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I cannot believe China

Sam06
Has let this Hong Kong protest and riot go on this long.

I think they are about to put a stop to it soon especially with the students holed up in the university.

With all the impeachment crap there is very little news about what is going on in the world.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7698183/Students-stage-daring-escape-Hong-Kong-university-amid-fears-police-crackdown.html

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Fears of a Tiananmen Square-style massacre grew in Hong Kong on Tuesday as up to 200 pro-democracy protesters remained trapped on a university campus as a standoff with police entered its third day.

Carrie Lam, the embattled chief executive of Hong Kong, urged those inside Hong Kong Polytechnic University to put down their weapons and come out, warning 'surrender is your only option'.

Police have already said they would be willing to use live ammunition against the protesters if the situation becomes 'uncontrollable', as anxious parents waiting outside the campus for their children to come out said they feared a massacre.

One mother in her 50s, whose surname is Chan and whose 18-year-old son remains on campus, said: 'I'm worried when the police go in to attack there will be heavy casualties, a Tiananmen 2.0.'

Activists desperate to avoid bloodshed but fearing arrest by the police staged increasingly bold escape attempts. Several people were pictured lowering themselves into the campus sewer system in order to get away.

It comes after several dozen students escaped by clambering down ropes from a bridge on campus on to a motorway below, before being taken away on motorbikes on Monday night.


If you open the link there are some photos of these people really having out with the police. I am really surprised the Police have restrained them selves as much as they have.
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  • Warbirds
    If they take a bullet or get shipped to a Chinese prison the end result is the same.

    Damn shame the entire world is content to sit on the sidelines and watch.
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  • drobs
    What these students don't want to become Chinese Communists?
    They are fighting for their freedom from Communism - I think we should be helping them.
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  • pulsarnc
    This will not end well for the protesters. The Chinese government will not surrender on this .
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  • Sam06
    pulsarnc wrote:
    This will not end well for the protesters. The Chinese government will not surrender on this .


    I agree and the US isn't going to do jack and PO the ChiComs.

    Too bad but the time to have done something was 20 years ago.
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  • bambihunter
    drobs wrote:
    What these students don't want to become Chinese Communists?
    They are fighting for their freedom from Communism - I think we should be helping them.

    The irony is so many young people, especially the educated idiot types, want socialism here in the USA. :roll:
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  • bustedknee
    drobs wrote:
    ....I think we should be helping them.
    ??????????????????????

    I not picking on you but I hear this from lots of people.

    Is that really what is happening?

    Since the media is not to be trusted I did some research on my own.

    Hong Kongers consider themselves "better" (or at least "different") than the rest of China. Therefore their laws protect them should they break a law outside of Hong Kong then return to Hong Kong before they are apprehended. They cannot be extradited to anywhere else in China.
    This would be like NYC having a law that says Yorkies are exempt from U.S. laws and are safe as long as they remain in that city. They could rob a 7-11 in Virginia or even Albany and be protected from exradition.

    China has changed their laws to bring all their people under one set of laws but their snowflakes are screaming about loosing their freedoms and want other countries to come to their aid.

    I suggest we send them Bernie with AOC under one arm and Pelosie under the other arm and Hillary stuffed up his exhaust....with just her butt hanging out. (Is there a cartoonist on this board that could draw this for me?)

    In other words, China has an internal issue and the U.S. should stay out of it and even quit reporting on it.

    How would we respond if China tried to meddle in our internal issues?

    Am I wrong or am I just a cantankerous old fart?
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  • Sam06
    Another thing I find intresting is the weapons the Police are using. Almost all are US weapons, Remington 870's and M16A1's. They also have S&W revolvers, they look like M10's with 4" barrels. I have yet to see the ChiComm's new bullpup rifle, AK's or their SA pistols.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    It is not our position, to interfere with China's Internal issues.

    We should not be in the position, of being the worlds Policeman/Problem Solver. (Look where that has gotten us in the last 30-40 years.)

    We seem to have enough issues/problems dealing with our own internal struggles.

