A little info, i'm sure some of U know..
but maybe not all of you...
Who is Barack Obama?
Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice for president.
snopes.com says it's factual. Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 yearsold, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience, nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!
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Who is Barack Obama?
Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice for president.
snopes.com says it's factual. Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 yearsold, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience, nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!
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I know all about Hussein. I live in Illinois. 0 -
stop right there !!! i got to the part that said he attended a muslim school in indonesia and he has been exposed to the influence of "radical muslims"...australians know a lot about the "radical " muslims in indonesia...they are tied into osama bin laden in a big way!!if he has been contaminated by them, then may god have mercy on your country if he becomes the next president!! you will start loosing your religious rights almost immediately, and your other rights not long after!!...i will not believe for one minute that he has turned his back on the extremist vievs he would have been exposed to!!call me stupid for saying this, i dont care, i dont have to live there, but, i think you may find out you have a fifth colomnist in your midst!!theres no way he would have turned his back on how he was brought up!!no doubt he will bring in the major changes slowly and he will be sneaky about it, but it will be change for the worst when it happens!...
thanks for posting this fishkiller..it was eye opening!and it has possible serious implications for the whole world...and i dont think that is being paranoid or an over statement.0 -
It seems to hes dominating the black vote simply because hes black, the same way Shrillary gets the womens vote because shes is a woman, i saw ont he news they were in a hair salon asking black women who they were voting for, they said hillary, and when asked why? They simply stated, Because shes a woman. How these stupid misguided idiots can vote simply on the fact that shes a woman, or Hes black is unkown to me. 0 -
quote:How these stupid misguided idiots can vote simply on the fact that shes a woman, or Hes black is unkown to me.
The exact same thing applies to people that vote only front-running Republican...OR Democrat.0 -
I need another source that he used the Koran instead of a Bible. 0 -
According to nearly all of the sites googled, he is NOT a practicing muslim, and never has been.. and neither was his father.
From just one site..
http://www.nndb.com/people/208/000055043/
[1] Kapiolani Medical Center.
[2] Member of the United Church of Christ since the 1980s. Obama's father, while born into a Muslim family, had become atheist by the time he met Obama's mother, the secular Ann Dunham. Despite propaganda being distributed to the contrary, Barack Obama, the Senator, was never a practicing Muslim, and never attended extremist or Wahabbist madrassas.
Rumors have long been in circulation that he used the Koran instead of the Bible....again, not true according to most of the sites googled...
Obama sworn in on his Bible
An anonymous e-mail says Barack Obama took the oath of office for the U.S. Senate on a Koran, the holy book of Islam. We thought it would be odd if that were true, since Obama is a Christian. In fact, it is wrong.
The e-mail also spells the book's name "Kuran," though usually it is spelled Koran or Quran.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/238/
Two press reports from Obama's swearing-in ceremony in January 2005 mention specifically that Obama took the oath of office by placing his hand on his own copy of the Bible. The Barack Obama campaign also confirmed that it was a Bible and that the book belonged to Obama. Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as president of the Senate, administered the oath.
After being raised outside of any particular faith tradition, Obama became a Christian in his mid 20s and is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. (Obama gave what are arguably his most extended remarks on his faith at the "Call to Renewal" religious conference in 2006; read the speech here.)
We suspect this false claim was inspired by the 2007 swearing-in of Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., an American convert to Islam and the first Muslim elected to Congress. Ellison used a Koran that once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, borrowing the rare book from the Library of Congress.
There are pics of his swearing in ceremony, showing the bible....not the koran...
THere are going to be rumors floating around about ALL of the candidates, not just one...MOst ppl are too quick to believe what they hear and often what they read without doing any reseach of their own, without asking questions.......0 -
quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
According to nearly all of the sites googled, he is NOT a practicing muslim, and never has been.. and neither was his father.
From just one site..
http://www.nndb.com/people/208/000055043/
[1] Kapiolani Medical Center.
