help me do some burglar brainstorming
solid core door, 1-3/4" thick, on six hinges, three deadbolts, and a locking doorknob.
closes like a bank vault.
I figure the lower half is the strike zone when someone ...tries... to kick it in. it's a work in progress, so I still have to put the last 2 hinges on. the three on bottom are good for now.
why six hinges? because they come in packs of three.
and they're security hinges. they have a hump in the middle so even if they take out the pin, they won't seperate.
why three deadbolts? because NOBODY is going to be able to kick in this door.
why the metal plates on the deadbolts? so the wood cannot be broken. the metal holds it together.
why double cylinders, instead of a turn knob? because it's locked on the inside too, so when they come in through the window they won't be able to carry the loot out the back door. it's locked. ha. ha. ha. they have to carry that TV right back out the window, or out the front door.
one little problem. what if they come in the window?
if they get a phillips screwdriver they can take the screws out, remove the locks, and open the door.
I went to Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware and Fastenal looking for the same screws with a torx, square or hex head so they can't be unscrewed so easily. nobody has them.
I can use Loctite, but then I can't get them off either.
how can I keep these deadbolts from being unscrewed.
closes like a bank vault.
I figure the lower half is the strike zone when someone ...tries... to kick it in. it's a work in progress, so I still have to put the last 2 hinges on. the three on bottom are good for now.
why six hinges? because they come in packs of three.
and they're security hinges. they have a hump in the middle so even if they take out the pin, they won't seperate.
why three deadbolts? because NOBODY is going to be able to kick in this door.
why the metal plates on the deadbolts? so the wood cannot be broken. the metal holds it together.
why double cylinders, instead of a turn knob? because it's locked on the inside too, so when they come in through the window they won't be able to carry the loot out the back door. it's locked. ha. ha. ha. they have to carry that TV right back out the window, or out the front door.
one little problem. what if they come in the window?
if they get a phillips screwdriver they can take the screws out, remove the locks, and open the door.
I went to Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware and Fastenal looking for the same screws with a torx, square or hex head so they can't be unscrewed so easily. nobody has them.
I can use Loctite, but then I can't get them off either.
how can I keep these deadbolts from being unscrewed.
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sometime, can't do that any time soondunbarboyz wrote:Move!0 -
better one is the bracket on both sides of the door that holds a 2x4. lag bolts into the frame.yoshmyster wrote:I like those New York Locks. It's a The ones that goes in the middle of the door and it has two 2x4 looking bars that slide out to the door jamb.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=55FD6814E58D5DD8EC0C8A8E9B6842A72355D023&thid=OIP.ZfZkjXx7v9PSzJoDaRmaggHaFx&mediaurl=http://sohomemory.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/foxpolicelock.jpg&exph=312&expw=400&q=new+york+door+lock&selectedindex=0&ajaxhist=0&vt=0
already have those, not installed yet.0 -
Here is how I see it.
Most home thefts are "Grab & Run and are committed by young dopeheads looking for something to sell or trade for drugs. Many times they are even family or friends.
Valuables that are not in plain sight are much more secure than items that are "displayed".
Criminals will quickly move through a house scooping up all the loose valuables within eyesight and easy reach. If this technique does not net them some booty the next method is check obvious "hiding places" such as convient cabinets, drawers, high shelves, behind doors, closets, nightstands, etc.
They want to loot and scoot. Most don't posess the skills or tools of real B&E artist. Quality drawer locks and locked doors should keep valuables safe.
The next level of thief will spend more time searching for valuables and uses tools to break locks. He may be more confident or maybe he is simply more desperate. The better the quality of doors and locks, the less stuff this thief will steal.
The criminal that we dread the most, and is in the minority, is the professional. He cases houses to determine when the homeowner will be gone for extended periods of time and what advanced tools will be required to defeat whatever measures are in place. This type of crook is difficult (and almost) impossible to stop. Very few of us can afford the very expensive safes, very expensive home design and the very expensive electronic monitoring required.
However, every level of security we execute makes us and our stuff that much more secure.
My number 1 rule is:
If they can't find it they can't steal it.
My number 2 rule us:
If they can't access it they can't steal it.
Survelance cameras (even phoney cameras) will dissuade many criminals.
To the OP, you are on the right track. And asking advice from a variety of people is a great way to evalute and plan.
(If you could hide that door...say...behind some shelves...)
There are always the few that will tell you that your 10 million dollar bank vault and alarm system is not going to stop a determined thief.
And he is correct. Even Fort Knox is crackable.
As a friend of mine learned, a thief can carry a rifle or two and run off into the night. But a dozen long guns with a locked chain through their triggerguards are just too big a load and will take too much time for the average lowlife to dismantle.0 -
I have a theory that most thieves are lazy lowlifes who aren?t interested in working for your stuff. Since I know I?ll never ?burglarproof? my house I just try to make it more trouble than it?s worth to come in without an invitation.
Once a burglar goes to the trouble to come in without an invitation with me at home, I have to assume he is willing and able to kill me and my dog for my stuff. This would put me in fear for my life. If he is still willing to come in knowing or should know that one of us will likely wind up dead, all I can say is ?come on and take our chances?.
I was burglarized when I lived in Rota, Spain in 1970. The only thing he took was two Wachovia Bank bags of silver quarters. I reported it to the Chief Master-at-Arms on the ship knowing how much he could do about it, but I had to tell somebody. We went to the local police and reported it. The police sent two investigators to the house. The burglar had left a full palm and finger prints on the bedroom dresser. One of the investigators said it was a shame it didn?t happen in Madrid, they could use the palm and finger prints.
Next day the police arrested a Gipsy and beat him until he confessed. CASE SOLVED! Kinda made me wish I had kept my mouth shut. A couple days later I noticed one of my neighbors across the street was sitting on his balcony taking coins out of a bank bag and counting them. My first inclination was to visit my neighbor, but we were scheduled to get underway for Bremerton Naval Shipyard in a few days, and I didn?t want to spend the remainder of my life in a Spanish prison so I shrugged it off and let it go.
Lesson learned: When you are burglarized and you can see it is going to cause you more trouble than the burglar, try to suck it up and continue with life.0 -
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