When That Day Arrives ....
... the day we all dread, but know is coming either sooner or later. The day when the government has totally ignored the rights and freedoms of citizens by suspending the Constitution and/or systematically seizing our weaponss. There are a few things we should consider, think about and realize.
The officer and enlisted corps of our United States Armed Forces along with many LEOs will do EXACTLY what they are told to do and when to do it in a "national emergency". In the name of "stabilizing the situation" and bringing calm to the communities, these empty uniforms will systematically take your rights and freedoms.
You WILL then be faced with harsh choices: Will you give up peacefully and become a slave? Or will you confront your brothers, your sisters, sons, daughters, friends and foes alike who are tasked with "restoring peace"? What do your liberties, freedoms and rights truly mean to you?
Will you be prepared to fight your kin-folk?
- If your answer is YES, then realize that the government will have a sure-fire way to ensure that the resisting minority numbers stay scattered and disorganized, thus much easier to crush. All avenues of communication and means of travel will be either cut off altogether or limited with 'monitoring' by the goons dressed in black. Expect this prior to the "rounding up" of weapon caches that are in the homes of proud gun owners/defenders of freedoms. It will become extremely difficult to readily organize and "march" our way back to freedom.
That's why I think it wise for the 'Patriots' of today to reach out, find those in our communities, cities, counties and towns that will stand beside us in that perilous time. Form a 'silent coalition' and commit to the rebellion which will be surely needed, when that dire time comes. And ... develop foolproof ways of communicating with one another on a routine basis without modern-day technology (celphones, internet, etc.) so when the time comes, you'll be able to organize with very little hinderence.
I'm leading the coalition in the area where I live and I'm surprised at how many people have committed to the 'cause'. Of course, not everyone can be trusted, so be careful of who you 'invite'. And differentiating between those who commit as opposed to those who will actually participate won't be known until its time to fire the first shot. I won't expect a huge groundswell, but the more you solicit, the better the odds of increasing the amount of 'participants'.
- If your answer is NO, then we will try to free you from your self-inflicted bondage in hopes of having freedoms restored. But just remember, it was YOU, the lily-livered, selfishly coward sissyass, that would NOT stand and defend that which God had so blessed you with. We won't hold that against you nor will we require a "thank you".
Just some food for thought and if you have any other suggestions or insight, please post them. We need all the ideas possible as 'dooms-day' could be just around the corner.
The officer and enlisted corps of our United States Armed Forces along with many LEOs will do EXACTLY what they are told to do and when to do it in a "national emergency". In the name of "stabilizing the situation" and bringing calm to the communities, these empty uniforms will systematically take your rights and freedoms.
You WILL then be faced with harsh choices: Will you give up peacefully and become a slave? Or will you confront your brothers, your sisters, sons, daughters, friends and foes alike who are tasked with "restoring peace"? What do your liberties, freedoms and rights truly mean to you?
Will you be prepared to fight your kin-folk?
- If your answer is YES, then realize that the government will have a sure-fire way to ensure that the resisting minority numbers stay scattered and disorganized, thus much easier to crush. All avenues of communication and means of travel will be either cut off altogether or limited with 'monitoring' by the goons dressed in black. Expect this prior to the "rounding up" of weapon caches that are in the homes of proud gun owners/defenders of freedoms. It will become extremely difficult to readily organize and "march" our way back to freedom.
That's why I think it wise for the 'Patriots' of today to reach out, find those in our communities, cities, counties and towns that will stand beside us in that perilous time. Form a 'silent coalition' and commit to the rebellion which will be surely needed, when that dire time comes. And ... develop foolproof ways of communicating with one another on a routine basis without modern-day technology (celphones, internet, etc.) so when the time comes, you'll be able to organize with very little hinderence.
I'm leading the coalition in the area where I live and I'm surprised at how many people have committed to the 'cause'. Of course, not everyone can be trusted, so be careful of who you 'invite'. And differentiating between those who commit as opposed to those who will actually participate won't be known until its time to fire the first shot. I won't expect a huge groundswell, but the more you solicit, the better the odds of increasing the amount of 'participants'.
