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Another 500 year Flood In Southeast Texas!

serf
Yep, all those houses that home builders put into place on flood plains'/rice fields is destroying Houston Texas! Do not move here!
The minority Government here is inept and does not have a solution! Get out stay out and do not come here in Height of Hurricane season. I think this is the fourth 500-year floods in the last 5 years!

serf

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/762301674/major-catastrophic-flooding-in-southeast-texas-from-imelda-weather-service-warns

Major, catastrophic flooding is occurring across much of southeast Texas," the National Weather Service says, warning that Tropical Depression Imelda is producing extreme rainfall. With more intense rain in the forecast, the agency says, some areas could see rain totals of 30 to 40 inches through Friday
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  • yoshmyster
    I wonder how many were Californians? Fled the tyrannical government, wild fires and earthquake only to learn what water can do.
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  • spasmcreek
    seems nuts to keep building back in the same low area that floods....again and again ..now some say it is dangerous to live on the plains subject to tornadoes....but seldom does one follow the same path.....one good thing here is we are far enuff from a taco bell to be tempted
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  • bambihunter
    serf wrote:
    I think this is the fourth 500-year floods in the last 5 years!
    serf

    Time flies when you're having fun :lol:
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  • truthful
    Here in Colorado, we have a 100 or 500 year flood about every 30 years washing out a major canyon road. Then it takes about 29 years to rebuild it.
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  • mogley98
    I would counter that a large number of homes that have flooded have nothing to do with low lying areas, I might even bet that if any of you saw 5 feet of rain in a day no matter where you are you would flood.
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  • serf
    mogley98 wrote:
    I would counter that a large number of homes that have flooded have nothing to do with low lying areas, I might even bet that if any of you saw 5 feet of rain in a day no matter where you are you would flood.

    In a flat overbuilt Areas and having under groundwater subsidence then you need to be higher then the next guy next door! The Homebuilders look for cheap rice land that no longer able to pump well water to make money. Believe it or not, here In Houston Texas they have sold out the uninformed public for wealth. Cars and flooded streets are everywhere because of inadequate drainage.The city government here is useless and inept being bought off by lobbyist and dumb civil right groups.

    serf
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  • kimi
    Jefferson county (Beaumont county seat) has had over 40 inches in three days. Weatherman stated yesterday that one area had 6 inches of rain in one hour, and that no sewer system in the world could handle that.
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  • jimdeere
    By contrast, we have had less than an inch since the weekend after July 4. No measurable rain in the last six weeks and none in the foreseeable future. Burn bans in effect. Hunting season in jeopardy.
    Cattlemen been feeding hay for a month, usually don?t start feeding until November.
    Wells and streams going dry.
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  • bambihunter
    That is for sure Kimi. My mother in law used to live around a mile from a little creek that was basically dry most of the year except a few frog holes. They had 15" of ran in 12 hours, with ~4" of it within a single hour and it flooded her house 4' deep. They estimate she was around 35' vertical from the lip of the ravine and of course the mile from the creek.
    I was never good at math but I did the math anyway and calculated that 35 feet up x 5280 feet across = a crapload of water. :!: :?: :idea: That is not even figuring in how far upstream and downstream it was up.
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  • serf
    Houston Texas must change it's building codes and start building houses in flood plans on piles with piers.We have no zoning down here and it's destroying the public trust in Businesses that could care less to begin with!

    How long is the cheap Flood insurance and buyouts going last with the government spending trillions elsewhere? I have a relative that has been flooded out four times in less than 6 years! The Builders and developers with the county governments knew & they could care less until after the fact.

    I would walk and file bankruptcy and deal in cash and have it all collapse on the Banks that run this scam to begin with.

    serf
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  • Mobuck
    "I think this is the fourth 500-year floods in the last 5 years!"