[2] Member of the United Church of Christ since the 1980s. Obama's father, while born into a Muslim family, had become atheist by the time he met Obama's mother, the secular Ann Dunham. Despite propaganda being distributed to the contrary, Barack Obama, the Senator, was never a practicing Muslim, and never attended extremist or Wahabbist madrassas.
Rumors have long been in circulation that he used the Koran instead of the Bible....again, not true according to most of the sites googled...
Obama sworn in on his Bible
An anonymous e-mail says Barack Obama took the oath of office for the U.S. Senate on a Koran, the holy book of Islam. We thought it would be odd if that were true, since Obama is a Christian. In fact, it is wrong.
The e-mail also spells the book's name "Kuran," though usually it is spelled Koran or Quran.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/238/
Two press reports from Obama's swearing-in ceremony in January 2005 mention specifically that Obama took the oath of office by placing his hand on his own copy of the Bible. The Barack Obama campaign also confirmed that it was a Bible and that the book belonged to Obama. Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as president of the Senate, administered the oath.
After being raised outside of any particular faith tradition, Obama became a Christian in his mid 20s and is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. (Obama gave what are arguably his most extended remarks on his faith at the "Call to Renewal" religious conference in 2006; read the speech here.)
We suspect this false claim was inspired by the 2007 swearing-in of Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., an American convert to Islam and the first Muslim elected to Congress. Ellison used a Koran that once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, borrowing the rare book from the Library of Congress.
There are pics of his swearing in ceremony, showing the bible....not the koran...
THere are going to be rumors floating around about ALL of the candidates, not just one...MOst ppl are too quick to believe what they hear and often what they read without doing any reseach of their own, without asking questions.......
BR,
You are right,
There is a lot to be said about the "church" he attends
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm
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Well! thats a fine mess we are about to enter into, some fine choices we have for 08[:0][V] 0 -
I BET THERE IS A 666 SOMEWERE 0 -
just the name should tell you something[V][V] 0 -
I do not support Obabma but dismissing a candidate based on religious reasons shakes the foundations of this country. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
I do not support Obabma but dismissing a candidate based on religious reasons shakes the foundations of this country.
Religon no, beliefs yes.
I wonder what would be said if one of the other candidates supported a church with a similar message supporting WASPs.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
I do not support Obabma but dismissing a candidate based on religious reasons shakes the foundations of this country.
Not when that religion wants to see the downfall of the western world!!0 -
The only one whose picture was taken "swearing in" on the koran was Ralph Ellison. 0 -
OMG....... Nobody told me he was......
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jimgibbon.com/2007/01/03/ellison-to-be-sworn-in-using-thomas-jeffersons-koran.
HMMMM Seems one of our forefathers kept a Koran handy.
Keith Ellison was the Congressman elected by the mulsim pupulation in his state..
the Number 666 has be revised to 616. and never really did refer to Satan. Numbers were used in the bible to hide the identity of whom they were righting about to prevent retribution for writing bad things about them..
What ever happened to Freedom of Religion as gaurenteed by the constitution? Or is it that Freedom only extends to the White Protestant Christian?
The Christians are all over anyone that does not have the same religious beliefs they have..[:(] Just see how they look a Romney..[:(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
jimgibbon.com/2007/01/03/ellison-to-be-sworn-in-using-thomas-jeffersons-koran.
HMMMM Seems one of our forefathers kept a Koran handy.Keith Ellison was the Congressman elected by the mulsim pupulation in his state..
the Number 666 has be revised to 616. and never really did refer to Satan. Numbers were used in the bible to hide the identity of whom they were righting about to prevent retribution for writing bad things about them..
What ever happened to Freedom of Religion as gaurenteed by the constitution? Or is it that Freedom only extends to the White Protestant Christian?
The Christians are all over anyone that does not have the same religious beliefs they have..[:(] Just see how they look a Romney..[:(]
Do you know why he kept a koran?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
jimgibbon.com/2007/01/03/ellison-to-be-sworn-in-using-thomas-jeffersons-koran.