- If your answer is NO, then we will try to free you from your self-inflicted bondage in hopes of having freedoms restored. But just remember, it was YOU, the lily-livered, selfishly coward sissyass, that would NOT stand and defend that which God had so blessed you with. We won't hold that against you nor will we require a "thank you".
Just some food for thought and if you have any other suggestions or insight, please post them. We need all the ideas possible as 'dooms-day' could be just around the corner.
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Hehehhehhhhh......
The bogey man is every where.
Trouble is..this bogey man is real, with big teeth.
Ah well...a man lives...till he dies. He dies ONCE.
THE coward dies a thousand deaths every day.
The best a man can do is push the envelope as far as he dares..and let the chips fall where they may.0 -
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
I smell the man. This guy likes to try and goad people on so that they type things that can later be used against them. RS is BATF or worse, BRADY. I do not trust him. If he is LE he is not on our side.
maybe si, maybe no.
Seems to be kinda passive agressive and a few other things. not in and of its self bad. But my nose is itching, I gotta go.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
It's just too hot and humid to be outside right now. So....
I can Not be as brief as Highball so bare with me. "Dangerous T" makes some valid observation but none-the-less exposes himself as a "servant of authority". He has obviously been exposed to a "Communist Government" and didn't like it. He and his family chose to live under that government without resistance and take what was offered as their daily ration of existence. When the system failed and before its revival he ran while he could. He came here looking for a true sense of freedom and the American dream. He admits that he has fought to preserve our "Democracy" while others shirk their duty with an apathy he fully recognizes from experience. He had one choice in a dictatorial tyrant under a Communist Regime. Here we have the opportunity to pick, between two chosen candidates, just who will be our next tyrant. The left (Democrats) promote the socialist agenda while the right (Republicans) promotes the fascist agenda. Either way we end up with a tyrant. But, under the guise of Democracy, we get to choose which tyrant we prefer. Personally I think the fascist will win because the powers behind the scene know that communism kills capitalism. The problem we face this cycle is that both candidates we have been presented with could go either way. "T" has, again, freely chosen to bow to authority but, this time, he is supporting the fascist regime since he recognizes the left agenda of socialism. However, he is unable to deny that ingrained indoctrination that "Government" must have authority over the populace.
He is right about immigration. Our policy should be reformed to include ONLY political prisoners who were jailed for resisting tyranny. We should no longer accept refuges that just come here for a better opportunity yet bring their socialist/fascist ideals with them. Those choosing to support the government agenda until things turn sour and then run again!! What `T" fails to realize is that this IS the last bastion of freedom on the globe. As corrupt as our tyrant(s) may be and the fact that we teeter on the edge of a fascist state, we still have an ingrained desire and the means to resist by any means. Although this isn't a common belief among the majority, the numbers grow daily with the advances in restricting our "Rights" and threats of further tyranny. By his own admission when that time comes, rather than resist authority and defend his REASON FOR COMING HERE IN THE PLACE, he will run again and once again abandon any hope of freedom and prosperity for temporary security. Canada has already (for the most part) adopted a socialist agenda so I fail to see the logic in that choice. They have made an agreement with our tyrants to provide TROOPS to squelch any uprising here. Do you really think you'll be welcomed at the border?? It is not the weather that keeps Americans, fed-up with the status quo here, from moving to Canada!!! Maybe you should make that move now while you may still be able to.
"T":
I don't want you to get the wrong impression of my comments. I think it takes balls to speak up and point out what is wrong in this country. As someone that has experienced a socialist government first hand you can and should point out the problems as you see them. Where you lost my respect was in your personal indictments of the members posting here, your own personal hypocrisy when it comes to authority and most disturbing; your self-center, self-serving opinion on what is worth defending!!! IF you have a real desire for freedom, you should realize by now the only way to achieve it, or keep it, is to fight for it!!!! What you fail to realize is that without freedom you have no security!! Had you tried it at home you may not have had to leave your homeland!!! The only person more qualified to speak on the "EVIL" of a socialist Government is someone that has experienced "Freedom", sees it slipping away and will embrace and defend it at all cost. I get the impression you missed that boat. Maybe just mistook the life raft for the boat. That does NOT include bowing to a different master under a different cloak of providing you with their (or the same `ol) version of "security and prosperity" while still promoting their tyrannical agenda. You need to shed the ideology of "authoritarianism is good" embrace your present state of freedom and fight even harder to insure you can enjoy it in the future!! HERE!! The last bastion of hope for Freedom on Earth. However, if you're bent on running from your dream; can I have your guns when you attempt your next escape from tyranny??? You won't have any use for them anywhere else if you won't use them to defend yourself and your freedoms here.
