Cheap little 410 ending In minutes
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around here it would be a good buy, but add 45 shipping and 25-35 transfer and that $175 is more than it is worth....... don't mean to be insulting to you casey ............. 0 -
No worries at all.....completely understand!
We get the shipping cost by running an average each year. We take the total paid to USPS and the number of labels made, the cost of the long gun shipping boxes we have made, rolls of packing paper, and get a "per box" number. We don't have anywhere near the time or energy to go back and forth with each buyer to get the shipping costs, so we just put an average cost on each thing as a flat fee on every box we ship.
This one was only at $40 when I made the plug. I figured if it were under $100 someone here might want to know about it.0 -
The wood might be salvaged and cleaned up - refinished by someone with the time and skill...
We used to have a retired gent local (the stock doctor) who had an old duplicating machine and he would turn out some amazing wood furniture from what were factory seconds or flawed or knotted or scraps and remnants / leftovers...
I had a hardware store private label 28 gauge side by side with a tenite brown synthetic plastic stock set done by him on the cheap out of a claro XXX walnut remnant that was labeled as having inclusions and sap wood and a prominent knot - he turned out an amazing piece of wood for it...
The barrels had been cut down to 24" but with the new wood it looked spectacular and locked up tight as a vault - I have never figured out a reasonable use or purpose for the gun - believe it or not we installed a red dot optic on top and it was used as a home defense shotgun loaded with birds shot first and buck shot second (fiocchi paper hulls)
A .410 single shot break open with some age on it can be a perfect winter project piece - a razor blade and blue wonder and some ATF fluid would remove and abate and stop the spot creep rust...
I bet any number of you gents could reproduce the wood for this gun yourselves pretty easily - and it would make a terrific first afield youth hunt gun for a youngster - good for squirrel and pests and such...
A good solid project piece IMHO.
At least up here in the northeast .410's and 28's always command attention and are desirable commodities...
You most likely would never get your money back but it would be worth the time and effort.
As a dealer in the gunshop days I would most likely have acquired it for under $50.00 and might spend another $50.00 sprucing it up.
You may disagree with me - I just think its an often overlooked gem of a gun.
It sold for about what it's worth retail - but I understand people being shy due to taxes and shipping and transfer costs...
Kudos to locust fork pushing a low end project gun - they still have life left in them and I think most of us would have jumped on it if all in the cost was under $100.00
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then little low end rifle an shot guns are some of my best movers at times. Seams like a bargain price has to be under 150 out the door at some of the gun shows. others under 100. I keep one rack marked with just a sign Bargain. 0 -
Some beaters and bargains and low end guns can be hidden gems...
After I bought my first Argentine Mauser in 7.65mm - an all numbers matching pristine sniper rifle - I managed to acquire approx. 5000 rounds of nice mint late production military FMJ Ball ammo loose packed in cans...
I figure as long as I live I will never run out of ammo - and we are not even counting commercial stuff - or considering brass for reloading purposes...
So then I picked up an engineers carbine - with full length wood and one of those heavy nose caps and a saddle ring - again all matching and very nice.
Neither of these guns were cheap - I did okay and got dealers wholesale pricing and bulk discounts from SARCO so I did okay - but neither variant can be had cheaply.
Since I tend to buy in threes - I tool a risk on a full length rifle that was missing the top wood and had the fore end cut back - exposing the free floating barrel in someone's attempt to start making a sporter or hunting rifle...
The bolt did not match - was not numbered to the receiver but otherwise the rifle was pristine - perfect bore and muzzle crown and such...
Found it at a gun show in a national guard armory near Philadelphia - on the table of a dealer I had done business with before...
He had $99.00 on the tag - I talked him down to $69.99
I traded him a .70-150 Winchester round and a .700 nitro Express round (custom bespoke hand loads) along with a single .577-450 martini Henry round...
My intentions were to specialize it or put it back to MIL spec configuration - possibly a long eye relief forward of the receiver mount scout scope stalking piece with the barrel cut down to say 22" or 24" (a range day beater or an expedient loaner for hunting purposes / a camp or truck or cabin gun)
To my amazement it's one of the most accurate rifles I own - will put a 20 round box of ammo into a 1.5" group at 100 yds with military iron battle sights from a sand bagged bench rest...
Literally amazing 3 or 5 round groups when being careful and doing things right...
It was so impressive I left it as found - changing nothing - lest I disturb it's magic.
I did buy a pair of drop in triggers and a scout scope mount and base and a trigger shoe but never installed them...
I have considered installing redfieild match target sights - Olympic competition style front and rear sights one mounted on a Winchester model 52 - that's still an option that I think would make the gun better for range day target shooting and skill honing practice - through that would pretty much rule out using it for hunting...
A ridiculous bargain that played out in my favor.
I could not have lost money on it - so why not give it a try.
I know you guys have picked up such bargains and still search for them at shows and shops alike - I bet some of you have picked up some special oddities on the cheap that way.
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I see all kinds of "rats" with potential. If I had any talent at all I'd save some of these things and put them up for sale once they were dealt with.
I've seen things that just needed a good scrubbing and they'd be worth double what they appear to be at first glance. I just don't have time to do much more than wipe things down. I've asked people to send me their after pictures once they've finished a project I've sold them. I'm sure I'll be this weird old lady that buys junkers from guns stores and buffs the heck out of things because my vision is so bad.0 -
My father made quite a bit of folding and fun money cleaning up estate sale and neglected firearms for the gunshop back in the day...
Often never taking cash payment just taking home guns and ammo instead.
I can't tell you how many guns we took in that would not work or function or appeared broken that simply needed to be field or detail stripped and cleaned - lubricates - or had a simple part missing or reinstalled wrong...
Take down guides and exploded views and diagrams and gun specific forums and patience solved many problems...
And a freshly cleaned gun wiped down and smelling of hoppes #9 always sells better in a face to face shop setting sale...
I bet you could find a retired gent or lady - a veteran - who would clean things up fairly cheap if given a shop discount and the chance to acquire some guns at an insider or wholesaler family discount price...
Not a gunsmith but a parts swapped and careful person with some mechanical skills...
It was a win win for the shop and my father - kept him busy and active and made the shop more money...
Mike0
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