HMMMM Seems one of our forefathers kept a Koran handy.Keith Ellison was the Congressman elected by the mulsim pupulation in his state..
the Number 666 has be revised to 616. and never really did refer to Satan. Numbers were used in the bible to hide the identity of whom they were righting about to prevent retribution for writing bad things about them..
What ever happened to Freedom of Religion as gaurenteed by the constitution? Or is it that Freedom only extends to the White Protestant Christian?
The Christians are all over anyone that does not have the same religious beliefs they have..[:(] Just see how they look a Romney..[:(]
Do you know why he kept a koran?
Toilet Paper?0 -
Jefferson was a book collector..
Jefferson, the nation's third president and a Renaissance man who collected books about many different topics and in many different languages, sold the Quran to Congress in 1815 as part of a collection.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
Jefferson was a book collector..
Jefferson, the nation's third president and a Renaissance man who collected books about many different topics and in many different languages, sold the Quran to Congress in 1815 as part of a collection.
He studied the koran to make war on the muslim barbary pirates.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/jefferson.asp0 -
I have a copy of the koran.
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maybe he is the ANTICHRIST makes me start to think [?][?][?] 0 -
All the words we use that are from Arabic, are transliterations that use phonetic spellings...thus the "Misspellings" 0 -
im sorry someone show me the light cause im in the dark here.
our main threat for now is Muslim.
and were trying to elect one to lead us.
What am I missing[?]0 -
quote:Originally posted by CHEVELLE427
im sorry someone show me the light cause im in the dark here.
our main threat for now is Muslim.
and were trying to elect one to lead us.
What am I missing[?]
[:D][:D][:D] You are dead on:
The below information regarding the black separatist values that OBAMA'S church promotes is common knowledge, Fox News Sean Hannity also reported on this same issue.
http://howardwasright.com/index.php/site/more/458/
Wednesday, February 21, 2007
Obamination
Demercrats item by Erik Rush
How many Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The question is rhetorical, of course. The answer is that such a candidate wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected dog catcher (apologies to America's animal rescue and public safety personnel) let alone President, because that candidate would be instantly branded a racist, among the most vile and frightening of white supremacists.
And those holding the branding irons would be 100% right.
Yet, in the "About" section of the U.S. Senate website for Barack Obama, Democratic senator from Illinois and contender for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States, it states that Obama and his family "live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ."
So.?
Well, to say that the Trinity United Church of Christ (http://www.tucc.org)
is afrocentric in the extreme would be a gross understatement. It's not simply afrocentric, it's African-centric. In fact, one could argue that this organization worships things African to a far greater degree than they do Christ, and gives the impression of being a separatist "church" in the same vein as do certain supremacist "white brethren" churches - or even Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.
Shocking? An overstatement? An overreaction?
One can see for oneself on the Trinity United Church website, which is replete with confirmation of what I present here. What follows is an excerpt from their Mission Statement:
"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian. Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black
Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and
Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value
System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."
Sound familiar? Of course it is, since it's identical to the 12-point list at the beginning of this column - the one from the theoretical white supremacist candidate's church; the only difference is the substitution of the word "Black" for "White."
Trinity United Church of Christ's congregation also claims to hold to a "10-point Vision" which is similarly afrocentric, or if you will, separatist. Again, like the Nation of Islam, a white separatist church or the Branch Davidians, Trinity United more resembles a cult than a church. Only this one has as one of its most prominent members a serious contender for the White House.
And George W. Bush's born-again Christian status scares people?
These revelations, of course shed all the light we need on Obama's inscrutability; since before he announced his candidacy, both the Right and Left have commented on the lack of information vis-?-vis just who Barack Obama is and what he's about.
