any problems with his son.
Neighbors who live next door said Havelock lived with his fianc?e and two small children and two large dogs. Martin Trump and Danny Q. Rivera said Havelock kept to himself and had a variety of cars, including a white hearse with a vanity plate that read "drtnap."
They were shocked to learn of Havelock's plan to use an assault rifle on crowds at the Super Bowl.
"The Patriots versus the Giants - do you see the ironic parallel? How many dollars will you lose? And all because you took my right to work, to own a business, from me," Havelock wrote in his manifesto.
To read more stories by the East Valley Tribune, click here.
http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=69edd4af-f085-4705-a786-2ef7a859e99f
A distraught Tempe man was within sight of the Super Bowl on Sunday with an assault rifle, but a change of heart kept him from unloading 200 rounds of ammunition on the crowd, court records show.
Kurt William Havelock, 35, turned himself in Sunday to Tempe police and the FBI at the urging of family and confessed his plan, which he hatched in retaliation for the Tempe City Council rejecting a liquor license application for a restaurant and bar he owns.
According to court records, Havelock is charged with mailing threatening communications in the mailing of eight copies of a "manifesto" explaining the planned massacre.
"I will test the theory that bullets speak louder than words ... I will slay your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent," Havelock wrote. "No one destroys my dream. No one."
Magistrate Judge Edward V. Ross said in a hearing in U.S. District Court on Tuesday: "I haven't read more chilling words, and I've been doing this a long time." Ross found Havelock was a danger to the public and ordered him held without bail.
Havelock on Sunday mailed copies of the manifesto intended for friends and media from a post office at 59th and Peoria avenues in Glendale, but authorities were able to intercept them.
In the letters he says his family has been attacked and the futures of his children have been destroyed.
In October, Havelock was before the Tempe City Council to get approval for a liquor license application for a restaurant called The Haunted Castle, a Halloween-theme bar where horror-theme bands and actors could gather to promote themselves, according to city records.
Liquor licenses are typically rubber-stamped by city councils, whose votes are only advisory.
The State Liquor Board makes the final decision.
Council members, however, got word from a blog written by Havelock that the business would be called Drunkenstein's and questioned him about it.
Havelock said there would be a sign with that name but would be only one corner of the business at 6463 S. Rural Road.
The council voted 6-1 to deny the application, which is still pending before the liquor board.
"Alas, this all boils down to an econopolitical confrontation. I cannot outvote, outspend, outtax, or outincarcerate my enemies," Havelock wrote in the manifesto. "But for a brief moment I can outgun them."
According to court testimony by FBI Special Agent Philip Thorlin and Havelock's father, Frank Havelock, he bought an AR-15 assault rifle on Jan. 29 from Scottsdale Gun Club.
Thorlin described the rifle as the U.S. military's weapon of choice.
Havelock began Sunday by going back to the gun club for target practice, but there was a private function and he couldn't get in. Besides the rifle, Havelock was carrying at the time six 30-round magazines and 20 loose rounds.
Thorlin said Havelock's original destination was Desert Ridge Marketplace in northeast Phoenix. It's unclear according to court documents why Havelock changed his mind about Desert Ridge and headed for Glendale instead.
He drove to different post offices in the West Valley to obtain the envelopes and postage for his copies of the manifesto and mailed them before he went to the parking lot of Jobing.com Arena, which can be seen from University of Phoenix Stadium, where a host of activities were happening before the 4:30 p.m. kickoff.
"He waited about a minute and decided he couldn't do this," Thorlin said.
Havelock then called his fiancee and met his parents at his Tempe condominium.
"He was very upset, he was sobbing hysterically," Frank Havelock said. "He said, `I've done something terribly, terribly wrong.'#8197;"
Frank Havelock believed his son was talking about financial problems he was having with his restaurant, which the elder Havelock learned about for only the first time on Sunday, but then he confessed about the letters and the rifle.
Frank Havelock said he went to his son's car and moved the weapon and ammo to his car and persuaded him to turn himself into Tempe police.
When authorities searched Havelock's car, they found another typed letter to police with a handwritten note at the bottom that read: "do not resuscitate."
Havelock has no criminal history, and a mental health evaluation conducted at his arrest found "no mental defects" that would warrant a commitment to a mental hospital, Thorlin said.
Frank Havelock said he's never had any problems with his son.
Neighbors who live next door said Havelock lived with his fianc?e and two small children and two large dogs. Martin Trump and Danny Q. Rivera said Havelock kept to himself and had a variety of cars, including a white hearse with a vanity plate that read "drtnap."
They were shocked to learn of Havelock's plan to use an assault rifle on crowds at the Super Bowl.
"The Patriots versus the Giants - do you see the ironic parallel? How many dollars will you lose? And all because you took my right to work, to own a business, from me," Havelock wrote in his manifesto.
To read more stories by the East Valley Tribune, click here.
