what are some off-brand ammo mfrs
we got
Georgia Arms
Freedom Munitions
Black Hills
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what else is there?
Georgia Arms
Freedom Munitions
Black Hills
...
what else is there?
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Defender brand out of N.C.
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they look good. they have a wide selection of calibers.
the 180 gr .40 is rated at 970 ft/s out of a 4" bbl which is average. they have 165 and 180 FMJ, but the JHP only comes in 180 grain. on the other hand it's loaded with Berry's Bullets bonded JHP. the picture of an expanded bullet is reminiscent of PMC Starfire. that's interesting.
the .357SIG is loaded with a 124 grain bullet, which is probably a .355" 9mm bullet and not really constructed for .357SIG power.
they give you a choice between new brass or remanufactured for whatever loading. prices are good for the new brass.0 -
I wouldn't consider Black Hills an "off brand". 0 -
Underwood 0 -
Idahobound wrote:
Really like their ammo,,,0 -
Warbirds garage... 0 -
Mobuck wrote:I wouldn't consider Black Hills an "off brand".
Perhaps not huge, but definitely not "off brand." Nor in my view is Grizzly. Serious handgun hunting and bear loads among other things.
Gad Ammunition loads some old stuff.0 -
Warbirds wrote:Warbirds garage...
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Minuteman Ammo
Double Tap
Buffalo Bore0 -
Atlanta Ammo ????? 0 -
for some of the hard to find chamberings. Precision carthage 0 -
yeah, Black Hills isn't "off-brand", they have been around for at least 35 years and they make high quality match grade rifle ammo along with pistol ammo. I guess I should have said "lesser known". not everybody has heard of them. surprisingly many people (gun noobs) haven't heard of Cor-Bon, Underwood or Double Tap either. just one of those things. 0 -
Cornflk1 wrote:Atlanta Ammo ?????
Atlanta Arms. atlantaarms.com. looks good. they cater to USPSA shooters, GSSF, etc. aware of their needs.0 -
ruger41 wrote:Minuteman Ammo
very interesting. hot and mild loadings. Speer Gold Dot, XTP, Ranier and Montana Gold. velocities measured with actual pistols. .357SIG loaded with real deal 125 gr, does 1606 out of a G35. okay they have my attention.
they don't do FMJ though.0 -
Black Butterfly
Alexander Arms
cap tech-jamisons0 -
their website is down. http://www.bvac-ammo.comGreatGuns wrote:Bvac, Inc. (Bitterroot Valley Ammunition Corp) just South of us in Florence, Montana. They even produced .22 LR when NOBODY offered it. Good folks.
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oh yeah, Doc had so much ammo it broke the shelving. iirc he had to use angle iron to hold it upHorse Plains Drifter wrote:0 -
they got all the calibers. they list the ft/s, looks a little warm, but they won't give the velocity for the "Hollow Point/Extreme Terminal Performance" stuff. okay.Idahobound wrote:0 -
doesn't say how to buy their ammo. but they have Private Labeling for your own brand if you want.Idahobound wrote:0 -
He Dog wrote:Mobuck wrote:I wouldn't consider Black Hills an "off brand".
Perhaps not huge, but definitely not "off brand." Nor in my view is Grizzly. Serious handgun hunting and bear loads among other things.
they list a lot of ammo, but they don't show it. no pics.
if you're interested in that type of ammo, you would probably want to check out Garrett Cartridges too.0 -
oh yeah, Doc had so much ammo it broke the shelving. iirc he had to use angle iron to hold it upbuschmaster wrote:
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I seem to recall that it was Doc's engineering upon assembly that caused the shelves to collapse.0 -
savage170 wrote:Black Butterfly
Alexander Arms
cap tech-jamisons
Black Butterfly only comes in .458 SOCOM and .450 Bushmaster. their website is down but it is sold at other resellers.
Alexander Arms only makes .50 Beowulf ammo, and probably because... they designed the cartridge.
Jamieson Brass & Ammo (Captech International), they are something to look at. many common cartridges and obscure stuff such as 40-60 Winchester. with an Old West style label.
using .40 as a yardstick again, their .40 JHP 180 grain is loaded with Montana Gold and claims to run 1075 out of a 4" barrel. that's KB-hot if you have the wrong barrel. very good if your pistola can handle it. intriguing. I like the labels.
says "loaded with outsourced brass". that, along with the low prices, leads me to believe it's remanufactured.0 -
I have some black butterfly in 45-70 and 500 S&W and alexander Arms 6.5 grendelbuschmaster wrote:savage170 wrote:Black Butterfly
Alexander Arms
cap tech-jamisons
Black Butterfly only comes in .458 SOCOM and .450 Bushmaster. their website is down but it is sold at other resellers.
Alexander Arms only makes .50 Beowulf ammo, and probably because... they designed the cartridge.
Jamieson Brass & Ammo (Captech International), they are something to look at. many common cartridges and obscure stuff such as 40-60 Winchester. with an Old West style label.
using .40 as a yardstick again, their .40 JHP 180 grain is loaded with Montana Gold and claims to run 1075 out of a 4" barrel. that's KB-hot if you have the wrong barrel. very good if your pistola can handle it. intriguing. I like the labels.
says "loaded with outsourced brass". that, along with the low prices, leads me to believe it's remanufactured.0 -
buschmaster wrote:Cornflk1 wrote:Atlanta Ammo ?????
Atlanta Arms. atlantaarms.com. looks good. they cater to USPSA shooters, GSSF, etc. aware of their needs.
The bad thing about Atlanta Ammo is the fact that the only way it'll fire is if you hold your gun sideways.0 -
lol ought to send an e-mail to their tech dept. about that0 -
Ventura Munitions isn't found on gun store shelves that I've seen but they do produce good ammo. 0 -
There was a company around a few years back,and they may still be around,called Death Ray Cartridge Company that loaded what must have been maximum load hunting ammo. 0 -
remington golden 22lr......BIG dealer i know bought a truckload...had so many duds and unhappy customers he sent it all back 0
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