I have no ties to the author or the Book but I suggest you read "How To Be A Successful Tyrant" By Larken Rose. It could be instrumental in undoing some of your previous indoctrinations toward many, many things.
"It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our Founding Fathers used in the struggle for independence." - Charles A. Beard
Thank you for polite reply. Basically, the longer I am in USA, the more I begin to think that universal healthcare and free education along with guaranteed jobs IS the way to go. I have headaches right now that I NEVER head when me and my families lived in USSR. My parents have much bigger problems here then they had when they were in the USSR. Yes, you get only one SOB to be your overlord. Here you get to choose one out of two. In any case, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE SOB. Over there, there were a caste of their own. A party elite.
The ruler always came from their ranks. Over here it is a different elite - financial or political. Not a single one of the candidates EVER was not a millionaire, or was not bought guts and soul by various business and political interests. So, I really see no difference anymore... No, I see it. In USSR at least we had job security, free medicine and free education (and you get into the university not because you are minority, but only if you pass entrance exams). So, we didn't have a free speech. Frankly, the more I see what kind of crap is on TV, radio and music, the more I start thinking that maybe, just maybe sensorship in NOT such a bad idea.
So, we didn't have a right to bear most kinds of arms (you could have a shotgun or a bolt action rifle), however, the criminals there were not let out on parole because "they had a harsh childhood and they are a minority". And yes, our education was so good that right now, the people who graduated soviet engineering schools and medical schools are taking jobs from US graduates. Just go into any research fascility and see how many Russians are there... Just a thought.
BTW most of them owe NO loyalty to USA, if tomorrow Chinese would pay them more money, they would work for CHINESE. Then again, this is an american value GREED IS GOOD as Mr. Reagan said, right?
Do NOT get me wrong. I LOVED USA the way it was back in late 80s early 90s. However, since that time, I feel that it takes everything that was BAD AND WRONG in the USSR, without taking anything that was GOOD in the USSR, combines it with everything that was WRONG in the USA, without taking anything that is GOOD in the USA. You see the results.
Now, to all would be armchair commandos. Number one - I am calling you all bluff and windbags. Number two - I am calling you all a bunch of provocauteurs and/or FBI who are here to watch for Militia activity. Number three - let me assure you that you beloved heroic US Military and your equally belived and equally heroic Police will NEVER hesitate before blowing your brains out, raping your wife, and or shooting her too. Iraq shows quite plainly what our military can do. If Iraq is not enough for you, then I submit to you Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Now, then. Having established that. Lets continue. You claim that I support tyranny with my taxes. Good. I suggest that you try NOT to pay taxes and see who owns your property and what happens whan you do not pay that old fat meanie Uncle Sam what he considers his due.
You are brave to talk. Try not to support the oppressive tyranny by NOT paying your money. I would see how far you would get.
Now, then. I have worked hard and have 3 properties in here. My parents have 3 more. This is called INVESTMENT. I will not risk my money, and for what? To get blown away by "heroic" police and military and have my name dragged through mud by media and be called "satanic islamic fascist extrimist with marxist and leninist views who molests dogs and abuses children". Ain't worth it.
I voted in EACH and every election. 50% of you did not. Enjoy.
I voted not on party lines, but for what I beleived is right, the rest of you puppets toed to the party line just as good as we did back in the USSR. You would vote for a satan himself if your party would endorce him. None of you ever questioned your leaders. None of you EVER questioned the direction your country was going in.
When I said anything I was told "You are unpatriotic. Go back to your F-n Russia". To which I replied "Russia isn't mine. USSR is. However it is in ruins, I live here now and I want my home to be in a top shape and great condition as long as I live here. Oh, btw, my country is in ruins thanx to the apathetic or gullible peons who believed what US propaganda told them, and thanx to retarded party officials who could offer nothing tangible to counteract it. It is most ironic to see the same thing happen here."
Now, as far as guns. Do I like that right? Damn straight, bro.
