NRA: good or bad?
my father just paid for a membership for me to the NRA as a gift. i've seen some negative comments on here about the NRA, can anyone tell me what they're about or post links to some info so i can see what they've been up to that seems to be so negative. thanks in advance.
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WELCOME TO THE NRA!!!!
I am a Patron Member and have been a NRA member for 36 years. They have done some industrial strength stupid stuff on the ILA side. Overall the NRA runs matches and sets the rules for many shooting programs very well. No other viable alternative to providing these services has shown up. Shooting insurance is supplied to clubs, hunters and competitors at reasonable rates or free for being a member. Therefore I still support the NRA. Other groups like GOA are active on the political side but offer little in services to competitive shooters. We need all gun owners to speak with a unified voice. Sometimes that voice gets a bit shrill on the ends of the bell curve.
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ok I'm going to give this a try.
I'v been a life member from 1985, I was a general for years be before
that.I can not evan attemp by my self to protect my rights,that is why I joined a large group to do it for me.sure people say they compromise to much,they may but remember your dealing with goverment
here. The nuts we have in congress want the vote of this large group
but they will not give us every thing we want as they want votes from other large groups that don't agree with us.congress does not
give much of a dm about the constitution.they only think about them selves. remember you can not get every body on the GB forum to agree any thing.
I suggest you vist the NRA web page
here is a link to my gun club,on the right towards the bottom is a list of NRA activeties.
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I live in San Francisco. Last year San Francisco passed a handgun ban. The NRA footed much of the bill, immediately went to court and got the handgun ban put on hold and ulitimately overturned. Were it not for the NRA I would have been required to turn in all my handguns (about 50 of them) in 90 days and with no compensation from the city.
Thank you for joining the NRA. Please ask others to do the same.0 -
I to am a life member since 1979. Definately the best large unified voice going for our side. As stated above, shooting rules and insurance also a big plus. Give them whatever you can, we need them around. I believe anyone passionate about their weapons, shooting, or hunting should be a member. Please do get vocal and encourage your shooting buddies to join as well.
Mark D.0 -
Do a search on this forum and you will pull up more info than you know what to do with. My advice is to study up on the facts and make an educated decision for yourself. The NRA will never get another dime from me...they are wolves in sheep's clothing. 0 -
The late Neal Knox was an NRA director who felt that some of their leadership had lost site of the organizations goals, & were too anxious to compromise with our enemies. For his trouble, he was forced out. His work continues under his son Jeff's leadership. His organization, while small, is an excellent source of unbiased information:
http://firearmscoalition.org/
Neal0 -
I am a life member of the NRA. I truly believe they are the best thing going for gun owners. Now I don't always agree with the NRA but I know where my rights would be today if we never had a NRA. There are other pro gun groups out there like GOA (I am also a life member of) that claim to be the only 100% NO COMPRAMISE 2nd amendment fighters. I get a letter from them once a month reminding me of this but I see very little of the work they claim they done. They are small potatoes compared to the NRA. Some do nothing but bash the NRA and they have the right to but if they think we would have more gun rights without the NRA they need a reality check. So anyway I think the NRA is a great Organization and now that your a member you should look at joining GOA and any other pro gun organization that fits your fancy.[;)] 0 -
......ugly.[:o)]
dont believe me? pick up a 1947 AMR and look at the cover. now pick one up from 2008.[;)]0 -
The NRA is not here to damage gun owners.
There is a reason everybody in the firearm business promotes the NRA
There are few that would like to tople the NRA for various reasons but to tople the NRA would be a bad thing.
