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  • wsfiredude
    Im reading some posts and seeing that some are not happy with the NRA. Can someone summarize or show me a previous post that explains some of this.

    Thanks
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  • 45long
    Firedude,,,,,,,I can agree with you more. Though I am not a Paul supporter. I know exactly what your talking about with the NRA. I was a member a fews back. California was heading down another road to ban something and I called the NRA to see what they were doing to help stop yet another ban in this state. Basically I was told that California was a lost cause and that they were concetrating on a national level. So I said ok and asked to be transferred to the membership dept. so I could cancel mine. That was when Heston was either just out or on his way. I don;t recall exactly. But it was very disappointing. I ahve recently tried to get educational materials from them concerning their children safty programs. E-mail phone calls, nothing. Not interested anymore in those little things. All NRA Members have been sold down the river by these guys. It's a disgrace. Shamefull.
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  • kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    National Rifle Association of America
    Attn: Wayne LaPierre - Exec. VP
    11250 Waples Mill Rd.
    Fairfax VA 22030

    I have been a member of the NRA since 1991, and a life member since 1998. I have supported the NRA both vocally and monetarily in their efforts, but no more. I have stood idly by for the last few years and watched as more and more restrictions have been signed into law. Meanwhile, the NRA has appeared to do little or nothing to fight these restrictions, and even went as far as supporting the most recent legislation, HR 2640.
    It was this support of HR 2640 that was the proverbial "nail in the coffin." I know that any legislation with support from the likes of Sen. Schumer and Rep. McCarthy cannot be good for firearms owners. It doesn't surprise me when they support restrictive legislation, but for the organization, that supposedly represents me and my RTKBA supports it, I find it appalling. HR 2640 was nothing more than the typical "knee-jerk" reaction to a terrible tragedy; ironically, an incident that may have been prevented had it not been for previous legislation declaring school property and college campuses as "gun-free" zones. Do not bother with replying to me singing the praises of this legislation, and touting it as being pro-gun. It's not. When I was a kid, my grandfather used to tell me, "Shane, you can take a hog. You can clean and wash him up. You can put a ribbon around his neck; but you know what? He's still a hog." The NRA fell for this garbage hook, line, and sinker. They bought-in to the argument that HR 2640 was "common-sense" regulation. The NRA believed the government of the United States, and what they were saying. A little study in history will show that is a very risky thing to do. The NRA should also cease its mantra of "enforce, enforce, enforce the existing laws." _ of the existing firearms laws now are unconstitutional. How about "repeal, repeal, repeal?"

    I also take issue with the NRA on its action, or lack thereof, in this election year. We have a candidate vying for the Presidency this year that has openly stated his support for the Constitution / RTKBA, and has backed it up with his action in the U.S. House of Representatives. His record leaves no question as to his passionate support of the 2nd Amendment. He has consistently voted for pro-gun legislation and has consistently voted against further restrictions on our RTKBA. I would think that an organization as influential as the NRA would be exhausting all efforts in encouraging support for Rep. Ron Paul. In your literature, you are always using the example of "Lexington Green" and the "shot heard round the world." Well, it is time you take some of you own medicine and follow the example of the famous patriot Paul Revere. You should be "hanging lanterns in the bell tower" and "riding through the night" to inform gun owners about Rep. Paul, and doing everything you can to garner support for him in his bid for the Presidency, but I have witnessed none of this. No email alerts. No mailers. No columns in the American Rifleman. No phone calls. Nothing but the chirping of crickets. Why? I surmise that you have taken the same position as the mainstream media, and believe Rep. Paul is a non-viable candidate, i.e. unelectable. You will choose your "golden-boy" candidate to endorse, even though that candidate will not be as strong a supporter of the Constitution as Rep. Paul. We have started choosing candidates on "electability" or "the lesser of two evils." I have always despised that logic because your conscience should determine whom you support, and voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still a vote for evil. Whatever happened to doing the right thing because it is right? It may not be popular, but it is right, nonetheless.

    Because of the two issues I have mentioned, with particular emphasis on the first one, you, the NRA, have alienated gun owners. Many of them are members of your organization. Many of them are former members of your organization. I have been a "hold-out" so far. I believe everyone is subject to making bad decisions, and I believe in giving them a chance to redeem themselves. Many of your former members will disagree, and believe you have established a pattern of the aforementioned behaviors. I am inclined to agree with them. I believe you may be able to save face if:

    1) You issue a formal apology to all firearms owners for supporting this most recent legislation (HR2640), as well as the other "common-sense" restrictions you've stood behind.

