Sportsmen and Hunters......
Rant on...
I cringe everytime I hear this phrase uttered, and it seems a lot of folks that 'supposedly' support the RTKBA use it rather frequently, including McCain/Palin and the NRA.
This cliche was borne out of anti-liberty propaganda, and was/is used extensively by liberals to pidgeonhole all gun owners into one of two groups; sportsmen or hunters.
I hunt and I target shoot, but dammit, the RTKBA is not a 'sportsman' right, it's not a 'hunter' right, it is a CITIZEN right.
The 'sportsmen and hunters' cliche is nothing more than an attempt to deviate from the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
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Rant off.
I cringe everytime I hear this phrase uttered, and it seems a lot of folks that 'supposedly' support the RTKBA use it rather frequently, including McCain/Palin and the NRA.
This cliche was borne out of anti-liberty propaganda, and was/is used extensively by liberals to pidgeonhole all gun owners into one of two groups; sportsmen or hunters.
I hunt and I target shoot, but dammit, the RTKBA is not a 'sportsman' right, it's not a 'hunter' right, it is a CITIZEN right.
The 'sportsmen and hunters' cliche is nothing more than an attempt to deviate from the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
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Rant off.
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quote:Originally posted by Highball
Why is it so very difficult for you to say.." The Second Amendment is the club with which to beat tyrants to death with... " ???
Yeah, now the party is started.0 -
originally posted by Jim Rau:
Sportsman/hunters/shooters benefit from it, and if they enjoy their recreational use of it they too must support it.
True, Jim, but one does not have to be a sportsman or hunter to exercise his RTKBA. Some gun owners are neither sportsmen or hunters, only citizens that exercise their RTKBA because they do not wish to become a slave.0 -
so what is there to get pizzed off about? is it an insult to call someone a sportsman or a hunter? if joe citizen isnt a hunter or competes in a shooting competition but carries daily becuase he can. hes not a hunter but would still classify as a sportsman no? doesnt going to he range to maintain/improve your abilities constitute sport/recreation? people play basketball, golf, and other sports alone in a non competative nature. what is so bad about them being lumped in with sports? 0 -
quote: sports alone in a non competative nature. what is so bad about them being lumped in with sports?
"Sports" are a trivial part of life. They are meaningless.
By allowing the enemy to place weapons and the access to same on the exact same plane as something meaningless in the scheme of things, they are able to marginalize the single most important tool we have at our disposal to maintain Liberty.
The devotion many people have to 'sports'...and the utter contempt for the Constitution... is a fairly good barometer into the sickness of our times.
The NRA, by the way, back in the Ninties bought into the 'sporting use' nonsense.
The Second never WAS about 'sporting use'..it was...and is...about killing tyrants.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
By allowing the enemy to place weapons and the access to same on the exact same plane as something meaningless in the scheme of things, they are able to marginalize the single most important tool we have at our disposal to maintain Liberty. The devotion many people have to 'sports'...and the utter contempt for the Constitution... is a fairly good barometer into the sickness of our times. The NRA, by the way, back in the Ninties bought into the 'sporting use' nonsense. The Second never WAS about 'sporting use'..it was...and is...about killing tyrants.
Well said Highball.0 -
Josh,
I believe you have misinterpreted the OP.
The point being made was that ALL gun owners have been cast into one of two categories, 'sportsmen' or 'hunters'. This plot, by design, was meant to corrupt folks into thinking that the 2nd Amendment was written only to protect the rights of 'sportsmen' and 'hunters'. Unfortunately, this sinister plan has worked, as some gun owners and organizations have bought into that philosophy.
As has already been stated in this thread by some fine men, the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting deer. It is not about competitive shooting. It is not about carrying a concealed pistol or revolver to effect your defense against criminals. The 2nd Amendment, as written by the Founders, was designed to ensure the demise of tyranny and those who practice it. Period.0 -
quote:The NRA, by the way, back in the Ninties bought into the 'sporting use' nonsense.
The Second never WAS about 'sporting use'..it was...and is...about killing tyrants.
Yep, read the second many many times and have never found the line about duck hunting....0 -
HB,
I did say what you said, but without all the silly ranting and screaming. Are you related to Billy Mays???[;)]0 -
There was no ranting or screaming and I seriously doubt that he is related to Billy Mays as Billy Mays was tasered and captured and he is being re-educated in libraries in America to not yell at the American public anymore. 0 -
Lighten up Jarhead! HB and I have been kicking each other around for quit a while. Did you not see the [;)][;)][;)] 0 -
Use my name or dont bother. 0 -
I won't bother if:
1. You are that thin skinned.
2. You don't consider it a good thing to be a jarhead![:(!]
So at your request I will ignore you, bye,bye!0 -
No, skin has nothing to do with it as I have actually been shot, stabbed, cut, clubbed, gassed, attacked by wild animals and swarms of yellowjackets and even had to cut myself and then sew it and so believe that my skin is tough enough, don't you worry about it.
As concerning the name, you are not a Marine and are therefore not entitled to it and fyi we normally use the term DevilDog and sometimes JarHead, but as for the username I will spell it for you: Juggernaut.
I earned the title of Marine and was in the 3/3 Expeditionary Force, not JarHead, at least get your facts straight.
I never made such a request, but it works for me and probably everyone else here as you and those like you are not one of us.
And again I no longer work for the gov sponsored military.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut
No, skin has nothing to do with it as I have actually been shot, stabbed, cut, clubbed, gassed, attacked by wild animals and swarms of yellowjackets and even had to cut myself and then sew it and so believe that my skin is tough enough, don't you worry about it.
Sounds like you don't get along with others very well. [8D]0 -
No, actually I get along with others just fine normally at least I try to (I didn't intend to say all of that and I think that I was just being blunt to the troll is all) and while most of that occurred while in the Military, my background including the Military, is Law Enforcement and Corrections and I am also a very outdoors person and camp, fish, hike, hunt, scuba, etc. 0 -
What exactly defines a Sportsman/Hunter?
Sure I've been squirrel huntin before
But does that mean I'm a hunter?
And about sportsmen, wouldnt a Football player be considered
a Sportsman?
He's playing a sport, and He is a man
i mean, I just like the power and fell of shooting a gun
Its just plain out fun [:D]
so what exactly is a Hunter/Sportsman?0
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