Do I pay my dues to the government and to NRA and to ISRA? Damn straight, bro. Do I go on pro gun rallies? Damn straight I do. Was on each rally in Springfield in last 3 years."
What else do you want from me? YOu want me to start screaming how I want to be a part of the revolution? I won't. I do not want to get killed, and I do not think that ANY OF YOU have a spine to stand up and fight when you beloved "heroic" US army will open the can of whoopass on their countrymen since "it would be a professional thing to do" and that "this is just a job" and "I get paid for it" and "I just followed orders" and "These extremists gun nuts were all islamic terrorists and obama/osama lovers".
Ain't worth my life. Ain't even worth my time. I am not about to partake in something illegal and risk my life, my family and everything that I have worked hard to get. You want to do this? Have fun. Though I doubt it that you have anything to offer rather then talk. When US military in IRAQ refuses to go into battle because they didn't have their ice cream delivered, that tells me EVERYTHING I needed to know about morale of the troops and, therefore, the country.
When people enlist to get money for education (the only way they can get it) or for the money and sign up bonus, that lets me know that if tomorrow China or Honduras offers them more, they will sign up there.
I will not put myself in risk of dying. I will not risk my family or my money. However, I will greatly enjoy watching as if something happens NONE OF YOU, BRAGGARDS will stand up and fight.
At which point I will shrug my shoulders, get my money out of US banks, and move to Canada. Or to Ireland. Or to Italy.
You, guys either are feds, or all talk, or simply have nothing to loose: no family, no money, no investments and no careers.
MONEY TALKS. BS WALKS - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
GREED IS GOOD - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY.
ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR NUMBER ONE - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
NOTHING PERSONAL, THIS IS BUSINESS - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
For many years those lessons were hammered into my head. I learned them well.0 -
Fodder in the grind, a personal prespective. Just because you are a coward or have too much to loose does not mean that you can in any way gauge the spirit or threat of an American male or female pissed. 0 -
I will leave The articilate ravings to the people whose egoes need the spit and polish. It gains me nothing and pisses me of. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dangerous T
Thank you for polite reply. Basically, the longer I am in USA, the more I begin to think that universal healthcare and free education along with guaranteed jobs IS the way to go. I have headaches right now that I NEVER head when me and my families lived in USSR.
So, this is what I've been saying for years now and people wouldn't listen. Meaning that immigration breaks this country's back. Here's a question though: why not go back to USSR or PRC or some such rather than making this country as messed up as those places if you loved it there so much?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dangerous T
I will not put myself in risk of dying. I will not risk my family or my money. However, I will greatly enjoy watching as if something happens NONE OF YOU, BRAGGARDS will stand up and fight.
At which point I will shrug my shoulders, get my money out of US banks, and move to Canada. Or to Ireland. Or to Italy.
'nuff said I think, pretty much summarizes it all as well as the individual who says something like that.0 -
Dangerous ... no matter how you dismiss yourself from the failings around you concerning our nation, the United States of America ...
You are NOT Excused!!
You're basically devising an exist stragedy and a deceptive 'reason', based upon a bad past, to comfort yourself for not to fighting for what is right, pure and God-given in the human experience.
Example: Most all criminals in the US cite some 'reason' for committing the crimes they perpetrated. Offered up are 'reasons' such as a "bad childhood", a "terrible relationship", being sexually abused or not getting enough vitamins as a child. As these 'reasons' surface, it becomes overtly evident that these are NOT at all a 'reasons', but mere 'EXCUSES'. An excuse to fail instead of a 'reason' to hide behind.
You see, its apparently easier for many to just take the lame way out of a situation rather than fight for what is right. Such as your case.
I do NOT buy into your "EXCUSE" that you must run because you've experienced a fall of your homeland before. Your humble cry of deeply embedded scars of a war-torn homeland doesn't hold water for rejecting Patriotism. In fact, I would think that comparing the US's reflection in the mirror against the fall of Russia would fortify your resolve to aid in the protection to keep the same thing from happening to you twice in a single lifetime. Refusing to act with honor when you know its the right thing to do is DEFENSELESS.
I feel your pain, I understand your scars, but I don't understand why you would not participate in defending what you know is Honorable and protect your family from reliving the same, exact horrible experience.
