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  • LesWVa
    The reason that I ask is one of my DD's was singing a song.
    It went something like, "maybe she an angle sent here from heaven to make sure that you are doing your best".

    Wasn't Jesus Christ conceived out of wed lock? I do not recall ever reading or hearing anyone say anything about Mary being married to God nor was she married when she became pregnant.

    Was she?
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  • frankcastle13
    That's too bad. He was good in The Patriot.
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  • HandgunHTR52
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    Heath Ledger dead of drug overdose...

    http://www.wnbc.com/entertainment/15113586/detail.html


    "Oscar-nominated actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan residence in what might be a drug-related death, police said."

    Why so quick to condemn?

    Clouder..



    Not only that, but the bottle of pills that were found in the room just happened to be his prescription for sleeping pills. It could have been any number of things, but being "drug-related" sells better.
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  • p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    a sin is a sin regardless of whatever else you do in your life. a sin is a sin regardless of what other people do in their lives.


    There was a time when it was illegal to sin in the United States. You got branded, flogged, or put into stocks. Fortunately, more intelligent people prevailed and that BS stopped.
    Too bad there are no civil rights in Iran, sin is still illegal there. But how do you define "false gods"? Seems a little redundant.[xx(]
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  • KSUmarksman
    I thought Brokeback Mountain II: the fur traders
    starred Halle Berry and Jessica Alba [8D]
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  • 1911a1-fan
    fathered children out of wedlock[:0][:0], wow that's unheard of i wonder why they just didn't have abortions
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    Heath Ledger dead of drug overdose...

    http://www.wnbc.com/entertainment/15113586/detail.html


    "Oscar-nominated actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan residence in what might be a drug-related death, police said."

    Why so quick to condemn?

    Clouder..

    Because that's what the news is reporting. ODs aren't always on purpose, but the man recently split with the mother of his baby and he had a few other problems and was found with a bottle of spilled sleeping pills next to him.

    You do the math.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by HandgunHTR52
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
    Heath Ledger dead of drug overdose...

    http://www.wnbc.com/entertainment/15113586/detail.html


    "Oscar-nominated actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan residence in what might be a drug-related death, police said."

    Why so quick to condemn?

    Clouder..



    Not only that, but the bottle of pills that were found in the room just happened to be his prescription for sleeping pills. It could have been any number of things, but being "drug-related" sells better.
    Not to play semantics, but on what planet are prescription drugs not drugs?

    You can OD on prescription drugs just like you can OD on street narcotics.
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  • kimberkid
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    I assume that in the after-life God will judge us all but in the mean time I believe humans are supposed to judge and other humans as far as acceptable conduct and behavior on earth.
    I have judged people who create children out of wedlock to be sinners.
    So your beliefs have no basis except what you've decided them to be ... how convenient.

    I would hope your position on Civil Rights has a bit firmer basis ... not just what you think they should be.
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  • Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    he fathered childern out of wedlock. thankfully he wont be able to committ anymore child abuse.


    You guys do realize this is AlbertLum/OJMayo/Runforrest right?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Civil Rights Posted - 01/22/2008 : 6:31:27 PM
    he fathered childern out of wedlock. thankfully he wont be able to committ anymore child abuse.



    Child abuse? as in???


    Civil Rights...

    You talk about sinning and yet you wont tell your boss you screwed up?...

    ...


    quote:Civil Rights
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    Posted - 01/09/2008 : 5:22:37 PM

    I screwed up at work and need a solution to my problem ASAP. I cant tell my boss though. This is what happened....I work on the clothing industry. I was in charge of placing a big order of clothes and seeing that they were made correctly. However, I made a mistake and then the mistake was made bigger by the people who manufactured the clothes.
    They made the clothing with the wrong label that denotes the size. Each piece of clothing comes with two labels inside the garment. One is a nylon label that is 1/2" x 1/2" that is sown into the piece. The other label is a paper label that is much smaller and only contains the size (XS,S,M,L). The problem is the paper size label is mixed up. I cant send the clothing back to India and the retail stores wont take the clothes being mislabeled.
    My boss doesnt know about the problem yet because I wanted to exhause all my options first.
    I was thinking I could cut out the small paper label and super glue in the correct size.
    I cant have anyone here sew in the new labels due to the construction of the garment and the time and cost of doing it.