    2) Immediately begin a campaign to not only block further restrictive legislation, but to repeal most of the legislation in place. You should be familiar with it, because you gave your stamp of approval on much of it.

    3) Endorse Rep. Ron Paul as your candidate for President of the United States. You know of all the candidates, he is the strongest supporter of the RTKBA, and has the record to prove it.

    Do this, and it will show the gun owners in this country that you have some integrity left. However, continue on the path you have been on, and you will leave me with no choice. I will be mailing my membership card back to you, and withdrawing from your organization. I will not give my vocal support to you when I am among other gun owners, and will point them to organizations such as GOA and JFPO. I will give you no monetary support to put in the bag with your "thirty pieces of silver" either. And do not make the mistake of thinking, "He's just one member; it doesn't matter." There are many other of your members that feel just as betrayed as I do. Many have left, and unless there is a change of direction, many more will leave, including myself. Do what is right.
    Sincerely, Shane Draughn


    Scathing, but I had to send it to them. They brought it upon themselves.




    Dear Sir,

    Your letter brought a tear to my eye.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    wsfiredude,

    My hat is off to you sir.

    Excellent letter, excellent points. You are a good man Shane.[^]
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  • nyforester
    wsfiredude

    Do you mind if I copy your letter and send it to the NRA myself ?

    Great job !
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  • Permanently deleted user
    WTG!!! A man that can think for himself...glad to see someone else finally figure it out for themselves.
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  • Highball
    Firedude;
    May I post it...without editorial comment...over on General ?

    It may well be poofed...And I prefer I get poofed..

    Well said, by the way.
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  • wsfiredude
    Highball, go ahead and post it. For any other member than may want to copy it and send it to the NRA or post it to another forum, go ahead. The way I see it, it just helps to get the word out. For too long now, people, good people, have been "brainwashed" somehow into believing that:
    1) If the NRA supports it, then it must be good for RTKBA.
    2) The candidate that the NRA endorses is the best with regard to
    RTKBA.
    3) We have to "compromise" and give a little to protect our RTKBA.

    These three statements are all false. I want people to think when it is time to cast their vote. I know i have, and it is blatantly obvious that Rep. Paul is the strongest supporter of the Constitution.
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  • Highball
    Thank you, Sir;

    We who refuse to swallow amy more of what the NRA crams down our throats are hated, reviled, and feared by many rank and file gun owners.
    Indeed...some of us have come to the conclusion that gun owners supporting gun laws may well be the worst kind of enemy..one that seems to be in your camp..so to speak...only to throw a grenade into the ammo dump as soon as ones' back is turned.
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  • wsfiredude
    Highball, you are exactly right. Supporting an organization that supports this type of legislation is well, for lack of a better cliche, shooting yourself in the foot. I have reached a point where I cannot in good conscience support an organization that takes action resulting in the degradation of the Constitution.
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  • slumlord44
    While I have to agree that the NRA is not always 100% on the right track, if they cease to exist, who will fight for us? If enough people who do not like the direction of the NRA join it and push for change, it will happen. Not supporting it is not an option in my opinion. Ditto for the state rifle associations. If every gun owner in the country did this, the polliticans would not mess with gun owners. United we stand. Divided we fall. If there is a better, viable orginization out there, let us all know. Slumlord44
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  • pickenup
    For those who have not had a chance to read it.
    A little about the NRA.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=263795

    Read at least the first page.
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  • wsfiredude
    Slum,

    Two organizations that come to mind are GOA (Gun Owners of America) and JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership). Both organizations totally and unequivocally support the Constitution / RTKBA as it is written by the Founders, not how some politician or the NRA believes it should be. These organizations are not as large as the NRA and have nowhere near the funding, yet they are 100 times more active in opposing new legislation and fighting for the removal of old legislation. GOA and JPFO have not crawled into bed with anti-RTKBA gurus as the NRA has, and neither organization has ever propagated the failed logic of, "we have to compromise a little."
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  • Wagon Wheel
    wsfiredude:

    My complements on an excellent letter. A million of those might have some effect.

    This one may be of value as well. Most of the information on the NRA sell-out is in one post on page 2. Posted - 06/04/2007 : 10:57:02 AM
    Potential NRA petition.
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=247347
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