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  • pickenup
    It is OK.
    They are trying to spin this one as "HELPING" people at home.
    They sure "helped themselves" to firearms after Katrina. [:(!]

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

    I have said it before, Bush will go down in the history books as the most destructive president EVER, to our constitutional rights. "IF" anyone gets to write any more history books.

    But then there are those that refuse to take off their rose colored glasses, and think everything is peaches and cream. For them, there is no handwriting on the wall. Our government wouldn't do ANYTHING harmful to it's citizens.

    If this happened 20-30 years ago, it would be a done deal, with no one the wiser. Thanks to the internet, we get to see this coming.

    The question is, WHAT can be done about it?
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  • Juggernaut
    The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act limits the Federal Government from using the military for law enforcement, no matter if the Federal Government thinks that they can just do away with it as far as I am concerned and you all should be as well, I absolutely do not recognize their authority to remove these protections from us and the next step could be the First and Second Amendments. The Federal Government acted carefully but illegally to remove The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act before bringing in the military to police us and obviously they are getting prepared for something much more sinister as there wouldn't be any other reasonable explanation for all of this. I know for a fact that this is going to turn into a fire at a fuel depot and this is just the match to an accident already waiting to happen. Sooner or later there will be an incident or two and then a couple few more and this thing will more than likely turn into an all out insurrection.
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  • Marc1301
    Look at what is taking place in front of us right now,.........I think you have it figured out.
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  • Rocklobster
    It is difficult to imagine our service people opening fire on their own neighbors, but it happens quite often in other countries so I suppose it can happen here.
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  • Juggernaut
    When are people going to realize what is really happening here and make the decision that we may have to go to war here in our own country and prepare themselves to fight and possibly die as opposed to living with a boot heel on your throat and a whip at your back, always remembering when there could have been an insurrection, but that it failed to manifest itself because people were too afraid and to unwilling to take a chance at real freedom and possibly lose what little that they have now.
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  • jpwolf
    You'll get no argument in here Draco.
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  • wsfiredude
    Draco,

    Careful now. When you speak of things that are, in all probability, inevitable, the naysayers who haven't the stomach for the truth will exercise a show of farce to belittle you.
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  • 45long
    I love how people talk about Katrina and still talk about how the military took guns from law abiding citizens. While I don't like the tone of this article, I will say about Katrina. Nobody I knew took guns from law abiding citizens. Nobody I know who was there did that. I know some unit were taking out local insurrgents,(ie. local thugs who were looting homes). But that's it. IF there were rouge military personnel, thats one thing. But I would not lay that label on all.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by 45long
    I love how people talk about Katrina and still talk about how the military took guns from law abiding citizens. While I don't like the tone of this article, I will say about Katrina. Nobody I knew took guns from law abiding citizens. Nobody I know who was there did that. I know some unit were taking out local insurrgents,(ie. local thugs who were looting homes). But that's it. IF there were rouge military personnel, thats one thing. But I would not lay that label on all.
    Long, there IS video proof to the gun grab. Matter of fact, remember the lawsuit to RETURN the weapons to the proper owners?

    Don't doubt what government WILL do to you and yours.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    AmeriKa...the not so great...we are headed down a very bad road...[V][:(!]
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  • jpwolf
    How did the username change from "JDraco" to "Juggernaut"?
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  • 45long
    Freemind,,,,,,,I know I saw NOPD doing it. But I don't recall regular Army personnel doing it. And I know some reg's that were there. And some Special units that were there to quell the looting. That part you didn't see on the news. The guys I know that were in the water, said they weren't taking anything from anyone. Especially thier guns. My son was one of them. He was with an outside SO. He saw NOPD doing some stuff that made him sick. But that military taking guns, he never that happening. I'm not saying that there might have been some going on, but it wasn't wide spread. I know there were looter being taken out and some snipers that were killed by military.
    The majority of that gun grab in N.O. was done by the local Government. Nagen and his corrupt PD.
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  • 45long
    Freemind,,, The lawsuits were agaisnt the City and State I believe.

    Sorry for the ad on but I guess you can't go back and edit posts anymore. That sucks. I get ahead of myself so often that feature was nice.
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  • Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    How did the username change from "JDraco" to "Juggernaut"?

    I had the name changed.
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  • Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    Draco, Careful now. When you speak of things that are, in all probability, inevitable, the naysayers who haven't the stomach for the truth will exercise a show of farce to belittle you.