    Another thread of yours, you stated you were in an arguement with your aunt about a girl who had a baby or abortion (cant remember which) but you told eveyone before they replied to be careful on judging Jamie Lynn


    quote:I know for many of you this might be a touch subject, and it is. I just dont like the fact that in America we have to critize everyone else and at the same time deny or ignore the skeletons in our own closet.
    If my pointing out some statistics about abortion makes you want to direct anger at me, let me point out I have never had an abortion, my daughters have never had an abortion (too young) and I have never been the cause of an abortion. (know for absolute certain?)
    Before you pass judgement on Jamie Lynn Spears, can you honestly say the same thing about yourself ?


    which side of the arguement are you on?...dont judge? or judge?...quote:believe we should all judge others on earth. Are you suggesting that we stop "judging" murders or child molestors ? I judge their behavior as wrong. On earth we are supposed to judge others and make standards of behavior. I assume that in the after-life God will judge us all but in the mean time I believe humans are supposed to judge and other humans as far as acceptable conduct and behavior on earth.
    I have judged people who create children out of wedlock to be sinners.
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  • spanielsells
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    he fathered childern out of wedlock. thankfully he wont be able to committ anymore child abuse.


    You guys do realize this is AlbertLum/OJMayo/Runforrest right?
    Sounds a lot more like USAPatriot to me. But, yeah, that's why I've been ignoring him.
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  • allen griggs
    It is MOST unusual for a healthy looking 28 year old young man to keel over dead from heart attack, stroke, etc.
    On the other hand, rock star/actor types have been known to indulge in drugs, and even to die of overdoses.
    A bottle of pills was found nearby, it is reasonable to speculate that he died of and OD, especially when this is what the police say.
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  • allen griggs
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/01/23/2008-01-23_untitled__3ledger23m-1.html?page=1

    Moody movie star Heath Ledger was found dead in his luxury SoHo loft Tuesday, naked in a bedroom filled with sleeping pills and anti-depressants.

    A masseuse and a housekeeper discovered the "Brokeback Mountain" hunk, who moved into the sprawling Broome St. pad after his split from actress Michelle Williams in September, police said.

    "He was found on the floor, naked, facedown at the foot of the bed," Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne said. "We are investigating the possibility of an overdose. ... There were pills within the vicinity of the bed."

    The two women called 911, and FDNY paramedics spent a half hour trying to revive the 28-year-old leading man before declaring him dead.

    An autopsy is set for today to determine what killed the 2006 Oscar nominee, a critics' darling who recently wrapped his role as the Joker in the latest "Batman" movie, "The Dark Knight."

    Friends told investigators that Williams booted Ledger from the Brooklyn home they shared with their 2-year-old daughter, Matilda, because of a drug problem that only got worse after he left, a police source said.

    Police said no suicide note was found in the $24,000-a-month rental apartment and no foul play was suspected. In addition to the sleeping pills, cops found bottles of the anti-anxiety drug Valium and the anti-depressant Zoloft in the home, a source said.

    Ledger's father, Kim, standing with his weeping ex-wife, Sally, and daughter Kate in Australia, called his son's death "very tragic, untimely and accidental," and said he was found "peacefully asleep."

    Williams, who met Ledger on the "Brokeback" set, was flying to New York from Sweden last night. Her father, Larry Williams, told Australian media she was devastated.

    "The saddest thing is his daughter whom he just loved dearly," he said.

    "He adored his daughter Matilda, and when Michelle called it quits, he missed Matilda so much that he was thrown into a deep, dark depression," a source told London's Daily Mail. "Heath was living in New York to be close to his daughter."