And I will leave it at that.0 -
They have to many youth programs to abandon those kids are our future in 10 to 15 years when they become voters 0 -
They say there are 80 million gun owners in this country but only 4 million belong to the NRA. If just 10% of them belonged to the NRA there would be no gun control legislation seriously considered. Politicianss are also Mathmaticians. 95% of the U.S.gun owners are taking a free ride. For your membership you will also get the NRA magazine and be informed about the other side of the coin, the one you will never see from the "media". If you do not agree after one year, cancel your membership. I've been a life member for 30+ years and have never caught them in a lie! 0 -
Hello Just like the U.S. government has many faults The NRA also has many thinks I would change. Their support to shooting sports and matches is PITIFUL I think they would like the reason the NRA was founded to just go away . However just like the U.S. government they do a better Job then anyone else in this country or any other Pro Gun organization in the world . On the positive side they just hired the 8 time National Champion Bulls-Eye Pistol Shooter "Brian Zins" To head up the Pistol Programs . Maybe they will get back to there Roots . I have been a life member for 40 years Got my daughter a life membership for her First birthday and plan to do the same for my Grandson . The NRA does keep the wolfs at BAY 0 -
I had the pleasure of sitting down and talking face to face with two gunshop owners from Australia a month ago and they could not fathom stress strong enough how that if all the gun owners in America could come together how strong of a group it would be. They would shake their head in disbelief at how American gunowners would not join the NRA first and then if they wanted to join the other gun organizations to do that also and how gun owners could absolutly control their destiny when it comes to gun ownership.
They saw the Australian Gov bring the sweeping restrictions to their country and as two that had experienced it first hand they could not stress enough how important it is to join together as gun owners or lose what you think will never be lost.0 -
I cant believe the the Anti NRA crowd isn't all over this thread. 0 -
The NRA is kind of like the human race. Not perfect but it is the best thing going and I am a member. Or at least that is what my card says. 0 -
Read ECC's post again. 0 -
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quote:Originally posted by MVP
The NRA is not here to damage gun owners.
There is a reason everybody in the firearm business promotes the NRA
There are few that would like to tople the NRA for various reasons but to tople the NRA would be a bad thing.
And I will leave it at that.
Because they make $10.00 for every membership they sell?
What about the 80K 01 ffl's that were put out of business by the "crime bill"?0 -
I'm a member and I only wish I could join other such organizations.
The NRA called me last night for the first time in over a year. The nice lady said "...we'd like to thank you for your contributions over the years..."
And before she could draw another breath, I told her she was very welcome, wished her a nice evening and hung up.
I hate sales calls.
I've been reading American Rifleman magazines from as far back as 1967. The NRA either:
A) Is still beating the same, worn old drum about the "Gun-grabbing Boogiemen"
or
Has been beating the wolf from gun-owners' doors since at least then.
Depending how you view them.
Either way, they are the best-connected, most experienced gun lobby in the United States.0 -
If big business is only supporting the NRA for a measly 10.00 like they need the 10.00 they will not be in business long.
What about the 80,000 01 ffls out of business?
The NRA did that?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
I've been reading American Rifleman magazines from as far back as 1967. The NRA either:
A) Is still beating the same, worn old drum about the "Gun-grabbing Boogiemen"
or Has been beating the wolf from gun-owners' doors since at least then.
Depending how you view them.
Where I disagree with them is their tactics. I'd really like to join, but some of their previous fund-raising letters & their attacks really turned me off.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dan55362
I cant believe the the Anti NRA crowd isn't all over this thread.
Allow me to simply state this....
Please do some research here on the forums for large volumes of past postings and information and also elsewhere as ECC suggested.
There are numerous verifiable references and other sources of information about historic, recent and current NRA duplicity and support of gun-control, which are cited by the "anti-NRA crowd", which I am counted as one by the GB populace.
From where I sit and from a factual basis, the NRA simply supports a different Amendment II that that enumerated in the US Constitution's Bill of Rights.
The NRA's Second Amendment is all about ensuring some degree of access to firearms for self-defense, shooting sports, shooting competition, hunting and target shooting. The caveat is that all this be with government regulation (infringement).
They also strongly support CCW laws, which have turned what was meant to be an inviolate, God-given right, into a government "must approve", thus government revocable, "privilege".
Lots more could be said about the issue and NRA actions that go back to the 1920's/30's which clearly show them supporting, facilitating and in some cases assisting in the drafting of gun-control legislation.
Do the research and make your own decision, just be informed about the provable facts, not what you are told by many blindly obedient NRA Zombies.[;)]
Oh, and before anyone gets their panties in a wad, note that I am a NRA Life-Member and GOA Life-Member. I just wouldn't join the NRA now if I had known then what I now know.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
If big business is only supporting the NRA for a measly 10.00 like they need the 10.00 they will not be in business long.
What about the 80,000 01 ffls out of business?