I just don't understand.
quote:Originally posted by Dangerous T
quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
It's just too hot and humid to be outside right now. So....
I can Not be as brief as Highball so bare with me. "Dangerous T" makes some valid observation but none-the-less exposes himself as a "servant of authority". He has obviously been exposed to a "Communist Government" and didn't like it. He and his family chose to live under that government without resistance and take what was offered as their daily ration of existence. When the system failed and before its revival he ran while he could. He came here looking for a true sense of freedom and the American dream. He admits that he has fought to preserve our "Democracy" while others shirk their duty with an apathy he fully recognizes from experience. He had one choice in a dictatorial tyrant under a Communist Regime. Here we have the opportunity to pick, between two chosen candidates, just who will be our next tyrant. The left (Democrats) promote the socialist agenda while the right (Republicans) promotes the fascist agenda. Either way we end up with a tyrant. But, under the guise of Democracy, we get to choose which tyrant we prefer. Personally I think the fascist will win because the powers behind the scene know that communism kills capitalism. The problem we face this cycle is that both candidates we have been presented with could go either way. "T" has, again, freely chosen to bow to authority but, this time, he is supporting the fascist regime since he recognizes the left agenda of socialism. However, he is unable to deny that ingrained indoctrination that "Government" must have authority over the populace.
He is right about immigration. Our policy should be reformed to include ONLY political prisoners who were jailed for resisting tyranny. We should no longer accept refuges that just come here for a better opportunity yet bring their socialist/fascist ideals with them. Those choosing to support the government agenda until things turn sour and then run again!! What `T" fails to realize is that this IS the last bastion of freedom on the globe. As corrupt as our tyrant(s) may be and the fact that we teeter on the edge of a fascist state, we still have an ingrained desire and the means to resist by any means. Although this isn't a common belief among the majority, the numbers grow daily with the advances in restricting our "Rights" and threats of further tyranny. By his own admission when that time comes, rather than resist authority and defend his REASON FOR COMING HERE IN THE PLACE, he will run again and once again abandon any hope of freedom and prosperity for temporary security. Canada has already (for the most part) adopted a socialist agenda so I fail to see the logic in that choice. They have made an agreement with our tyrants to provide TROOPS to squelch any uprising here. Do you really think you'll be welcomed at the border?? It is not the weather that keeps Americans, fed-up with the status quo here, from moving to Canada!!! Maybe you should make that move now while you may still be able to.
"T":
I don't want you to get the wrong impression of my comments. I think it takes balls to speak up and point out what is wrong in this country. As someone that has experienced a socialist government first hand you can and should point out the problems as you see them. Where you lost my respect was in your personal indictments of the members posting here, your own personal hypocrisy when it comes to authority and most disturbing; your self-center, self-serving opinion on what is worth defending!!! IF you have a real desire for freedom, you should realize by now the only way to achieve it, or keep it, is to fight for it!!!! What you fail to realize is that without freedom you have no security!! Had you tried it at home you may not have had to leave your homeland!!! The only person more qualified to speak on the "EVIL" of a socialist Government is someone that has experienced "Freedom", sees it slipping away and will embrace and defend it at all cost. I get the impression you missed that boat. Maybe just mistook the life raft for the boat. That does NOT include bowing to a different master under a different cloak of providing you with their (or the same `ol) version of "security and prosperity" while still promoting their tyrannical agenda. You need to shed the ideology of "authoritarianism is good" embrace your present state of freedom and fight even harder to insure you can enjoy it in the future!! HERE!! The last bastion of hope for Freedom on Earth. However, if you're bent on running from your dream; can I have your guns when you attempt your next escape from tyranny??? You won't have any use for them anywhere else if you won't use them to defend yourself and your freedoms here.
I have no ties to the author or the Book but I suggest you read "How To Be A Successful Tyrant" By Larken Rose. It could be instrumental in undoing some of your previous indoctrinations toward many, many things.
"It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our Founding Fathers used in the struggle for independence." - Charles A. Beard
Thank you for polite reply. Basically, the longer I am in USA, the more I begin to think that universal healthcare and free education along with guaranteed jobs IS the way to go. I have headaches right now that I NEVER head when me and my families lived in USSR. My parents have much bigger problems here then they had when they were in the USSR. Yes, you get only one SOB to be your overlord. Here you get to choose one out of two. In any case, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE SOB. Over there, there were a caste of their own. A party elite.
