Experiences with game and fish wardens.
Mine have always been good except with one game warden in Pa. who started giving me the business without identifying himself.
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I had a S. jersey one walk over and check my over and under for 3 rounds.
No BS0 -
I had a S. jersey one walk over and check my over and under for 3 rounds.
No BS
Maybe he thought the under was the magazine
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Several positive interactions, one major idiot up in N. Pa that continues being an a****le to this day. 0 -
Seems the old school wardens were a little better than the ones we have now.The newer ones are there to write tickets.I remember some of the old guys giving people the correct size hooks and sinkers for what they were fishing for and telling them the best places to fish. 0 -
When I was a kid we always got good information, about where the fish were biting and where was the best place to find a fat doe, by talking to the local game warden. He always had time to answer our questions then throw in a little hunter safety talk.
We don't have game wardens in Virginia anymore.
They are called Conservation Police.
Their main duty is to stop people, check them for outstanding traffic infractions and grill them about weed.
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Three of my 3" shells would not go in the tube but three of his 2 3/4" would. Payed the hundred dollars. 0 -
I was proud to get my first hunting license when I was 9 years old. Then I was disappointed that there was never a game warden around to check for licenses.
Did you ever hear the story about the 2 guys fishing? One had a fishing license and the other one didn't so when the game warden showed up the one with the license took off running. When the game warden finally caught him he showed him his license. In the mean time the other guy got away.0 -
I have had both good an bad here in Pa State 0 -
Smitty500mag wrote:I was proud to get my first hunting license when I was 9 years old. Then I was disappointed that there was never a game warden around to check for licenses.
Did you ever hear the story about the 2 guys fishing? One had a fishing license and the other one didn't so when the game warden showed up the one with the license took off running. When the game warden finally caught him he showed him his license. In the mean time the other guy got away.
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]I also did this for a friend. (made a game warden chase me) I call them Possum cops in this neck of the woods. I had the lic and ran. He asked me why I ran. I said because I thought I had over my limit of crappie. He made me go back and count the fish in the basket. He asked for my friends name. I said I did not know the guy.
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Ive had good and bad ones. The NJ warden cut me some slack on a fish.
Not so lucky in Maine. Since I was out of state he wrote me on a questionable violation. After paying the fine. Barly had enough to pay for the gas needed to get home.0 -
Been hunting over 6 decades.
don't fish.
Never had any contact with one.0 -
THE one and only time I called for a game warden was when I witnessed six college boys netting trout from a stocked stream. The dispatcher told me ?The warden has gone home for the day. We?ll have him call you in the morning.? He never called.
Our old game warden would track you through the gates of hell if he thought you were illegal. He was a legend around here. If he caught someone once, he would watch them from then on. He would set up a dummy deer and sit in the cold bush for hours trying to catch a poacher.
He once checked the licenses of some friends of mine on the local lake one morning. They were legally papered.
Later that night they decided to go do some night fishing on the river. He showed up at near midnight and checked them again.
He was well respected, though, and still is.
In Virginia, game wardens actually have more search powers than the police.0 -
"Been hunting over 60 decades."............A 'DECADE' IS 10 YEARS, 60 DECADES = 600 YEARS........YOU ARE DEFINITELY AN 'OLD TIMER' 0 -
Quick&Dead wrote:Been hunting over 60 decades.
don't fish.
Never had any contact with one.
60 x 10 = 600 years. I knew you were an old geezer but I had no idea.0 -
nothing but positive....even when getting the complete boat check when duck hunting. maybe i was lucky, knowing most of them thru Hunter Safety Classes, but i was always treated courteously and professionally. 0 -
mjrfd99 wrote:I had a S. jersey one walk over and check my over and under for 3 rounds.
No BS :roll:0 -
forgemonkey wrote:mjrfd99 wrote:I had a S. jersey one walk over and check my over and under for 3 rounds.
