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Trump's reversal on Huawei

serf
Another Art of the deal project for Trump that was obviously a ploy to get China to see the light on other trade deal issues.Their Phones never had a security problem from the factory with Andriod installed system from Google.

After all Google is just a tool for The NSA anyway that makes a profit for them & big Bussiness worldwide.

serf
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3405589/huawei-google-android-license-ban-lifted.html

One thing that isn?t changing, however, is Huawei?s ability to sell its phones in the United States. However, Trump didn?t close the door on that possibility either, saying the two countries ?will have to save that to the very end? of their negotiations over tariffs.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-spied-on-chinese-government-and-networking-firm-huawei-a-960199.html

The American government conducted a major intelligence offensive against China, with targets including the Chinese government and networking company Huawei, according to documents from former NSA worker Edward Snowden that have been viewed by SPIEGEL and the New York Times. Among the American intelligence service's targets were former Chinese President Hu Jintao, the Chinese Trade Ministry, banks, as well as telecommunications companies.

But the NSA made a special effort to target Huawei. With 150,000 employees and ?28 billion ($38.6 billion) in annual revenues, the company is the world's second largest network equipment supplier. At the beginning of 2009, the NSA began an extensive operation, referred to internally as "Shotgiant," against the company, which is considered a major competitor to US-based Cisco. The company produces smartphones and tablets, but also mobile phone infrastructure, WLAN routers and fiber optic cable -- the kind of technology that is decisive in the NSA's battle for data supremacy.
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  • mag00
    I was reading in bloomburg that the chinese board manufacturers were putting spy chips on the boards. Many companies have banned the use of chinese boards in server applications. Don't know if this goes to Huawei, but I think it does.
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  • buschmaster
    it was a company called Supermicro, which makes motherboards for servers, which are bought by many different companies for re-selling, and are used all over the place.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
    Nested on the servers? motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn?t part of the boards? original design. Amazon reported the discovery to U.S. authorities, sending a shudder through the intelligence community. Elemental?s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA?s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships. And Elemental was just one of hundreds of Supermicro customers.
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  • spasmcreek
    anyone who believes china would NOT hide stuff on electronics it exports to the USA for military, govt, or domestic services is asleep in cloud cuckoo land
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  • mag00
    buschmaster wrote:
    it was a company called Supermicro, which makes motherboards for servers, which are bought by many different companies for re-selling, and are used all over the place.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
    Nested on the servers? motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn?t part of the boards? original design. Amazon reported the discovery to U.S. authorities, sending a shudder through the intelligence community. Elemental?s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA?s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships. And Elemental was just one of hundreds of Supermicro customers.

    Thanks!

    I liked that magazine, a bit rich for my blood at this time but seem to be a good magazine, few ads and good info.

    Seems the recent deal is getting china to buy more from our farmers. We all knew they couldn't last without food and would come to the table. I guess the USA needed the electronic gadgets as badly. The field is leveling out it appears to me.
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  • spasmcreek
    any american spybots hidden in wheat or soybeans ??????????????????????
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  • serf
    spasmcreek wrote:
    any american spybots hidden in wheat or soybeans ??????????????????????

    The USA with the NSA is not beyond playing the game with China's government, however.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-01-20-0201200339-story.html

    China's government bought a new jetliner for President Jiang Zemin's personal use from Chicago-based Boeing Co. last summer and loved the purchase until Chinese intelligence agents reportedly discovered it was riddled with listening devices.

    China's government isn't saying anything about the alleged incident, but two Western newspapers reported that more than 20 bugs were discovered in the Boeing 767-300ER, including one device in the headboard of the presidential bed and another in a lavatory.

    Bought for President Jiang

    The plane, built and specially equipped for Jiang at different sites around the United States, now is said to sit unused, its innards were torn apart, at a military airfield outside Beijing, while Jiang fumes about the incident, according to reports in The Washington Post and the Financial Times of London.
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  • mag00
    They got caught trying to reverse engineer the jetliner (to steal technology) and the bugs is a sorry excuse for why they ruined their 50,000 mile warranty.
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  • serf
    mag00 wrote:
    They got caught trying to reverse engineer the jetliner (to steal technology) and the bugs is a sorry excuse for why they ruined their 50,000 mile warranty.

    Gosh, and what did The USA do with all that technology they grab from Germany in/after WWII? This is what governments do to survive against another. Trump is just being savvy with The Red Chinese so they (Big Western Businesses ) gets their fair share of the profits from the Commies that like to live like westerners at their expense.

    In reality, Capitalism and Communism are just two sides of the same coin. It's all an unseen oligarchy pulling the strings believe it or not. Money, resources with profits is the new game now. Fighting wars have become unprofitable with nuclear weapons at bay. The South China Sea with Oil may become mute too if new renewable technologies come online.

    serf

    https://www.businessinsider.com/nuclear-weapons-stockpiles-world-map-2017-8

    There is some hope for those who wish to abolish nuclear weapons. The 2017 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons, a group dedicated to ridding the world of the dangerous arms technology.

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee said in its decision that ICAN "works vigorously to achieve nuclear disarmament" and noted the organization's progress in getting 122 UN member states to sign the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons.
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  • mag00
    It's always been that way. Ruling class vs peasants.
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  • us55840
    What's a Huawei?

    :?:
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  • serf
    Quick&Dead wrote:
    What's a Huawei?

    :?:

    A Red Chinese Telecommunication company that builds two-thirds of all 4G and 5G backbone equipment worldwide. That also make cell phones, computers and other technologies they can make or steal from the west for military purposes.

    serf
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