From The Chicago Tribune, February 06, 2007, Column: Against Middleclassness? by Rich Lowry. "Vallmer Jordan, a church member who helped draft the precepts, said they were designed to empower the black community and counter a value system imposed by whites. `The big question mark was racism,' he said. `Black disempowerment was an integral part of that historical value system. It became increasingly apparent to me that we black people had not developed our own value system . . . to help us overcome all we knew we had to battle.'"
"A value system imposed by whites." Is Jordan speaking of the value system that kept families together and promoted morality, industry and integrity, or the one imposed by liberal dependency pimps since the Civil Rights Movement?
True enough that many blacks did abandon values; again, this was due to the corruption of the black clergy by white socialists and their black foremen. Trinity United seems to have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Gravitation toward an Africanized "year-round Kwanzaa"-based pseudo-Christianity seems less of a solution than returning to the moral and social conservatism Blacks held prior to the aforementioned socialists gaining their stranglehold in the black community.
So is Obama seeking to be our first black president, or our first stealth black nationalist president? You see, were he a run-of-the-mill insincere Christian of convenience like Bill Clinton, Obama might belong to a run-of-the-mill, lukewarm, large nondescript church. But he doesn't. He belongs to a church which is (as I indicated before) blatantly afrocentric and even suggests the supremacy of Africa's descendants in America.
Granted that the Left will have no qualms about this highly questionable affiliation, but what about all of the American swing voters to whom Obama has built broad appeal by presenting himself as sort of a generic, open-minded moderate Democrat (as Bill Clinton also did, by the way)? Are they going to go for a candidate whose heart is actually closer to that of a refined Black Panther?
Trinity United clearly embraces things African above things American. The content of their website makes this undeniably clear. Aside from this tack being divisive, separatist and calls into question its adherents' identification as Americans, if they're looking for values, they - and Obama - would be better served by looking to modern political conservatives and traditional Christianity than retrograde African precepts and the Democrat Party.
Obama's affiliation with this church, if I must call it that, should be as alarming to the American voter as a Republican candidate for president belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ. Any argument against this assertion is politically-correct delusion, reverse discrimination and a hypocrisy - a very dangerous one.
Posted by Erik Rush on 02/21 at 07:21 AM
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quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
stop right there !!! i got to the part that said he attended a muslim school in indonesia and he has been exposed to the influence of "radical muslims"...australians know a lot about the "radical " muslims in indonesia...they are tied into osama bin laden in a big way!!if he has been contaminated by them, then may god have mercy on your country if he becomes the next president!! you will start loosing your religious rights almost immediately, and your other rights not long after!!...i will not believe for one minute that he has turned his back on the extremist vievs he would have been exposed to!!call me stupid for saying this, i dont care, i dont have to live there, but, i think you may find out you have a fifth colomnist in your midst!!theres no way he would have turned his back on how he was brought up!!no doubt he will bring in the major changes slowly and he will be sneaky about it, but it will be change for the worst when it happens!...
thanks for posting this fishkiller..it was eye opening!and it has possible serious implications for the whole world...and i dont think that is being paranoid or an over statement.
It was sent to mi in an email, from my wife.I thought i knew "ALL ABOUT" Obama, until i read it.
I know what you are saying, you truly believe. I believe it too. And it scares the CRAP out of me ..0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I need another source that he used the Koran instead of a Bible.
I "SNOPED" it Capt. they make no mention of it being false. Although, i find it hard to believe, Congress would allow anyone taking Public Office, to use anything but the Bible...0 -
Fishkiller: It has happened.. Keith Ellison (congressman).. Sworn in on the Koran..
jimgibbon.com/2007/01/03/ellison-to-be-sworn-in-using-thomas-jeffersons-koran.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
I have a copy of the koran.
Doug
As do i Doug. I also have a copy of the "KAMA SUTRA"[^]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
Fishkiller: It has happened.. Keith Ellison (congressman).. Sworn in on the Koran..
jimgibbon.com/2007/01/03/ellison-to-be-sworn-in-using-thomas-jeffersons-koran.
I have no problem believing that. Yet i believe, he too, should be viewed with great scrutiny....0
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