The NRA did that?
It was another concession they made, part of the omnibus crime bill of 94, the loss of dealers put a lot of distributors out of business too.
Don0 -
Just joined the NRA huh, well expect to see your membership fee wasted on tons of junk mail wanting more of your money, not to mention the phone calls.
No Thanks[V]
Got Guns?0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dan55362
I cant believe the the Anti NRA crowd isn't all over this thread.
Allow me to simply state this....
Please do some research here on the forums for large volumes of past postings and information and also elsewhere as ECC suggested.
There are numerous verifiable references and other sources of information about historic, recent and current NRA duplicity and support of gun-control, which are cited by the "anti-NRA crowd", which I am counted as one by the GB populace.
From where I sit and from a factual basis, the NRA simply supports a different Amendment II that that enumerated in the US Constitution's Bill of Rights.
The NRA's Second Amendment is all about ensuring some degree of access to firearms for self-defense, shooting sports, shooting competition, hunting and target shooting. The caveat is that all this be with government regulation (infringement).
They also strongly support CCW laws, which have turned what was meant to be an inviolate, God-given right, into a government "must approve", thus government revocable, "privilege".
Lots more could be said about the issue and NRA actions that go back to the 1920's/30's which clearly show them supporting, facilitating and in some cases assisting in the drafting of gun-control legislation.
Do the research and make your own decision, just be informed about the provable facts, not what you are told by many blindly obedient NRA Zombies.[;)]
Oh, and before anyone gets their panties in a wad, note that I am a NRA Life-Member and GOA Life-Member. I just wouldn't join the NRA now if I had known then what I now know.
AAAAAA there they come
I have done my research like you said on the forums and all I could find are anti NRA whiners hell bent on destroying the credibility of the NRA. Like it or not the NRA has done a hell of lot more than you and your anti NRA cronies at preserving your gun rights. Tell me sir what laws have you stopped or overturned with your Anti NRA agenda? Now you can have your opinion and I will have mine but before you go off on your usual reply and call me arrogant for not hating the NRA with you answer that one question for me.0 -
If I join will they take Paypal? [:D][:D] 0 -
Over 10 years ago I told the guy on the phone from the NRA I didn't want anymore calls from them and to take me off the junk mail list.
I get one phone call a year and one or two letter type info envelopes a year.
It is real easy to get off their solicitation lists. All you have to do is ask them.0 -
If you were the NRA and you knew that there were 80 million gun owners and you could only get 4 million to join your organization you would try some desparate marketing ideas too.
While I respect many of the members of this forum, you don't want me talking about some of the people I meet where I have been shooting.
Do you know the people who shoot the road signs.
Do you know the people who drink alcohol then shoot.
Do you know the people who shoot at the shooting bench and use the stools as target stands.
How about the shooters who when asked not to shoot in the area where the 4 wheelers were riding replied that if you don't like it call the cops.
How about the hunter who had to ask my uncle to unload his gun for him because he did not know how.
I have participated in a number of interests over the years and guns seem to attract a greater number of undesirables than my other interests.
I would not be suprised to find that I would wish that of the 80 million gun owners that 5 million or more did not own guns. Not that I don't think they should have the right to own them but only that they would choose not to own a gun because would treat or use it properly.0 -
Next year will be my 30th years as an NRA Life Member. Since I joined back in 1979 I have received a closet full of hats, a drawer full of belt buckels, several fancy looking certificates to hang on my walls, letters from Wayne La Pierre praising me for my membership(it was really nothing Wayne), a couple of copies of his book (yawn), enough issues of the American Rifleman to have caused the death of at least one tree by turning it into paper pulp, and various other NRA trinkets, pins, coffee cups, ect., ect. I did receive some very useful gun safety information for my girls who both loved Eddie Eagle (I like him too). In those nearly 30 years since I joined the NRA I have watched my gun rights slowly disappear until I used to believe that things here in California probably can't get any worse, but then every time I thought that I was proven wrong! 0 -
I can't say that they are to blame 100% for what has happened, no sir
I blame the 76 million other gun owners that if united threw the NRA, the GOA, or what the he!! ever "A" then,
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EVERY OTHER FU GIN DAY!!!!!
they get my money for now, as does the GOA0
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