    As word of Ledger's death spread, fans and gawkers converged outside the SoHo building. By the time his body was wheeled out in a black bag to a medical examiner's van, a crowd of about 800 was snapping pictures on cell phones.

    In Boerum Hill, Brooklyn, fans placed flowers near the Hoyt St. townhouse where he lived until the September breakup. "It's sad. Twenty-eight years old. I can't believe it," said Lewis Spada, a Court St. fishmonger who counted Ledger as a customer.


    Fellow stars were stunned by the loss of a rising talent who eschewed the Hollywood high life for Brownstone Brooklyn and passed up blockbuster roles for meatier parts.

    Off-Broadway actor Jonathan Zarin, 25, an acquaintance of Ledger's for three years, said he heard the star was depressed.

    "I guess he was battling with some demons," he said.

    Ledger's uncle Neil Bell insisted the actor would not kill himself.

    "Someone doesn't take their life when they make an appointment for a massage," the uncle said. "Ever since he was a boy, his dream was to be an actor. The last thing he'd do is throw his dream away."

    John Travolta remembered the actor at Tuesday's "Australia Plays Broadway" event at Lincoln Center, saying that Ledger was one of his favorite actors and that he would "give back every award and nomination I have if it would bring Heath back."

    Since his breakup with Williams, Ledger had been working, and playing, hard.

    He was in his hometown of Perth for the new year, a visit he called "an incredibly therapeutic and a much-needed trip home." Last weekend he was in London for work on Terry Gilliam's "TheImaginarium of Doctor Parnassus."

    A regular at Manhattan hot spots like the Beatrice Inn, he had been linked to model Helena Christensen, Lindsay Lohan and model-actress Gemma Ward in recent weeks.

    When he moved to SoHo, he took over a luxurious loft that boasts cast-iron columns, exposed brick, a tin ceiling, a fireplace and a private elevator.

    But neighbors said the place was only partly furnished and that his bed was just a mattress on the floor.

    "When I did see him he was with his daughter," building super Tamba Mossa, 32, said. "You could tell he loved the little girl very much."

    Mossa said the housekeeper had keys to the apartment and let herself in.

    She told police she heard Ledger snoring in the bedroom about 12:30 p.m., a source said.

    At 2:45 p.m., the massage therapist showed up, and when Ledger didn't emerge for his 3 p.m. appointment, the women checked on him.

    After she called 911, the housekeeper spoke to Mossa, telling him: "Something has happened."

    "I wasn't expecting to hear he was dead," the super said. "It was shocking."

    In the past, Ledger had spoken about taking the sleep aid Ambien when working on a difficult project and complained that it didn't do the trick.

    He sounded a melancholy note in recent interviews, telling one reporter the grind of location shoots was "heartbreaking" and "really lonely."

    He also spoke of the joys of fatherhood.

    "Having a child changes every aspect of your life - for the better, of course," he said in November. "I feel, in a sense, ready to die because you are living on in your child."

    With Jo Piazza, Patrick Huguenin, Ethan Rouen, Kerry Burke, Adam Nichols, Jotham Sederstrom, George Rush and JoAnne Wasserman

    tconnor@nydailynews.com
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  • Permanently deleted user
    The coroners report was on the news a little while ago and the results on this guys death were "Inconclusive". so they still dont know..

    As far as Fathering a child without the benifit of marriage no big deal, lots of people want children without being married, Marriage is an institution created by man to make it moraly legal in the eyes of society. Wonder what would have happened to the human race if Marriage was a prerequisite to having children before marriage was invented??
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  • Captplaid
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    he fathered childern out of wedlock. thankfully he wont be able to committ anymore child abuse.


    You guys do realize this is AlbertLum/OJMayo/Runforrest right?


    Yeah, I got a chuckle from his comments.

    Time for a new computer yet?
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  • mrseatle
    but there were two
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  • kimberkid
    quote:Originally posted by Civil Rights
    he fathered childern out of wedlock.



    Didn't Adam father children "out of wedlock" with Eve?
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