Good Trade..?
Got this "black gun" with 500 rds. of ammo for a ruger red label, never had an ar-15 type gun, is this a decent one? says bushmaster xm15-e2s on it. Dont know anything else about it except he said its never been shot.


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I heard they are a knock off of the hi point. Don 0 -
Not a bad deal with the ammo...the other guy might have come out a little ahead $$$ wise, but after the next election, you may be WAY ahead. 0 -
wish I could find 500rds for 60.00 now days [V][V]
Nice rifle I love mine but Id love a red label also [:p][:D]0 -
I had $800 in the red label, I figured the ar was probably worth $700. I guess now I am the master of the bush? 0 -
Just a little tip, on the ammo, i just paid 40 bucks for 100 rounds of 5.56
Last week i paid 7.50+tax a box.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
I had $800 in the red label, I figured the ar was probably worth $700. I guess now I am the master of the bush?
I could sell you a new one for somewhere in the neighborhood of $800-$815. You did not do bad at all if you were selling the Red Label for $800.0 -
Considering the current political outlook I think you made a very good choice. Rights are far more important than money!!! Frankly, I probably would have made that trade too.... 0 -
With the ammo, and the collapsing stock, not a bad trade at all. [:D]
I have the same model, and have not had ANY problems with it.
Mine does not have the collapsible stock, have thought about putting one on it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
With the ammo, and the collapsing stock, not a bad trade at all. [:D]
I have the same model, and have not had ANY problems with it.
Mine does not have the collapsible stock, have thought about putting one on it.
This thing looks like its collapsible but it doesnt collapse. Whats the deal?0 -
This thing looks like its collapsible but it doesnt collapse. Whats the deal?
most likely the stock was made during the ban and is pinned , if you look at it you should see a roll pin going all the way thru the latch, you can take the pin out but i don't think it has the latch holes in it to work right as a collapsible stock0 -
quote:Originally posted by gskyhawk
This thing looks like its collapsible but it doesnt collapse. Whats the deal?
most likely the stock was made during the ban and is pinned , if you look at it you should see a roll pin going all the way thru the latch, you can take the pin out but i don't think it has the latch holes in it to work right as a collapsible stock
If it doesn't, you could probably drill them yourself. It looks like it has a flash suppressor/muzzle break...so wouldn't it be a preban rifle???0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
Not a bad deal with the ammo...the other guy might have come out a little ahead $$$ wise, but after the next election, you may be WAY ahead.
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The gun is fine but that tile floor is really da bomb! 0 -
At least you were able to get rid of a ruger.
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id say you made out pretty good.
and if it does have a faux collapsible stock, buy a real collapsible stock and put it on. then its preban for the next ban.0 -
Always a crowd pleaser[:D] 0 -
Preban? It has a flash supressor/ brake. and stock doesnt colapse, whats that mean? barrel says 8mp 1/9...I dont know about these black guns.[:o)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
Preban? It has a flash supressor/ brake. and stock doesnt colapse, whats that mean? barrel says 8mp 1/9...I dont know about these black guns.[:o)]
I dont think your barrel says 8 MP, i think it says B MP. My 16 inch Bushy Upper barrel says B MP, the B looks like an 8.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
The gun is fine but that tile floor is really da bomb!
Except for the shoddy grout-job.[;)]
And, i don't think it's "tile" per-say. Looks like "sealed COQUINA" to me.Wich is better. More like Marble.0 -
The 1/9 is the barrel twist.
Here is a site that might give you some info.
There is a disassembly view that is pretty good.
http://www.bushmaster.com/faqs.asp0 -
I would say you got a good deal..... the AR is a heck of a lot of fun... but you will now go through a ton of ammo.... hoe you reload... if not start. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
The gun is fine but that tile floor is really da bomb!
Except for the shoddy grout-job.[;)]
And, i don't think it's "tile" per-say. Looks like "sealed COQUINA" to me.Wich is better. More like Marble.
Its 18" travertine tiles. I ask a gun question and get housekeeping answers.[:X] I love this place. [:D]0 -
one question...is that WOLF ammo???? 0 -
Ammo is Barnaul ammunition russia, whatever that means. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
Ammo is Barnaul ammunition russia, whatever that means.
That means you don't want to shoot it through your Bushmaster.
Those fake collapsable stocks are missing the springs for the adjustment toggle so when you punch the pin out you will need to put a spring in it.
If it is a post ban configuation then you flash hider is probably permanantly attached with a pin or soilder.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP Originally posted by cartod
If it is a post ban configuation then you flash hider is probably permanantly attached with a pin or soilder.
+1 I have a bushmaster with a muzz.break on it loud as hell but would have to have a smith drill out the weld and pins to install a flash on it and reweld snice is has a 14" bbl [B)]
or buy another bbl.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
quote:Originally posted by cartod
Ammo is Barnaul ammunition russia, whatever that means.
That means you don't want to shoot it through your Bushmaster.Those fake collapsable stocks are missing the springs for the adjustment toggle so when you punch the pin out you will need to put a spring in it.
If it is a post ban configuation then you flash hider is probably permanantly attached with a pin or soilder.
Why?0 -
Cartrod - Looks like you picked up another money pit. You can swap out the top ends with so many different configurations and "extras" you will soon go broke[:D]. Get rid of it now before you get a second job just to get gear for it. If you decide to keep her just get a CAR Stock, a flat top top end with barrel (length and type of your choice). What I've been told about Bushmaster is it's very good compared to likes of Oly-Arms. There was a saying that went with the reason (which eludes me just now).
I'd sell off the ammo and buy a colapsible stock like you want (then re-sell the old stock[:D]). Be kind and recycle.0 -
quote:Originally posted by cartod
quote:Originally posted by MVP
quote:Originally posted by cartod
Ammo is Barnaul ammunition russia, whatever that means.
That means you don't want to shoot it through your Bushmaster.Those fake collapsable stocks are missing the springs for the adjustment toggle so when you punch the pin out you will need to put a spring in it.
If it is a post ban configuation then you flash hider is probably permanantly attached with a pin or soilder.
Why?
Steel case ammo is not good in the tighter tolerances of an AR and Barnaul is some of the dirtiest burning powder and combine the dirty powder with steel case and you will have problems with your Bushmaster operating right before that case is gone.
Some people like the cheap ammo and use it in their AR but from my experience it is not worth it.
Sell the ammo to someone who has a mini 14 and buy some good stuff to run through the AR.
If I had that ammo I would trade it off 2 for 1 if I could find someone willing to make a trade with quality ammo.
If that were my rifle I would sell that stock and put something else on it like a magpul or something.
You can convert the pinned "collapzable" so that it will work but it is not worth the trouble when people in California will pay you for the pinned stock what it will cost you for a real one.
It is legal in California to have the Pinned Collapsable stock but not a true collapsable.0
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