The ruler always came from their ranks. Over here it is a different elite - financial or political. Not a single one of the candidates EVER was not a millionaire, or was not bought guts and soul by various business and political interests. So, I really see no difference anymore... No, I see it. In USSR at least we had job security, free medicine and free education (and you get into the university not because you are minority, but only if you pass entrance exams). So, we didn't have a free speech. Frankly, the more I see what kind of crap is on TV, radio and music, the more I start thinking that maybe, just maybe sensorship in NOT such a bad idea.
So, we didn't have a right to bear most kinds of arms (you could have a shotgun or a bolt action rifle), however, the criminals there were not let out on parole because "they had a harsh childhood and they are a minority". And yes, our education was so good that right now, the people who graduated soviet engineering schools and medical schools are taking jobs from US graduates. Just go into any research fascility and see how many Russians are there... Just a thought.
BTW most of them owe NO loyalty to USA, if tomorrow Chinese would pay them more money, they would work for CHINESE. Then again, this is an american value GREED IS GOOD as Mr. Reagan said, right?
Do NOT get me wrong. I LOVED USA the way it was back in late 80s early 90s. However, since that time, I feel that it takes everything that was BAD AND WRONG in the USSR, without taking anything that was GOOD in the USSR, combines it with everything that was WRONG in the USA, without taking anything that is GOOD in the USA. You see the results.
Now, to all would be armchair commandos. Number one - I am calling you all bluff and windbags. Number two - I am calling you all a bunch of provocauteurs and/or FBI who are here to watch for Militia activity. Number three - let me assure you that you beloved heroic US Military and your equally belived and equally heroic Police will NEVER hesitate before blowing your brains out, raping your wife, and or shooting her too. Iraq shows quite plainly what our military can do. If Iraq is not enough for you, then I submit to you Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Now, then. Having established that. Lets continue. You claim that I support tyranny with my taxes. Good. I suggest that you try NOT to pay taxes and see who owns your property and what happens whan you do not pay that old fat meanie Uncle Sam what he considers his due.
You are brave to talk. Try not to support the oppressive tyranny by NOT paying your money. I would see how far you would get.
Now, then. I have worked hard and have 3 properties in here. My parents have 3 more. This is called INVESTMENT. I will not risk my money, and for what? To get blown away by "heroic" police and military and have my name dragged through mud by media and be called "satanic islamic fascist extrimist with marxist and leninist views who molests dogs and abuses children". Ain't worth it.
I voted in EACH and every election. 50% of you did not. Enjoy.
I voted not on party lines, but for what I beleived is right, the rest of you puppets toed to the party line just as good as we did back in the USSR. You would vote for a satan himself if your party would endorce him. None of you ever questioned your leaders. None of you EVER questioned the direction your country was going in.
When I said anything I was told "You are unpatriotic. Go back to your F-n Russia". To which I replied "Russia isn't mine. USSR is. However it is in ruins, I live here now and I want my home to be in a top shape and great condition as long as I live here. Oh, btw, my country is in ruins thanx to the apathetic or gullible peons who believed what US propaganda told them, and thanx to retarded party officials who could offer nothing tangible to counteract it. It is most ironic to see the same thing happen here."
Now, as far as guns. Do I like that right? Damn straight, bro.
Do I pay my dues to the government and to NRA and to ISRA? Damn straight, bro. Do I go on pro gun rallies? Damn straight I do. Was on each rally in Springfield in last 3 years."
What else do you want from me? YOu want me to start screaming how I want to be a part of the revolution? I won't. I do not want to get killed, and I do not think that ANY OF YOU have a spine to stand up and fight when you beloved "heroic" US army will open the can of whoopass on their countrymen since "it would be a professional thing to do" and that "this is just a job" and "I get paid for it" and "I just followed orders" and "These extremists gun nuts were all islamic terrorists and obama/osama lovers".
