Your Thoughts Punitive or what
I hate Bradly Manning who is now a trany and is a traitor IMO. Barry pardoned him because he was having "problems in prison" Now he has been in jail for a long time because he will not testify in the wikileaks trial/hearings.
They have put him jail and fined him. Now the judges has declared he can stay in jail for another year for contempt of court.
As much as I hate this traitor I find this treatment of a US citizen uninspiring. As much as I would like to see him in jail for what he was convicted of, being a traitor, I don't like seeing punitive measures being taken.
I would rather see him executed of treason.
link:
https://gizmodo.com/chelsea-manning-can-remain-in-jail-for-another-year-ju-1837022114
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Chelsea Manning, a former Army intelligence analyst-turned-whistleblower, may remain behind bars for up to another year and face nearly a half-million dollars in fines over her ongoing refusal to testify before a grand jury about her disclosure of classified information to WikiLeaks.
A federal judge in the Eastern District of Virginia on Monday denied a motion filed by Manning?s lawyers for a hearing requested to press the court to reconsider its sanctions, which include jail time?not to exceed 18 months?and financial penalties that may ultimately total around $441,000.
?I am disappointed but not at all surprised. The government and the judge must know by now that this doesn?t change my position one bit,? Manning said in a statement to Gizmodo.
Manning, 31, was taken into custody in early March after declining to answer questions before a grand jury concerning her past association with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization founded by Julian Assange, who is currently battling extradition to the U.S.
Assange faces an 18-count indictment, issued by U.S. Justice Department this May, including alleged violations of the Espionage Act for publishing classified information that Manning provided in 2010?including thousands of secret diplomatic cables and battlefield reports?while she served as an Army intelligent analyst in Iraq.
Manning has stated that she has a moral objection to testifying before the grand jury and that no amount of jail time will compel her to testify. Legally, she can only be imprisoned as part of an effort by the court to coerce her into testifying. Her time in jail is not supposed to be punitive.
Her attorneys argue that she?s shown her resolve is unwavering and that the sanctions are ineffective. Thus, her time in jail cannot be considered coercive, an attempt to compel her testimony. U.S. District Judge Anthony Trenga, however, says he?s convinced otherwise. On Monday, he denied Manning?s attorneys the opportunity to further argue their case before the court.
?In support of the Motion, Ms. Manning has proffered a substantial number of financial records detailing her assets, liabilities, and current future earnings,? he wrote. ?The Court has reviewed these records and concludes, based on the evidence proffered, that Ms. Manning has the ability to comply with the Court?s financial sanctions or will have the ability after her release from confinement.?
Do a little research and you will find numerous people who have been jailed for Contempt for a very long time, I thin 14 years is the record. This IMO flys in the face of the Constitution, more proof I believe our Judicial system is broken even though it is better than anyone else's.
They have put him jail and fined him. Now the judges has declared he can stay in jail for another year for contempt of court.
As much as I hate this traitor I find this treatment of a US citizen uninspiring. As much as I would like to see him in jail for what he was convicted of, being a traitor, I don't like seeing punitive measures being taken.
I would rather see him executed of treason.
link:
https://gizmodo.com/chelsea-manning-can-remain-in-jail-for-another-year-ju-1837022114
C&P
Chelsea Manning, a former Army intelligence analyst-turned-whistleblower, may remain behind bars for up to another year and face nearly a half-million dollars in fines over her ongoing refusal to testify before a grand jury about her disclosure of classified information to WikiLeaks.
A federal judge in the Eastern District of Virginia on Monday denied a motion filed by Manning?s lawyers for a hearing requested to press the court to reconsider its sanctions, which include jail time?not to exceed 18 months?and financial penalties that may ultimately total around $441,000.
?I am disappointed but not at all surprised. The government and the judge must know by now that this doesn?t change my position one bit,? Manning said in a statement to Gizmodo.
Manning, 31, was taken into custody in early March after declining to answer questions before a grand jury concerning her past association with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization founded by Julian Assange, who is currently battling extradition to the U.S.
Assange faces an 18-count indictment, issued by U.S. Justice Department this May, including alleged violations of the Espionage Act for publishing classified information that Manning provided in 2010?including thousands of secret diplomatic cables and battlefield reports?while she served as an Army intelligent analyst in Iraq.
Manning has stated that she has a moral objection to testifying before the grand jury and that no amount of jail time will compel her to testify. Legally, she can only be imprisoned as part of an effort by the court to coerce her into testifying. Her time in jail is not supposed to be punitive.
Her attorneys argue that she?s shown her resolve is unwavering and that the sanctions are ineffective. Thus, her time in jail cannot be considered coercive, an attempt to compel her testimony. U.S. District Judge Anthony Trenga, however, says he?s convinced otherwise. On Monday, he denied Manning?s attorneys the opportunity to further argue their case before the court.
?In support of the Motion, Ms. Manning has proffered a substantial number of financial records detailing her assets, liabilities, and current future earnings,? he wrote. ?The Court has reviewed these records and concludes, based on the evidence proffered, that Ms. Manning has the ability to comply with the Court?s financial sanctions or will have the ability after her release from confinement.?
Do a little research and you will find numerous people who have been jailed for Contempt for a very long time, I thin 14 years is the record. This IMO flys in the face of the Constitution, more proof I believe our Judicial system is broken even though it is better than anyone else's.
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tie him/her/it to billy klinton some way and justice will be served in one week 0 -
He is a FRICKEN TRAITOR not a citizen, nothing bad enough could ever happen to him 0 -
They have to keep him in jail as he is prone to RUN AWAY! 0 -
bullshot wrote:He is a FRICKEN TRAITOR not a citizen, nothing bad enough could ever happen to him
I kind of feel the same way but then again I don't like seeing this side of the justice system.
Justice should be blind and impartial. I don't feel you should be jailed and fined for not talking to a Grand Jury. It just doesn't seem fair to me but then again when I was a kid I was told FAIR is what you pay to get on a bus.
I think he should still be in jail as a traitor or deported and loose his citizenship, kind of like PNG him.0 -
that jail time is all that may be keeping he/she/it alive. wait a few more years and most will have forgotten he/she/it and it will be safe to wander the streets again, sorta like jane fonda, though her family name kept her from a lot of harm. 0 -
I don't think it was punitive at all. The pardon was for specific crimes dealing with his service. If it commits other crimes later or crimes not specific to the pardon it is fair game. 0
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