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Close call. Glad he changed his mind. 0 -
Hmmm... let me see if I understand this correctly:
1. Government denies me a liquor license.
2. Perfect example of government tyranny that requires me to deny the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness to several hundred innocents, because bullets will speak louder than words.0 -
scary! There is a scene like that in the novel "The Mercenary". 0 -
"I will test the theory that bullets speak louder than words ... I will slay your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent," Havelock wrote. "No one destroys my dream. No one."
-- WHO THE #### WRITE THIS STUFF?!?! Moreoever, WHO THINKS LIKE THIS?!
'I will kill your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent.'
Over a liquor license.
Changed his mind at the last minute. Perhaps God does work in mysterious ways.0 -
quote:Originally posted by meunke
"I will test the theory that bullets speak louder than words ... I will slay your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent," Havelock wrote. "No one destroys my dream. No one."
-- WHO THE #### WRITE THIS STUFF?!?! Moreoever, WHO THINKS LIKE THIS?!
'I will kill your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent.'
Over a liquor license.
Changed his mind at the last minute. Perhaps God does work in mysterious ways.
So does penicilian. I'm sure he'll need some where he's going.0 -
quote:He drove to different post offices in the West Valley to obtain the envelopes and postage for his copies of the manifesto and mailed them before he went to the parking lot of Jobing.com Arena,
I think this calls for a 10 day waiting (cooling down) period and backgrownd check for mailing letters. Oh wait.... It already takes mail 10 days to get to it's destination.[:D]0 -
bondai? 0 -
That could have been bad....real bad
I just don't understand the appeal of gunning down innocent people0 -
forget the terriost well do our selfs in before long.[V] 0 -
How much time is he facing? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
How much time is he facing?
I doubt it'll be much0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
How much time is he facing?
I doubt it'll be much
That's what I'm afraid of.[B)]0 -
Don't ever mess with a mans liquor.[:0] 0 -
This is the future folks, when the next mad man/woman decides to get their ten minutes of fame at OUR expense, it's going to be bad. I'm not a doomsdayist (if that's a word) but I truly believe the time is coming when a real terrorist is going to use a setting like the Super Bowl or DNC or GOP national convention or something like that to slaughter as many as he can with an AR on fully auto or some other auto loading weapon and it's going to be VERY UGLY.
When people throw babies out the window of moving cars, write the kind of stuff this guy wrote, walk into a courtroom or council chamber and open fire, etc etc etc, there are very SICK folks walking among us and you see them, eat with them, worship with them, work with them, play with them, etc., but like every ticking time bomb, when the clock strikes zero in their head, it's going to go BOOM !!!!![xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]0 -
He used the mail to send his threats. That makes it a federal crime.
I bet the feds have some good jail time in store for this psycho, they might pull out the new "terrorism" laws.0 -
Bet he does not get his liquor license now. 0 -
I believe he needs to have one last ride in the back of his white hearse.
I'll even chip in for the gas.0 -
quote:Originally posted by mschexna
I don't know if this has been posted already, but glad to see the guy couldn't go thru with his plan.
http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=69edd4af-f085-4705-a786-2ef7a859e99f
A distraught Tempe man was within sight of the Super Bowl on Sunday with an assault rifle, but a change of heart kept him from unloading 200 rounds of ammunition on the crowd, court records show.
Kurt William Havelock, 35, turned himself in Sunday to Tempe police and the FBI at the urging of family and confessed his plan, which he hatched in retaliation for the Tempe City Council rejecting a liquor license application for a restaurant and bar he owns.
According to court records, Havelock is charged with mailing threatening communications in the mailing of eight copies of a "manifesto" explaining the planned massacre.
"I will test the theory that bullets speak louder than words ... I will slay your children. I will shed the blood of the innocent," Havelock wrote. "No one destroys my dream. No one."
Magistrate Judge Edward V. Ross said in a hearing in U.S. District Court on Tuesday: "I haven't read more chilling words, and I've been doing this a long time." Ross found Havelock was a danger to the public and ordered him held without bail.
Havelock on Sunday mailed copies of the manifesto intended for friends and media from a post office at 59th and Peoria avenues in Glendale, but authorities were able to intercept them.
In the letters he says his family has been attacked and the futures of his children have been destroyed.
In October, Havelock was before the Tempe City Council to get approval for a liquor license application for a restaurant called The Haunted Castle, a Halloween-theme bar where horror-theme bands and actors could gather to promote themselves, according to city records.
Liquor licenses are typically rubber-stamped by city councils, whose votes are only advisory.
The State Liquor Board makes the final decision.
Council members, however, got word from a blog written by Havelock that the business would be called Drunkenstein's and questioned him about it.
Havelock said there would be a sign with that name but would be only one corner of the business at 6463 S. Rural Road.
The council voted 6-1 to deny the application, which is still pending before the liquor board.
