Trigger quandery
The last thing I needed was another 22 rifle. Last fall I got a used 10/22 standard carbine at a ridiculous price. Now I'll admit I have no use for standard 10/22s. Crappy stock, terrible trigger, so-so barrel, and way to common. So I decided to see what I could do to improve it. Ordered a McGowen barrel, found a Boyds stock on sale, better scope base, 3-12 AO scope. Wasn't quite ready to spend the big bucks on one of the 200 to 300 dollar triggers. Found a Ruger BX trigger here on Gunbroker for about 20 bucks including shipping. Finally got around to sighting it in yesterday with a half a dozen different loads. Could only use the 25 yd range. Worst 5 shot group was with Mini Mags at just under 3/8". Best was Aguilla at 1/4". Nice little cloverleaf groups. So do I spend the big bucks on a trigger? The rifle probably deserves it but not sure that I'll see enough improvement to justify the cost. What would you guys do? Bob
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a good trigger makes all the difference in the world. BX's are supposed to be pretty good for the money. can't say I'd spend 200-300 on a trigger but if you aren't happy with the BX that's what it might take to make you happy.
22LR loses accuracy with hi velocity ammo.
if it were me I'd stick with the BX and Aguila's and try to figure out how to apply the extra 200-300 dollars to my Glock.0 -
Had. Kidd trigger on my 10/22 for around 15 years. Worth every penny if you want the best. 0 -
Brownells has a big sale on CMC & Timney triggers going on. 0 -
I have bought both Kidd and valquartsen and about the only difference I saw was in the price. Kidd cost a lot more it really doesn't produce better. I think with Kidd you're paying for the name
The BX is okay, but you will definitely tell a difference if you spent more money and bought a better trigger system.0 -
Volquartsen use to offer a drop in trigger that was a consistent 1.5lbs, but I don't see it listed now. The only thing I see now is the parts kit that gives a 2.25lb trigger. I use to do a lot of 10/22 trigger jobs, but the crap Ruger calls a trigger now, isn't worth the time to mess with. 0 -
The Kidd trigger is a completely different design than a Ruger trigger. 0 -
1/4? equals minute-of-squirrels head @ 25 yds.
I bought a BX trigger for my 10-22 and could tell no noticeable difference from stock.0 -
Check out Brimstone gunsmithing.. they rework your trigger group , they have several different tiers of offered work. All are very reasonably priced and you actually get what you pay for. they always get rave reviews from the rimfire .community 0 -
Thanks for the suggestions. The BX trigger is a vast improvement over the stock 10/22 trigger. When I mentioned the groups I used the lazy edge to edge size. The Aguilla shot for me an outstanding .03 and the CCI was .155. Group measurement - the bullet diameter = group size. For me, with my limited abilities, it was pretty good. The biggest problem I have with the BX is over travel. Is there a way to minimize this on the existing trigger? Bob 0 -
Drill, tap, and a set screw.
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I thought of the drill, tap, screw method. Could it be done just as well by installing the screw in the trigger guard instead of the trigger? Bob 0 -
It all depends on what you want to do. I was looking for a trigger light and consistent enough that I could slap it without upsetting the rifle. I needed it for a standing 100 yard match. Yea I know you aren't supposed to slap a trigger but if it's light enough and the shooter is skilled enough it works, at least for me. I shot a possible and won that match so I was very happy with the Kidd trigger. My only complaint was the damn thing was actually too light as it came and I had to adjust it a little heavier. I see they cost just under $300.00 and most people won't pay that much which is understandable. I wanted the best and I got it. I don't think a Ruger trigger can be set up as nice as my Kidd which is a completely different design. By the was I think my trigger is set at 8 oz. 0 -
Yes, I've seen it done that way too, I do the trigger while I have it apart. Some don't like the feel of the hole on the trigger, a trigger shoe eliminates that, gives better trigger control, and gives a perceived feeling of a lighter trigger. My trigger is right at 2.5lbs, with a crisp let off, and all Ruger.BobJudy wrote:I thought of the drill, tap, screw method. Could it be done just as well by installing the screw in the trigger guard instead of the trigger? Bob
Years ago, I had a buddy that just had to have all the latest gadgets, and his 10/22 was no exception. Bet a brick of .22 ammo I could make mine do everything his could, using the parts it came with. He had about $280 into his. I had $8 in supplies, and 4hrs....and later that day, a free brick of ammo.
The last "ground up" build I did was 10 or so years ago for CritterGitter. That rifle got boring to shoot inside 75yrds. I had mine in a Boyd's thumbhole stock. I traded it to a stock duplicator I know, to use as a template. In return, he copied it with some mods, in a beautiful piece of Bastogne walnut for me. When I get caught up on a 100 other projects, I'll finish the inletting, and do a BLO wetsand finish on it. I've watched a trend of floating the receiver, and bedding the heavy barrels. I may do that with this one.
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Ricci Wright wrote:It all depends on what you want to do. I was looking for a trigger light and consistent enough that I could slap it without upsetting the rifle. I needed it for a standing 100 yard match. Yea I know you aren't supposed to slap a trigger but if it's light enough and the shooter is skilled enough it works, at least for me. I shot a possible and won that match so I was very happy with the Kidd trigger. My only complaint was the damn thing was actually too light as it came and I had to adjust it a little heavier. I see they cost just under $300.00 and most people won't pay that much which is understandable. I wanted the best and I got it. I don't think a Ruger trigger can be set up as nice as my Kidd which is a completely different design. By the was I think my trigger is set at 8 oz.
Ricci I have an Anschutz with an 8 oz. trigger. It can be a challenge to get used to but once you do it is kinda neat! I have a lot of 22s that are more accurate than I am. The challenge for me with this 10/22 was that I hate most stock 10/22s and wanted to see what I could do with it. I have good triggers on most of my 22s. The best factory one is probably on my Win 52. The Kimber 82 is close behind. Even the Sako 78 ain't bad. First when I get around to it I think I'll try the drill' tap screw method for over travel. If I'm still not happy the Kidd single stage trigger will be next. I think that a clean breaking 1.5 lb. trigger will be light enough. Thanks for steering me toward the Kidd it looks like what I am looking for. Bob0
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