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  • Highball
    mccains best buddy. They are joined at the hip.

    Just another piece of snit that the Founders would have driven out of this country, had he dared to run his mouth with such drivel.

    Here, today, he is a conquering hero.
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  • 76lawdog76
    My problem is the gun show "loophole" mentality that seems to pervade the thinking of these politicians.

    People who sell guns ILLEGALLY will continue to sell guns ILLEGALLY.

    People who buy guns to do horrible violent crimes against others will continue to find a way to obtain guns and continue their violent behavior.

    We can parallel this the war on drugs--- all of the money spent on prevention and enforcement, all of the "tough" legislation that makes penalties harsher and jail time longer--has not worked.

    The only difference is we do not have a Fundamental Right to do drugs, whereas we have a Fundamental Right to arm ourselves.

    Can the United States Gov. guarantee the safety of my family?

    Guarantee my wife will not be raped?

    Guarantee my home will not be invaded?

    My Children will not be killed?

    The answer is an emphatic NO!

    I believe in justice but we must be able to protect ourselves from those who do not follow our laws.
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  • joshmb1982
    i wrote him back and said about as much. i told him that illegals and druggies do not go to gun stores id ive had background checks done on they few rifles ive bought at gunshows. i said criminals get their arms in some dark alley from someones trunk. im waiting for a response to my second email.
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  • Jim Rau
    Laws mean nothing if:
    1. They do not have 'public' support.
    2. There are not enough resources to enforce them.
    We have to continue to 'educate' people of the ignorance of gun laws.
    We must get more 'resources' applied in the opposite direction to fight this crap. But education is the key. We MUST get 'The People' to support what we see as a flagrant violation of our individual rights.[:(!]
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  • dan kelly
    why doesnt he introduce laws that will make it impossible for someone convicted of armed robbery or rape while armed or any other crime commited while armed...with anything from a gun a knife, or a brick to be released from prison..and build more prisons if need be..it could be a groth industry for about 5 years..by then people might...just might get the message that commiting these crimes isn`t worth getting caught!

    and you have strong laws compared to us...if you are a first time offender getting sentenced for armed robbery on a shop you would be unlucky if you spent 12 months behind bars [V]..then they are put back out in society for us to deal with...they have rights...law abading people have no rights at all!![xx(]
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  • chaoslodge
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    why doesnt he introduce laws that will make it impossible for someone convicted of armed robbery or rape while armed or any other crime commited while armed...with anything from a gun a knife, or a brick to be released from prison..and build more prisons if need be..it could be a groth industry for about 5 years..by then people might...just might get the message that commiting these crimes isn`t worth getting caught!

    and you have strong laws compared to us...if you are a first time offender getting sentenced for armed robbery on a shop you would be unlucky if you spent 12 months behind bars [V]..then they are put back out in society for us to deal with...they have rights...law abading people have no rights at all!![xx(]


    Good question Dan!

    Part of the problem is we spend inordinate amounts of resources prosecuting some drug use and the underground economy that surrounds it. Ironically, that is where most of our gun crime stems from too. The marginalization of drug trafficking business means its disputes are settled with violence instead of seeking relief in a court of law. The exorbitant prices propped up artificially by legisilation create desperate situations for addicts where they do stupid desperate things. How many people rob or kill for a beer in Australia? Not very many here either. You can get one in the convenience store on the corner most places for less than a buck.

    Long sentences for real crime and decriminalization of non crimes so that our LEOs have the time and resources to really protect us.
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  • Hunter Mag
    Not that it will do any good but tell him that local,state and federal laws DO NOT trump the constitution!!!
    The constitution IS FOR local,state and the federal government to ABIDE by.
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  • Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    why doesnt he introduce laws that will make it impossible for someone convicted of armed robbery or rape while armed or any other crime commited while armed...with anything from a gun a knife, or a brick to be released from prison..and build more prisons if need be..it could be a groth industry for about 5 years..by then people might...just might get the message that commiting these crimes isn`t worth getting caught!




    He should not because our Federal Government should not be involved in the sentencing of criminals for other than Federal crimes. There is no Federal Statute against murder, rape, pillage, or plunder unless, of course the assailant is of a lighter hue than the victim. Our Feds have used Civil Rights wording in Constitutional Amendments and legislation to extend the reach of the Federal Government into local jurisdictions in matter of race. Granted, our history is such that reasonable people can see the justification, but it does not change the fact that these intrusions have opened the door for Federal mandatory sentencing as you suggest.

    Sentencing guidelines remain for the most part within the power of the States (as it should be). I personally see little advantage in trading gun rights restrictions for Federal sentencing guidelines, the effective take-over of our entire Criminal Justice System.

    The bottom line remains, however. Mr. Lieberman is supporting gun rights restrictions that have no more effect on the supposed target than a Federal law that makes felonies illegal.

    The actual target, by any reasonable review of the evidence, is the gun owner or potential gun owner that has never committed a felony, which is precisely why these restrictions are anti-Constitutional.
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