    Time goes fast when (fill in the blank).
    All sorts of human intervention has unforeseen circumstances. A tree trunk was inadvertently incorporated into a creek levee(mostly guess work but it's a viable guess) and 20 years later flood water finds the cavity left by the now rotted wood and breaches that levee. A large area of farmland fills with water as the next levee strains to hold the water in(it was designed to hold water OUT) and then that levee blows out. Like flushing a toilet millions and millions of gallons of water roll across the next mile of farmland wiping out or inundating everything in the path. Water 4' deep tears through places that had never been flooded since Noah had a boat. The devastation will take years to repair.
    Yep, seen it this year right here. Total surprise. If this had been a populated area, folks would have died because the water was rising 1" a minute and road access was the first thing cut off.
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  • mogley98
    Not uncommon you are still missing the point even in a WELL drained layed out subdivision five feet of rain is going to flood!
    serf wrote:
    mogley98 wrote:
    I would counter that a large number of homes that have flooded have nothing to do with low lying areas, I might even bet that if any of you saw 5 feet of rain in a day no matter where you are you would flood.

    In a flat overbuilt Areas and having under groundwater subsidence then you need to be higher then the next guy next door! The Homebuilders look for cheap rice land that no longer able to pump well water to make money. Believe it or not, here In Houston Texas they have sold out the uninformed public for wealth. Cars and flooded streets are everywhere because of inadequate drainage.The city government here is useless and inept being bought off by lobbyist and dumb civil right groups.

    serf
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  • allen griggs
    A few years ago, I drove through Harvey, for a week. Drove through it in Houston and 6 days later, having been to S. Carolina and back, I was in Beaumont the day Beaumont flooded. Barely got out without getting trapped there. Good God I would have been stuck in one of those Red Cross shelters, God Forbid.

    With that flat land there is no where for the waters to go. I am glad that I have missed out on this storm.

    If you drive through Houston on a normal, in other words, 98 degree August day, it just looks like desert to me. But, Good God does Houston get a lot of rain.
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  • kimi
    Actually, to use a weather service description, "Houston Area dodged a bullet..." in that they did not get that much rain. Jefferson county, especially around Hampshire, near Beaumont, got about three times the rainfall that Houston got during Imelda. Beaumont generally gets more rain per year than Houston.

    Allen, I remember when you were stuck in Beaumont during Harvey...not far from Lamar University, right? I think you posted up a lot of pictures back then too!
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  • allen griggs
    Yes I posted pics of Harvey, up close and personal.
    I came in from Louisiana that morning, I had watched the weather closely the night before, and I knew that Beaumont was going to get it on that day. Houston had already gotten flooded, days earlier.

    So I drove into Beaumont on I 10, and it looked bad. I could see, coming in from the Louisiana line, that many of the access roads were flooded. Whether the access road had 4 inches of water, or 14 inches, hard to tell. But it didn't look good.
    So I got to the exit on I 10 where the terminal was. I could see the terminal just 300 yards away! But the exit ramp itself was flooded. 4 inches of water, or 24?
    I parked on the shoulder, mind you it was raining like hell. I put on shorts and tennis shoes and waded down the ramp.
    In 100 yards, the water was up to my knees! And my knees are about 24 inches high.
    I waded up to the terminal, it was 2 feet out of the water. There was a truck in there, guy had pulled in the night before.
    Two employees were "at work" in the terminal but I saw no cars. They had parked at the other end of the ramp and waded in, they punched the clock at least were going to get a day's pay.
    But it took 12 guys to run that place and a secretary, I knew that major rain was coming and the terminal would not open.

    The driver who spent the night there, he looked unhappy. He had watched me wade in and he knew he could not get out. We both had the low pipes that exit under the truck. The huge cat converter is in there, you put that hot cat under flood water for a few minutes, it will blow, and your truck will shut down.

    So I waded back to my truck, drove on down I 10 a few miles, mind you, I 10 was closed down just 10 miles down the road, I found an exit that wasn't flooded and turned around and hauled ass back to Louisiana.
    That was the smartest move I could have made. Beaumont got 21 more inches of rain on that day. Water rose 5 feet at that terminal, so that, water was 3 feet up on that truck that was trapped at the terminal. If he was running that engine, he blew his cat and it may have destroyed his engine. Beaumont was flooded for days, that driver would have had to call 911, and good luck with that, the 911 operator was at home trying to rescue his family, but call 911 and hope for rescue, and be taken to a Red Cross shelter.

    That terminal was closed for 2 weeks and repairs cost $120K. But I got out of Harvey unscathed.
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