"Alas, this all boils down to an econopolitical confrontation. I cannot outvote, outspend, outtax, or outincarcerate my enemies," Havelock wrote in the manifesto. "But for a brief moment I can outgun them."
According to court testimony by FBI Special Agent Philip Thorlin and Havelock's father, Frank Havelock, he bought an AR-15 assault rifle on Jan. 29 from Scottsdale Gun Club.
Thorlin described the rifle as the U.S. military's weapon of choice.
Havelock began Sunday by going back to the gun club for target practice, but there was a private function and he couldn't get in. Besides the rifle, Havelock was carrying at the time six 30-round magazines and 20 loose rounds.
Thorlin said Havelock's original destination was Desert Ridge Marketplace in northeast Phoenix. It's unclear according to court documents why Havelock changed his mind about Desert Ridge and headed for Glendale instead.
He drove to different post offices in the West Valley to obtain the envelopes and postage for his copies of the manifesto and mailed them before he went to the parking lot of Jobing.com Arena, which can be seen from University of Phoenix Stadium, where a host of activities were happening before the 4:30 p.m. kickoff.
"He waited about a minute and decided he couldn't do this," Thorlin said.
Havelock then called his fiancee and met his parents at his Tempe condominium.
"He was very upset, he was sobbing hysterically," Frank Havelock said. "He said, `I've done something terribly, terribly wrong.'#8197;"
Frank Havelock believed his son was talking about financial problems he was having with his restaurant, which the elder Havelock learned about for only the first time on Sunday, but then he confessed about the letters and the rifle.
Frank Havelock said he went to his son's car and moved the weapon and ammo to his car and persuaded him to turn himself into Tempe police.
When authorities searched Havelock's car, they found another typed letter to police with a handwritten note at the bottom that read: "do not resuscitate."
Havelock has no criminal history, and a mental health evaluation conducted at his arrest found "no mental defects" that would warrant a commitment to a mental hospital, Thorlin said.
Frank Havelock said he's never had any problems with his son.
Neighbors who live next door said Havelock lived with his fianc?e and two small children and two large dogs. Martin Trump and Danny Q. Rivera said Havelock kept to himself and had a variety of cars, including a white hearse with a vanity plate that read "drtnap."
They were shocked to learn of Havelock's plan to use an assault rifle on crowds at the Super Bowl.
"The Patriots versus the Giants - do you see the ironic parallel? How many dollars will you lose? And all because you took my right to work, to own a business, from me," Havelock wrote in his manifesto.
To read more stories by the East Valley Tribune, click here.
In red above. That of course is a lie. A civilian AR-15 will only fire one round for one trigger pull. The military wants and has the military version of the AR-15 (the M-16, etc) which will either fire 3 rounds for one trigger pull or will fire non-stop until it empties the magazine with one trigger pull.
If one of our soldiers accidently was issued a civilan AR-15, he would turn it in to the armory and want an M-16 replacement. So, the AR-15 is not the choice of the military.0 -
Okay, come on... raise your hands: who here's upset that it wasn't a Muslim who was stopped because the CIA tortured someone and discovered the plan in time to stop it?[}:)] 0 -
im sure glad he didnt go through with it...if he had and say from the 200 shots he killed 75 and woulded another 75 to 100, i think that would have been the finish for every semi aout rifle in the entire country...i reckon you would have had the lot banned...and all because of 1 pshyco...just like happened here in `96...believe me, it only takes one mad meanie to ruin everything for you. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
im sure glad he didnt go through with it...if he had and say from the 200 shots he killed 75 and woulded another 75 to 100...I'm somewhat familiar with security procedures and resources in place at very high profile events such as this and feel you're way overestimating the number of casualties he'd have been able to create.
From a PR stanpoint even one victim would've been a disaster for us, but he would've never got the chance to fire even close to his full load of ammo.
quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
How much time is he facing?For a few reasons this will probably end up in federal court and I'm not up to speed on their procedures, but I'd say he's looking at more than just a charge of making threats.
His stated intent was to commit multiple murders. Under most state's laws he could be charged with criminal attempt to commit murder because a person can think about something all they want, but taking action that amounts to "more than mere preparation" crosses the line into criminal activity.
Under individual state's laws the penalty for attempting to commit an offense is usually one degree lower than if the offense had been completed.
As an example, in my state committing multiple murders in a continuing act is a capital offense, meaning criminal attempt to commit mass murder could get him life.0 -
You know what's really interesting here? When a fan runs out on the field at a sporting event, the TV cameras are always turned away, and the announcers don't even talk about what's going on. They do this because if they show the fan or talk about what's happened, that's only going to encourage more people to do it.
But if some total loser grabs a gun and kills some people, it is splashed all over the news for weeks, and we're shocked, shocked when other people follow suit.
Makes one think, doesn't it?0 -
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