Ain't worth my life. Ain't even worth my time. I am not about to partake in something illegal and risk my life, my family and everything that I have worked hard to get. You want to do this? Have fun. Though I doubt it that you have anything to offer rather then talk. When US military in IRAQ refuses to go into battle because they didn't have their ice cream delivered, that tells me EVERYTHING I needed to know about morale of the troops and, therefore, the country.
When people enlist to get money for education (the only way they can get it) or for the money and sign up bonus, that lets me know that if tomorrow China or Honduras offers them more, they will sign up there.
I will not put myself in risk of dying. I will not risk my family or my money. However, I will greatly enjoy watching as if something happens NONE OF YOU, BRAGGARDS will stand up and fight.
At which point I will shrug my shoulders, get my money out of US banks, and move to Canada. Or to Ireland. Or to Italy.
You, guys either are feds, or all talk, or simply have nothing to loose: no family, no money, no investments and no careers.
MONEY TALKS. BS WALKS - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
GREED IS GOOD - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY.
ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR NUMBER ONE - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
NOTHING PERSONAL, THIS IS BUSINESS - THATS THE AMERICAN WAY
For many years those lessons were hammered into my head. I learned them well.0 -
No disrespect in his choices though, what would be the point in fighting if not the continued existance of the things he values most. we are talking about predations of the govt. not becomming some clone of them. 0 -
Yeah ... but ... I guess I just can't comprehend the same mindset. But I appreciate his honesty.
I believe he's posting in the wrong website though. Maybe he should try "KeepKitchensClean.com" or "submitorgethit.org"? Or maybe even "travel.com": I hear there's some really good deals for fleeing refugees.
I don't know ... Sorry Dangerous ... just a little frustrated with the whole "cower down and beg for mercy" concept!
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
No disrespect in his choices though, what would be the point in fighting if not the continued existance of the things he values most. we are talking about predations of the govt. not becomming some clone of them.0 -
[}:)][}:)][}:)][^], I can understand it, as you go along with the mindset we share, you will learn how to respect it, if you truely comprehended, it would effect your overall outlook. So dont try too hard.[8D] 0 -
Dangerous 't' is a keen observer of this country. As an outsider, he is able in a rather disinterested fashion to chart the flaws of America.His bag is how much money and things he has accumulated here...not continued freedom.
That is as far as I travel with `t'.
We that were born here had to discover these flaws from a position of dismayed disbelief...dragged screaming from one rotten, stinking corrupted mess to the next...all the time not wanting to believe that Americans would allow it.
His choice is to continue to run. That becomes easier and easier to do ... once you start.
This is MY country. Damned good men bled out their life to give me a chance to not have the yoke of tyranny around my neck.
We are on the cusp of `enough is enough'..and he will run again.
I will not.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Dangerous 't' is a keen observer of this country. As an outsider, he is able in a rather disinterested fashion to chart the flaws of America.His bag is how much money and things he has accumulated here...not continued freedom.
That is as far as I travel with `t'.
We that were born here had to discover these flaws from a position of dismayed disbelief...dragged screaming from one rotten, stinking corrupted mess to the next...all the time not wanting to believe that Americans would allow it.
His choice is to continue to run. That becomes easier and easier to do ... once you start.
This is MY country. Damned good men bled out their life to give me a chance to not have the yoke of tyranny around my neck.
We are on the cusp of `enough is enough'..and he will run again.
I will not.
Your right friend.
There are things worth fighting for. Freedom being top priority in my book. I truely love my country on it's foundation principles. What those great men and women did/sacrificed makes the world of difference.
Without my freedom, nothing is even mildly secure. My freedom is not secure, unless I stand READY to defend it.
I took an oath, which I stand by above all.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by Highball
Dangerous 't' is a keen observer of this country. As an outsider, he is able in a rather disinterested fashion to chart the flaws of America.His bag is how much money and things he has accumulated here...not continued freedom.
That is as far as I travel with `t'.
We that were born here had to discover these flaws from a position of dismayed disbelief...dragged screaming from one rotten, stinking corrupted mess to the next...all the time not wanting to believe that Americans would allow it.
His choice is to continue to run. That becomes easier and easier to do ... once you start.
This is MY country. Damned good men bled out their life to give me a chance to not have the yoke of tyranny around my neck.
We are on the cusp of `enough is enough'..and he will run again.
I will not.0
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