    Let them deal with theirs.

    We have our own to deal with.

    Not our Country, not our struggle.






    Flame on.
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  • Sam06
    I agree. It would start a big fight. We would win in the end but it would be ugly.

    The ChiComms really can't do anything to hurt the US except to Nuke us and they know we would nuke them back twice as hard. The ChiComms cannot project power..............YET. They are working on it by building Air Craft Carriers and large warships along with upgrading the Lift of their Air Force. But they are not even close to the US.

    I believe the People of hong Kong are going to get it shoved in and broke off here is the next few weeks.

    Like I said I cannot believe its gone on this long. When they turn off the internet and wifi/cable, shut down wireless service and kick out the media you know it will be on and the world will never know how many get disappeared either into a hole or a work camp.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Feel bad for them. (But) Not our issue, not our problem.

    We have enough to deal with domestically.

    Concentrate on America.
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  • Sam06
    Yep they are in a world of hurt.

    Did you see the pictures of the protesters shoot at the police with Bows? There was a picture of a cop with an arrow in his leg :o

    I am surprised guns haven't come out of the wood work.
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  • bambihunter
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:
    It is not our position, to interfere with China's Internal issues.

    We should not be in the position, of being the worlds Policeman/Problem Solver. (Look where that has gotten us in the last 30-40 years.)

    We seem to have enough issues/problems dealing with our own internal struggles.

    Let them deal with theirs.

    We have our own to deal with.

    Not our Country, not our struggle.

    We are in complete agreement there. I think all that has happened by the US becoming the worlds police is that many more nations/peoples hate us than previously, and we have spent a LOT of US money and lives protecting those who often do not want us there anyway. Largely it is a lose - lose situation.
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  • hillbille
    to me Hong Kong is just china's california they are part of the country but don't want to play by the rules, they think they know better and want to play by their own rules they make up........as per china, it is THEIR country they should be able to do as they need to enforce their laws
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  • bambihunter
    hillbille wrote:
    to me Hong Kong is just china's california

    :mrgreen: So they are China's red-headed step-child. :mrgreen: Much like California is the bastard child the US doesn't want.
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  • 11b6r
    Anybody remember "Occupy Wall Street"? How would you feel if Belgium decided that the protestors- and the folks smashing windows out of stores in NYC were being oppressed, and sent forces to aid them?

    You would probably feel that Belgium should keep their hands off that which does not involve them- and I would agree with you.
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  • spasmcreek
    china will build up the Silk Road trade routes all over the world leading to china while we decide who gets to use what bathroom...then they will become the worlds currency..while dempos & repubs sling snot at each other.....AMERICA better wake up and MOVE ^^^^^^^^^^^
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  • drobs
    bustedknee wrote:
    drobs wrote:
    ....I think we should be helping them.
    ??????????????????????

    I not picking on you but I hear this from lots of people.

    Is that really what is happening?

    Since the media is not to be trusted I did some research on my own.

    Hong Kongers consider themselves "better" (or at least "different") than the rest of China. Therefore their laws protect them should they break a law outside of Hong Kong then return to Hong Kong before they are apprehended. They cannot be extradited to anywhere else in China.
    This would be like NYC having a law that says Yorkies are exempt from U.S. laws and are safe as long as they remain in that city. They could rob a 7-11 in Virginia or even Albany and be protected from exradition.

    China has changed their laws to bring all their people under one set of laws but their snowflakes are screaming about loosing their freedoms and want other countries to come to their aid.

    I suggest we send them Bernie with AOC under one arm and Pelosie under the other arm and Hillary stuffed up his exhaust....with just her butt hanging out. (Is there a cartoonist on this board that could draw this for me?)

    In other words, China has an internal issue and the U.S. should stay out of it and even quit reporting on it.

    How would we respond if China tried to meddle in our internal issues?

    Am I wrong or am I just a cantankerous old fart?

