I have a question
In Illinois we do not allow concealed carry, and certainly not in schools. I am going to a community college a few miles away from NIU, a friend of mine helped to break up a scuffle, during the fight he noticed that an object very similar to that of a handgun fell out of the waistband of one of the fellers, he scooped it back up and ran off. Now this happened about a half hour before I got to school, and there is a gang presence in dekalb and surrounding areas. My question is should I start packing a small sig p239 in my bookbag before I come to school?
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go to jail, or move your ass somewhere else. There is no fifth way.
By all means, burn off some passion here, but I'd rather see you take that fire to your congressman..........Keep those pukes honest.
Well''it took a couple posts for you to reveal how little you know. Carry on....0 -
I carried for a few years in WA state while in the Air Force, and I don't go for the hand cannons... I carried a sig p239 .40...
The issue is that there is an ever increasing presence of bangers at this community college... The majority of them are there for educational purposes or so I hope, but a few I feel are packing and don't have the best intentions... I was just looking for a little advice...
My conclusion is to carry an asp... If I am close enough to use it, I'll at least have something, if I'm not close enough to use it then most likely I will have other options... If I get caught with it then it is more explainable than a gun, and less threatening in the eyes of a nervous courtroom in the same county as the NIU shooting...
Besides an asp used effectively with surprise can do what I need to without the complications....0 -
Maybe this was already covered, but In anger I just zipped to "reply"...
quote:If you break the law and get caught you then become a member of the "criminal class" of society. At that point two things happen to you. One, you may lose your right forever to either/or own firearms or more likely to ever get a CCW; either in another state or in the case that you state finally starts offering CCW.
The other thing that happens to you is that you will no longer be able to claim that you are a lawful, responsible citizen and you deserve to have the overly restrictive laws changed to whereas you can more easily buy and own guns as well as lobby for a CCW law for your state.
Probably be better to follow the present unjust laws and join with other like-minded people and get the laws changed for the better. But I warn you that such action will require more than most people are willing to give. That would be that instead of keeping their money in their pockets, or spending it on fun toys, they instead spend some money helping organizations (or start your own) that work towards helping gun rights. In addition it will require you to spend time and effort protesting, writing letters to your government representatives and to the media and just working to change attitudes in general in order to finally get your rights.
In the meantime, YOU'RE DEAD!
quote:I think that it is an illegal law and should not be followed,
An illegal law is no law at all.0 -
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Hey Crash,
Use to carry an ASP while on the Department. Great intimidator and a reasonably decent defence tool. Be careful with it though. Some jurisdictions consider a strike to the head with one to be lethal force. Common peroneal shots to the outer thigh work well and bad guys have a hard time chasing you if they are on the ground unable to get up.
I personally liked chemical sprays myself for self defence. The downside of them is that you have to be prepared to eat a little if after you deploy it, you are in contact with your subject. Also talked to a few of my old department buddies about the Tazers that they now carry. Kind of a specialty item for specific situations. A little too gadgety for me. (Or maybe I'm getting old)
What ever option that you pick, please get a little training on it. You don't have to be a black belt to be effective. As to the Bangers on campus, We just got started with our Community College system here in Indiana about four years ago and I have not seen major influxes of those types of vermin, but I spoke with a colleague who taught in the Carbondale area and he mentioned the problem was worse in Illinois. What to do about them, do I wish I knew. I have been a Criminal Justice professional for many years and some of our best and brightest are struggling with that problem all over the world. Take each day as a blessing and each day as a risk and do your best. Good as it gets.
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quote:Originally posted by crash2usaf
In Illinois we do not allow concealed carry, and certainly not in schools. I am going to a community college a few miles away from NIU, a friend of mine helped to break up a scuffle, during the fight he noticed that an object very similar to that of a handgun fell out of the waistband of one of the fellers, he scooped it back up and ran off. Now this happened about a half hour before I got to school, and there is a gang presence in dekalb and surrounding areas. My question is should I start packing a small sig p239 in my bookbag before I come to school?
NO! That's illegal.
You should go apply for a concealed carry permit. When you are refused, you should then file a lawsuit claiming infringement of your 2nd Amendment rights and you should carry your suit to the SCOTUS. Get lots and lots of your friends (especially lawyers and journalists) to do the same and make a class action suit out of it.0
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