No BS
Nothing but positive interaction,,,,,,,,,
I had to dismantle my shotgun for a federal fish and wildlife warden to prove the maximum number of shells was two,,,,,,,,it was a Browning Double Auto ,,,,,,,,
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Around here the possum police are diks. Pure and simple. Two years ago, one drove up to my ground blind ACROSS a 50 acre partially cut bean field to check for my deer tags. Yea, I was good but that spot was not hunting anymore for the AM. :shock: 0 -
I've had a few neutral or slightly negative. One quite negative, but the other dozen or more interactions have been positive and this one really cool one:
I was hunting waterfowl an area in SE Kansas. It is public land. What they do, is plant crops in these areas with berms all around them with gates between the areas. There are a few islands scattered around the middle area. When season comes, they pump some water up. Then, as the low hanging milo (usually) is eaten, they raise it up, and up, and up until an area has been picked fairly clean then they open the gates to the next area. So, you walk in on the berms to your desired destination then wade to the island of your choice (or whatever is free).
On day, I was walking in for the evening hunt on the berm and I saw a wounded duck right up next to the berm but he tried to take off showing his obviously broken wing. I dropped my decoy bag, cycled a round into my chamber and shot it. I walked out to pick it up and as I was stepping back on the berm the game warden walked up. He checked all my paperwork and all was good. He then tells me there is no hunting/shooting from the berm. I tell him I know, but that duck was wounded and didn't want it to suffer. He said "I know, I saw it. Next time, just try to get your boots wet first. Have a good day and good luck." So, he knew I did the wrong thing, but for the right reason and let it go.
Another story, not quite as good, but interesting.
This warden approached me and my brother-in-law as we were walking out on private land. He was asking about the neighbor. Asking if we had seen him doing anything illegal, hunting from a vehicle, baiting deer, etc. After we clarified which one, I told him I hadn't seen him ever do anything I'd consider illegal or unethical. I said that several times, in the same way.
Here's why:
This farmer is probably in his very late 60's or more likely mid-70's. He's farmed that same stretch since he was a kid and it was previously his parents farm. He runs cattle on most of that half-section. On opening morning, he drives the tractor out and feeds the cows the exact same way he does the other 364 days of the year. Only on opening morning, after he does that, he pulls over to the side and opens his door on the tractor cab. When the deer inevitably show up to join the cows, he takes one. He tags it, puts it in the bucket on the tractor and goes home. He has only ever taken one (at least during rifle season). When this happened, baiting game was illegal in Kansas and except for handicapped, hunting from a motor vehicle is illegal as well. I guess because of his age and the fact that he isn't driving around hunting them, I have no problem with that. The bait? Well, he feeds those deer more or less year around. That is why I kept saying I'd never seen him do anything I'd consider illegal or unethical.0 -
When I was a Senior in High School, 1962, I was Dove hunting with my Dad's Browning A5 16 gauge in some fields outside of our small town in Southwest Arkansas. I saw the Game Warden pull up and thought nothing about it, so I walked over and met him at the side of the road. We knew each other and I went to school with his kids (they were younger than me). He asked me what I was hunting and I told him Doves. He asked if he could see my Hunting license, so I showed it to him. He then asked if I would eject the shells in my shotgun, so I did. When the 4th and 5th shell ejected, he looked at me and said, Boy, you know Doves are Migratory Birds and you need a plug in your gun to restrict it to 3 shells. I looked at him quizzically and thought, but didn't say, "Doves are Migratory Birds?, the damn things are here year-round"!!!!! The ticket cost me around $16 if I remember correctly, a lot of money for a High School student in 1962!!!!!! :shock: 0 -
Well, did you have the right plugs in it?mjrfd99 wrote:I had a S. jersey one walk over and check my over and under for 3 rounds.
No BS0 -
Obnoxious, arrogant, inept, devious, indifferent--those would be the primary descriptive words.
A couple years back we (my older Son and I) attended a public meeting with MDC. One of the things we were interested in was some specific determinations of "a handgun" relative to the "alternative methods" deer season. The state head of the "enforcement division" kept using the term "agent's discretion" which we saw as a problem since the firearms we intended to use were on the very edge of legal. We didn't want to be facing some agent who just had an argument with his old lady, was "impaired", or just got out of bed on the wrong side to be hassling us over an issue that balanced on his discretion. We wanted the exact description based on a written statement and that set the state guys off since they considered that as "questioning" their authority. One big gruff dude with a gun even threatened me with some sort of charges simply because I had a "bad attitude".0 -
Had 2 meetings with game wardens in over 45 years of hunting.
The first when I was only 20 and hunting deer with my brotherinlaw.
We had just walked out of the woods to go home for lunch and had the truck parked on a gravel road, but still public road.
He said Hi Boys, then reched into the back seat and pulled out our 2 rifles and checked to see they were unloaded. They were.