    Of course there is no easy way to help them.
    But I'd rather point that out then root for the Chinese which our liberal media is doing.
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  • brier-49
    Maybe the UK should step up to help !!
    That would make sense.
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  • Sam06
    Well the Police have 50 or so protesters bottled up in the university they took over a few days ago. All the others either escaped or have been arrested. The ones they can ID as being in the riots will get 10 years mandatory.

    The 50 or so left will get the farm. They have made Molotov cocktails and are armed with Bow and arrows. I guess they plan to fight it out to the end.

    China today warned the US to not interfere. Beijing today said 'Don't say we didn't warn you!' to the US. The Senate passed a bill supporting the protesters and will place more sanctions on China if they get too violent with the rioters.


    Like stated above I don't think we should interfere but................those people are screwed.
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    Sam06 wrote:
    The 50 or so left will get the farm. They have made Molotov cocktails and are armed with Bow and arrows. I guess they plan to fight it out to the end.

    They have my utmost respect, for they are true patriots. They are willing to do what most in this country are not. Take note, they are not writing letters to their congress person............
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  • grdad45
    Not our circus, not our monkey! We have been meddling in other countries' affairs for far too long!
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    grdad45 wrote:
    Not our circus, not our monkey! We have been meddling in other countries' affairs for far too long!




    +1 Sir.
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  • mrmike08075
    While China is still on the rise - the fall and decline are coming.

    Chinese money is made because it has a massive cheap labor force - it has people.

    Or it used to.

    Their population bomb is ticking - the population is getting older - male birth or survival outstrips female numbers - the birth rate has dropped below one replacement child for each couple..

    They put incentives in and eased restrictions to promote growth and stabilization but no luck.

    There costs to manufacture is rising - they simply steal your design and clone it cheaply in a manner nobody can compete with...

    Their infrastructure looks great cause it's brand new - think it was done right and will last as long as ours did???

    What are they going to do for the vast wave of elderly folk who can't or don't want to work anymore - how do you pay for their healthcare and other benefits...

    Soon you will have less than (say by 2050) one worker for each non worker - it cannot be sustained.

    Instead of developing such programs and social changes gradually it will come all at once like a sledgehammer.

    Yes they own our debt and make our stuff and control the Panama canal and spend massive amounts of money on their military and are dominating their sphere of influence...

    But for how long.

    Steel and tires and televisions will be made again in this country - the best in the world.

    It's a pendulum.

    Mike
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  • Sam06
    I cannot believe the Chinese people will keep putting up with the ChiComm Government's human rights abuse. The forced labor camps and sweat shops like Apple runs along with the re-education camps they are putting the muslims through plus the crap going on in Tibet and Hong Kong has got to come to a head at some point.

    I have a good friend who's son works in China and loves the place. I am sure it is different for him than for the regular Chinese citizen. He got his eyes opened when he was a at party where someone smoked grass, the cops busted the party and arrested everyone. He had a few tense days but they figured out who was smoking grass and let him go. The ChiComm Government has a ZERO tolerance on drug use and possession.
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  • mrmike08075
    There was a point around 1977 were the Chinese began executing anybody involved with the drug trade - even habitual users I am told...

    After killing some ungodly number over the course of a few years they eased the police in 1985 or so just herding users into labor and reeducation camps...

    Still better then north Korea - currently better then Argentina - Mexico is run by the cartels now...

    It's all relative - we have strayed far from the constitution and declaration and Bill of rights and original intent ourselves - we are getting worse.

    Still the Chinese policy did curb drug problems or drive them deeper underground - out of built up urban areas - unless your rich or party elite

    Mike
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  • Sam06
    Look what Duarte is doing in the Philippines.

    They are killing drug uses and deals by the dozens. It is officially sanctioned murder...................but its better than what is happening to Mexico.

    China does not mess around and as I said before I cannot believe the ChiComm Government has let this go on for this long.
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  • droptop
    drobs wrote:
    What these students don't want to become Chinese Communists?
    They are fighting for their freedom from Communism - I think we should be helping them.
    The U.S. has made that mistake plenty of times in the last 75 years.
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