    Yeah I know, we are few, but we are strong and if they try pulling this on us they will see just how strong. Its not a matter of if we are out gunned as we already are quite extensively aware of this, but its no matter as we will fight if necessary for what we believe in, no one in their right mind wants a fight I know that I certainly do not, although we wont back down either, not to any aggressor domestic or foreign and certainly not to any ridiculous laws that try to illegaly override The Constitution.
    The highest law of the land is the Constitution of the United States. The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute must be in agreement with it to be valid. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail over the other.
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  • 45long
    Several years ago, around the time of Clinton, certain units of the US Military were questioned in a survey about this senario. Would they fire on an armed American Civilian populace or confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens. 75% said no. The units asked were some of the elite. Marine Force Recon, Rangers, Special Forces. Could this be a revisit ? Possibly. At some point there will come a time when US serviceman will simply obey. On the other hand some won't. And some of them will be pilots, tank drivers, ect.ect. Don't it make you want Obama as President?? (yeah right). Because IF he gets in, you will be more than one step closer to that happening. Probably a few leaps closer. So who you guys voting for again????
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  • Highball
    quote:Don't it make you want Obama as President?? (yeah right). Because IF he gets in, you will be more than one step closer to that happening. Probably a few leaps closer. So who you guys voting for again????
    Were Ron Paul not around to write in;
    I would vote for obama.
    You fence sitters need to be forced to chose;

    Subject
    Or
    AMERICAN !!!!
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  • Juggernaut
    I already voted.[:D]
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  • 45long
    Highball,,,, Why would you put the noose around your own neck ?? I know your a die hard Paul guy, but still, to say that IF paul wasn't around, you would vote for the antichrist Obama........It just defies rational thought. I can't understand such thinking. It's like saying "Well I'll show you, then shooting yourself in the head" .
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  • joshmb1982
    i think his logic is to get it overwith. if the hammer falls today it is sure to wake up at least a few more men who are willing to make a stand. and better to get it overwith now then leave it for the children to suffer. i dont have any of my own but i would sell my soul in a heartbeat to keep my neices and nephews fed clothed and a roof over their head.
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  • kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by 45long
    Highball,,,, Why would you put the noose around your own neck ?? I know your a die hard Paul guy, but still, to say that IF paul wasn't around, you would vote for the antichrist Obama........It just defies rational thought. I can't understand such thinking. It's like saying "Well I'll show you, then shooting yourself in the head" .


    anti Christ? lol... I'd put my money on a woman as the anti Christ [:p]
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  • 45long
    Josh,, I sometimes feel that way as well but I would never do it. I have read some on the writings of Nostrdomus,(sp?) and heard about the Mayan calender ending in 2012, and I think it is close but I'm not going to go out and start carrying a sign that says the end is near. I just think it would not do anybody any good to help facilitate or bring about the "end" as we know it. The thing about doing something just to wake people up is that you never know how it's going to end and it would most likely will end very badly. For everyone. Personnally, I would rather fight to prevent it rather than help usher it in and fight against it.

    Kyplumber,,,,,,,,Why would you think that the anti-christ would be a woman? Nothing I have read even hints at that. And I may have been a bit sarcastic in describing Omamalama as such. Though, I do know that a great deal of the writings on the subject have said that the Anti christ would be referrred to as the Mesiah,(sp?). And Obama certainly has been called that by several people. Including Crazy Louie Farrakahn just recently in a speech. Is he ? I don't think so. But the thought of him getting into the Oval Office scares the crap out of me. And if I have to vote for McCain to try and keep him out of that office then I'll do it. Because nothing else will. And for me, any vote not for McCain,( as much as some may not like him), is a vote for the "Mesiah". I would rather NOT take that chance. But everyone is entitled to their right to do as they choose.
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  • joshmb1982
    only way to know for sure how things will turn out is to wait and see. and do as the old motto goes. prepare for the worst and hope for the best. the though of obama in the white house scares the snit out of me as well. but fear can be a good thing. make you sit up and pay attention. and while obama in the white house would surly be disastrous mabye just mabye it would make enough people afraid enough to change something. for better or worse who can tell. anyway. 2012 is just around the corner. if we make it that long the war between heaven and hell will consume us all anyway right. its gonna be an interesting 4 years for sure.
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  • Juggernaut
    Ron Paul would not advocate voting for a third party if he thought that it would be a vote for the goon. A person should vote how they believe, not collectively simply because two worthless parties seem to be controlling things at the moment. If the Holy Scriptures were interpreted correctly concerning prophecy by modern day man (which I personally am a bit wary of, being that it is being interpreted by a man not necessarily ordained or inspired by God Himself) than there could very well be an Anti-Christ as a person; although the Anti-Christ does not necessarily have to be a man, as it could be a country, group of nations, organization, etc, as well. Either way true Christians have nothing to fear as the Holy Scriptures are very clear on that as Christ is our shield.
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  • SigP239carrier
    careful gentlemen, I'm sure this site is under heavy surveillance by the people we are worried about. I hope I'm not being overly paranoid, but I would rather not have my name be put on a watch list. I'm sure you wouldn't either. Good thing we have guns....if we didn't, I'm sure we'd have been taken away by now.
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  • Rockatansky
    quote:Originally posted by SigP239carrier
    careful gentlemen, I'm sure this site is under heavy surveillance by the people we are worried about. I hope I'm not being overly paranoid,


    Pretty sure it is, and you're not being paranoid. It's a little unnerving at times.
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  • Juggernaut
    We are on a list especially if you did anything special in the military and if they wanted us they would come and get us, now they will obviously have a problem with that at least from some of us I hope, as I don't want to end up having to fight them by myself.
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