Said have a nice day and left.
The second was with a very rich doctor friend. He asked if I wanted to go duck hunting with him. Sure!!
We got into a sink boat {or whatever you call them for duck hunting} with another guy who was introduced as only Tommy.
After a while some ducks flew into the lake and tommy stood up and fired at them.
I was amazed, those ducks weren't legal to shoot.
He said it's okay, I'm the game warden here and those are "practice ducks".
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hehehe practice ducks.....sounds like my GW buddy we took goose hunting that had some "old shells" he wanted to use up before he bought those high dollar non-toxic ones....old shells= lead! 0 -
Smitty500mag wrote:Quick&Dead wrote:Been hunting over 60 decades.
don't fish.
Never had any contact with one.
60 x 10 = 600 years. I knew you were an old geezer but I had no idea.
Darn, my mind moves faster than my fingers can type when considering a decade is 10 years and over 6 of them never had contact...so a little mumble jumble. Perhaps I should be in congress.0 -
babun wrote:Had 2 meetings with game wardens in over 45 years of hunting.
The first when I was only 20 and hunting deer with my brotherinlaw.
We had just walked out of the woods to go home for lunch and had the truck parked on a gravel road, but still public road.
He said Hi Boys, then reched into the back seat and pulled out our 2 rifles and checked to see they were unloaded. They were.
Said have a nice day and left.
Sad you are in a commie state.
Perfectly legal to carry a fully loaded rifle/shotgun with one in the chamber here, in a vehicle or walking down a street in town.
Open carry handguns fully loaded always been legal and recently legal constitutional carry of handguns.
Your state needs the firearm laws updated. :!:0 -
jimdeere wrote:....In Virginia, game wardens actually have more search powers than the police.
I heard a Conservation Officer tell a guy that he did not need a warrant to come on his property and search his out-buildings!
Apparently, the Constitution does not apply to them.
Probably why other agencies like to take a "Game Warden" along on their raids.
I'm related to a fellow who was investigated and charged for hunting over bait.
When he asked the CO's who tipped them off, they said, "No one. Your name was flagged in the computer from your harvest reports because you kill a nice buck every year."
In Virginia, we are required to report our deer kills - date, place, method of kill, sex of kill, and number of points.
This is a mandatory report! They then use the information to conduct investigations.
Isn't this self-incrimination and illegal?0 -
Quick&Dead wrote:babun wrote:Had 2 meetings with game wardens in over 45 years of hunting.
The first when I was only 20 and hunting deer with my brotherinlaw.
We had just walked out of the woods to go home for lunch and had the truck parked on a gravel road, but still public road.
He said Hi Boys, then reched into the back seat and pulled out our 2 rifles and checked to see they were unloaded. They were.
Said have a nice day and left.
Sad you are in a commie state.
Perfectly legal to carry a fully loaded rifle/shotgun with one in the chamber here, in a vehicle or walking down a street in town.
Open carry handguns fully loaded always been legal and recently legal constitutional carry of handguns.
Your state needs the firearm laws updated. :!:
Was in NY about 35 years ago, before it too bad.
It was/is illegal to carry a loaded rifle/shotgun DURING Big game season in a vehicle on a state/city/county road.
He couldn't care about the loaded .45 on my hip.
A game warden has MORE power than any other LEO. They can and have entered private homes and cars to search for illegal meat from game, with NO warrant or court orders. Try telling the fish and game person to stay off your boat till he gets a search warrant for how many fish you got. :shock:0 -
In Idaho: Nothing but positive contacts, and have never been asked to see my license.
In Kalifornia: Nothing but negative. Fish and Game watched me from a distance for about 30 minutes, then came over and checked my out of state license. I placed my loaded O/U in the bed of my pickup and he said he would have to write me for that. I said no you will not as I am retired LEO and that shotgun is my personal defense weapon. Later he said he would like to come to work as a game warden in Idaho, and I said "Don't bother, you would not fit in. Idaho has no use for a ticket writing machine as a game warden", and he left.0 -
babun wrote:
A game warden has MORE power than any other LEO. They can and have entered private homes and cars to search for illegal meat from game, with NO warrant or court orders. Try telling the fish and game person to stay off your boat till he gets a search warrant for how many fish you got. :shock:
That's the way it's always been in Georgia......who needs a Judge's signature ? ....just call up the local game Warden to help find the illegal contraband 0
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