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  • hillbille
    glad to see they were used as intended and not safe queened, if they are authentic even the real world price would be out of my price range.
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  • toad67
    Wonder how he came up with his opening price?? Guess you have to start somewhere..
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  • Grasshopper
    Why am I so leery of things like that? Six pictures won't do it and Winchester would have to be involved for a serious purchaser, imo.
    At least he will take installments. :lol:
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  • mrmike08075
    The best place to sell these is one of the major auction houses with published hard copy catalogues previewing the rifles - and placing several articles in leading trade publications...

    Serial number 1 and 2 being shipped to a hardware store for general sale seems unlikely - almost impossible...

    For 50+ years someone not realizing they were special or important or valuable is beyond comprehension...

    These guns not going on a show circuit or being presented to a dignitary or being pumped up and announced in ads and magazines seems impossible...

    I love both guns and embrace their current condition in all respects...

    I don't think the combo would net beyond mid six figures as offered - but what do I know...

    I get that the records - normal records are missing but Winchester has no photos or ephemera on two such ground breaking important rifles - patently absurd.

    There would have been much fanfare - and much documentation and exposure.

    It cannot all be lost.

    Color me confused or ill prepared and uneducated.

    School me.

    Mike
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    toad67 wrote:
    Wonder how he came up with his opening price?? Guess you have to start somewhere..

    I think he pulled it out of his behind, but you never know. While totally cool, and if they are authentic they will bring a handsome price for sure. But a million and three quarters? Well I don't know about that.........
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  • Sam06
    Extra holes in the receiver.

    :lol::lol:

    Seriously though that is a lot of cake for 2 guns. I think I would split them up and sell them individually and I would try to provide more provenance maybe through some "Experts" or from the Cody museum.

    Nice looking old rifles though and I too am glad they were out there hunting.
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  • mark christian
    I'd be interested, but I'm currently locked in a bidding war over Dale Earnhardt's lawnmower. The guy I'm bidding against already has Dale Sr.'s edger, so I can't allow him to complete the set.
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  • hillbille
    I'd be interested, but I'm currently locked in a bidding war over Dale Earnhardt's lawnmower. The guy I'm bidding against already has Dale Sr.'s edger, so I can't allow him to complete the set.

    you can't outbid selectfire?????? we have faith in you, you can dooooooo it........
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  • Grasshopper
    I'd be interested, but I'm currently locked in a bidding war over Dale Earnhardt's lawnmower. The guy I'm bidding against already has Dale Sr.'s edger, so I can't allow him to complete the set.

    Is the gas cap signed? If it is and another 10k to the price.
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    I'd be interested, but I'm currently locked in a bidding war over Dale Earnhardt's lawnmower. The guy I'm bidding against already has Dale Sr.'s edger, so I can't allow him to complete the set.

    Yeah, but how much car wax ya got?
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  • bambihunter
    1.7 million bucks, and provides a whopping 8 photographs.

    I have no clue what they'd actually sell for, but that sure seems way overboard. I'd think it'd be a long shot at half that price but what do I know? I would say that I would have tried contacting Winchester first to see if they were interested as well as get a few Winchester expert opinions documented as well. For all we know, they could have recycled the serial numbers though the proof steel language on the barrel definitely looks 30's.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    bambihunter wrote:
    1.7 million bucks, and provides a whopping 8 photographs.

    I have no clue what they'd actually sell for, but that sure seems way overboard. I'd think it'd be a long shot at half that price but what do I know? I would say that I would have tried contacting Winchester first to see if they were interested as well as get a few Winchester expert opinions documented as well. For all we know, they could have recycled the serial numbers though the proof steel language on the barrel definitely looks 30's.


    Your voice of reason/rationality, completely/totaly intrudes on this auction.

    WTH, is wrong with you?
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  • bambihunter
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:
    bambihunter wrote:
    1.7 million bucks, and provides a whopping 8 photographs.

    I have no clue what they'd actually sell for, but that sure seems way overboard. I'd think it'd be a long shot at half that price but what do I know? I would say that I would have tried contacting Winchester first to see if they were interested as well as get a few Winchester expert opinions documented as well. For all we know, they could have recycled the serial numbers though the proof steel language on the barrel definitely looks 30's.


    Your voice of reason/rationality, completely/totally intrudes on this auction.

    WTH, is wrong with you?

    Sorry, I'll try to refrain myself in the future. ;)
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  • jimdeere
    If they?re worth that, what?s numbers 3 and 4 worth?
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  • Ricci Wright
    I find it surprising that Winchester would have sold the first model 70.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Ricci Wright wrote:
    I find it surprising that Winchester would have sold the first model 70.

    My thoughts exactly, on first reading this.
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  • mrmike08075
    :( nobody reads my posts...

    Mike
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  • Don McManus
    mrmike08075 wrote:
    :( nobody reads my posts...

    Mike

    I read it, Mike.

    Don
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  • pulsarnc
    I am with Mike on this one . Something this important just doesn?t end ups on GB. Also can?t believe that Winchester let the very first produced rifle out the door . Seem like a lot of the story doesn?t make sense. Would have to have a heck of a lot more info to even consider bidding on them ,assuming I was that rich
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  • NeoBlackdog
    I was going to place a bid but then noticed that they're both chambered for .30-06. Pfffttt!
    Had they been chambered .270 Winchester I'd own 'em. ;):lol:
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  • montanajoe
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    Cartod would bid,,,
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    NeoBlackdog wrote:
    I was going to place a bid but then noticed that they're both chambered for .30-06. Pfffttt!
    Had they been chambered .270 Winchester I'd own 'em. ;):lol:

    Nobody uses bumper jacks anymore, so why in the world would you need a 270? :shock: :shock: :lol::lol:
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  • mrmike08075
    The first and second production pieces - serial number one and two both being shipped out and sold seemingly at random with no fanfare - both being used quite a bit and now appearing to be in almost identical condition - both separate yet seeing the same use and nobody noticing over the decades that they were special items - now being surreptitiously reunited and being sold together - not through a major auction house - not written up in the American rifleman - not in the hands of a known collector or expert - nearly two million dollars for the by now amount - a total of 8 pictures...

    Something just seems off or a bit out of place to me.

    The narrative just does not fit - that dog don't hunt.

    Many warning flags pop up and my spider sense is tingling.

    I think that given an hour of net research and a few questions on a few select forums I could find out more than this guy knows...

    I think that many of you could do better.

    I am curious but cautious.

    Mike
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  • Butchdog2
    Real good chance rifles like that went to a high ranking person in the Winchester circle, maybe president or design engineer.
    I have a pair of 9422's that have very low numbers with a letter from previous owner, he was the design engineer that worked on the development of the rifles and later became CEO of the company.
    Nice rifles but the price is way too high. My 2 cents.
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  • droptop
    I'd be interested, but I'm currently locked in a bidding war over Dale Earnhardt's lawnmower. The guy I'm bidding against already has Dale Sr.'s edger, so I can't allow him to complete the set.

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  • Warbirds
    Even if the pedigree could be locked down without a doubt, I can?t imagine how much money I would have to have in order to spend 1.7 million on two rifles. Run of the mill bolt actions no less.

    Honestly- If I could drop 1.7 MILLION on the two rifles I could probably afford to buy Winchester as a company in whole.
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  • He Dog
    montanajoe wrote:
    Cartod would bid,,,



    Sure, but would he pay?
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  • He Dog
    I am skeptical to say the very least. :lol:
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