NRA Bashing II
Do not like the NRA policy? Join it and change it from within! If the NRA had never existed, does anyone realy think we would have the active gun culuture that we have in this country. Sometimes I wonder if some of the critics are not liberal Democrats trying to destroy us from within. Love the NRA or hate it, it is still our best bet for keeping our freedom to own firearms. If every gun owner in the country would join the NRA, no Democrat or Republician would dare to mess with us! I think I have just talked myself into paying for a NRA membership for my brother-in-law. He thinks gun control is just a barganing chip for the politicans. It is. The problem is it is a chip that we always seem to lose, and never win. Brother-in-law is actualy just to cheap to spend the money. I think I will hold off buying a box or two of ammo at the next gun show and pay his membership. If we all did this, Hillary might have to think twice about taking us on!
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quote:Originally posted by Workingzombie
slumlord44, the issue of RBKA is tied to some many other issues related to government.
Can you trust a government that taxes you, then gives your money to other people, other countries, and for causes you do not approve of?
Can you trust a government that is regulating everything, treating you as if you are child of the state?
Can you trust a government that sanctions waterboarding, voiding habeaus corpus, and can wiretaps with a warrant?
The whole issue here is trust. You think the government at all levels, Federal, State, and local, can really decide what is best by limiting what firearms can be owned? Why is it we are supposed to trust our government to have all the cool toys... Nukes, bioweapons, tanks, artillery, fighter aircraft, full auto weapons, grenades, etc., and we cannot be trusted to have a semi-auto pistol with more than 10 round in the magazine ( at least where I live)?
Ask yourself this question--If this is a government of the people, by the people and for the people, why are some of the people better armed than others? are government people "more equal" than others, even in a so-called democracy Constitutional Republic? From whom does the government supposed to derive it's powers from?
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HighballI figured if I got you going long enough you would tell me where you realy stand. You have given up so shut up. You refuse to spend a dime towards any orginization that may help the fight. YOU and those with your attitude are the problem. Blaming the NRA is a cop out. Blame the politicans-yes. Give up on fighting the government and you are done! You think the politicans will not listen to us? They will if enough of us voice our opinions. You forget that most politicans want to get reelcted! The gun lobby one of the most feared. Notice very little mention of gun control by anyone. It can and will be the kiss of death for a politician, only if we make it so.WorkingzombieHave to agree with most of what you say. Have spent a lot of my life fighting city hall, so to speak. Lose more than I win. But I do win some. Keep up the discourse. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:I thought gentleman could agree to disagreeAbout sports teams, Chevy/Ford, Blonde/Redheads...you bet.
There is absolutely no room for disagreements about Gun Rights...sorry.
Either you believe in and support the Second Amendment.OR YOU DON'T.
Your continued support of the NRA means you do not support that document..so, no.'gentlemen' cannot agree to disagree.
Review the list of countries that have adopted Gun bans ..and the staggering numbers of the dead from totalitarian regimes.
Please don't even attempt to tell me that `it cannot happen here'.that will only reveal the utter lack of common sense I assume you possess.
The laws you so blithely pass off are merely the beginning of the end.witness the complete lack of humiliation you feel crawling on your belly begging your daddy to buy a gun.
The VERY IDEA that a full grown man feels no shame having to beg to buy a tool needed to defend his own and loved ones life is as fine an example of the feminization of America a person could possible give..For a man feels it keenly.
Yep, in some people's mind, gentlemenly disagreement is fine. Until you disagree with something they don't want you to disagree about. Kinda like the Taliban and Islam.0 -
quote:They will if enough of us voice our opinions. You forget that most politicans want to get reelcted!
slumlord44, your heart is in the right place. I used to feel the same way. I still love my country, and the Constitution. But if you have to wait till re-election to vote a politician in office, it's too late, the damage is done! Besides, too many of the sheeple will still vote for them, because while he is taking away our rights, he is seducing them with welfare perks to vote for him again. Worse, the executive of the US government has garnered so much power unto itself, it is no longer answerable to either us or Congress. Now Congress still could do something to check the runaway power of the President, but they care so divided among themselves, that they cannot get enough of a majority to do so.
For example, I wrote my Republican Congressman asking him to encourage Congress to over-ride the President's veto on the ban to prevent the CIA from using severe interrogation techniques such as water boarding. All he did is send me a form letter that was non-committal, and state that our personal liberties must be weight against the interests of national security.
The NRA does not want the controversy over RBKA to end--If it did, they would be out of business. So they play both ends in the middle, while they continue to enrich themselves with NRA fees and contributions from the gun manufacturers.0 -
Slumlord;
quote:HighballI figured if I got you going long enough you would tell me where you realy stand. You have given up so shut up.
Your stupidity is showing, again.
"GIVING UP" is your speciality..you and the NRA.
Were I 'given up' as you so proudly proclaim...some errent electrical current firing randomly in your brain giving you that 'thought'..I would not be here attempting to educate you.
quote:You refuse to spend a dime towards any orginization that may help the fight. YOU and those with your attitude are the problem. Blaming the NRA is a cop out.
Been there..done that. Seen my RIGHTS being gutted steadily over the last 40 years..all with the help of people like you.
quote:Blame the politicans-yes. Give up on fighting the government and you are done!
Once again..you presume too much.0 -
quote:Yep, in some people's mind, gentlemenly disagreement is fine. Until you disagree with something they don't want you to disagree about. Kinda like the Taliban and Islam.
TRFox;
I am about done being nice to you. You have 100 % gone over to the dark side...and I pity you.
You, Sir, have cast your lot with those that will disarm and murder your loved ones one of these days...rest easy, knowing that.0 -
Highbal
You gave up. You admited it. I have not. If you refuse to continue the fight and/or put your money where your mouth is, shut up.Just watched John Adams on HBO. If he had your attitude we would still be a British colony.0 -
quote:Highbal
You gave up. You admited it
Yessir..you are right.
I gave up on useless endeavors.
I gave up on supporting people that refuse to uphold the founding documents..
I gave up on rotten corrupt politicians.
I gave up on begging politicians to please obey the Constitution.
I gave up on sending money to organizations that sat down with the devil and took my Rights away.
I gave up on common citizens too illogical to follow the trail enough to even get a DIM grasp of what they are losing by blindly following mis-leaders.
I gave up believing that somehow gun owners that support gun control will magically transform into mighty gladiators on my side the day the gun ban happens.
I gave up wanting to push this problem off on our children ..cowardly turning my back on the problem, hoping against hope that I can retain some small gun permissions as long as I live, at least..
I gave up stupidly crawling on my belly begging for permission to buy a gun ..while I might do it yet today, it is with a sense of real revulsion for the garbage that forces me to do so.and that includes the anti-gun gun owners out there.
I gave up believing that CCWs' is somehow GOOD.that taking a Right and making it permission from slimy bureauRATS is just sooo cool.
Yeah.I have given up.
Just too bad you aren't smart enough to do so.0
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