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Chewed Larry out today......but he (kind of) deserved it.

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  • remingtonoaks
    So why don't you get one of those electric boundary fences. You still have to train them not to cross the line, but.... once they know the boundaries, it won't matter. Your dog just needs to be taught the boundaries
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  • mark christian
    Your dog just needs to be taught the boundaries

    The same could be said for some forum members. Regrettably, Gun Broker refused my suggestion that while members are logged onto the forum, they be required to wear administrator activated shock collars.
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  • Locust Fork
    I would hope that the humans around here are smart enough to keep a dog from darting out a door without having to turn to shock therapy. I might put the collar on the ones that let her out instead.....(this might work!)
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  • mark christian
    Your dog just needs to be taught the boundaries

    The same could be said for some forum members. Regrettably, Gun Broker refused my suggestion that while members are logged onto the forum, they be required to wear administrator activated shock collars.

    You reported me? Do you know where those reports go? They go to me- which in this case is a real time saver. I should have given you warning #5 for the abortion thread you posted a couple of nights ago. I know full well that you were aware that abortion is a banned topic and has been so for over a decade. Never the less, I chose to simply delete it and I let you slide. I can't issue a warning after the fact, but rest assured that I won't look the other way for you again.
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  • remingtonoaks
    Your dog just needs to be taught the boundaries

    The same could be said for some forum members. Regrettably, Gun Broker refused my suggestion that while members are logged onto the forum, they be required to wear administrator activated shock collars.

    You reported me? Do you know where those reports go? They go to me- which in this case is a real time saver. I should have given you warning #5 for the abortion thread you posted a couple of nights ago. I know full well that you were aware that abortion is a banned topic and has been so for over a decade. Never the less, I chose to simply delete it and I let you slide. I can't issue a warning after the fact, but rest assured that I won't look the other way for you again.

    I thought you could take a joke, hence the wink in the report. I guess I'll never make that mistake again ;)
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  • montanajoe
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    Back peddling,, ;)
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  • remingtonoaks
    Locust Fork wrote:
    I would hope that the humans around here are smart enough to keep a dog from darting out a door without having to turn to shock therapy. I might put the collar on the ones that let her out instead.....(this might work!)

    I totally agree that dogs should not have a shock collar... that's why I built fences around the house, but there are some people that can't afford fences and has dogs that you can't train to know the boundaries such as my dog, he's a Blue Tick Hound that instincts tell him as soon as he's off the leash he must go chasing raccoons and the like... I think it would be better for them to learn the boundaries through a shock collar which by the way doesn't give a shock to start with only a high-pitch sound the dog does not like along with training a dog what those boundaries are so that they don't get shocked. Then to go run out in the street and get ran over . But that also entails spending time training your dog
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    Your dog just needs to be taught the boundaries

    The same could be said for some forum members. Regrettably, Gun Broker refused my suggestion that while members are logged onto the forum, they be required to wear administrator activated shock collars.
    Me thinks your fingers might get cramps pushing that button........
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  • Locust Fork
    I think this is just one of those things she will learn like the other rules around here. I'm just surprised at how HARD it has been to "train" the people to be aware of this problem. You would think people who are able to put shoes on the correct feet could keep a dog from going out a door, but I guess I'm wrong there.
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  • Marc1301
    Locust Fork wrote:
    I think this is just one of those things she will learn like the other rules around here. I'm just surprised at how HARD it has been to "train" the people to be aware of this problem. You would think people who are able to put shoes on the correct feet could keep a dog from going out a door, but I guess I'm wrong there.
    :lol::lol:
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  • buschmaster
    have Larry deal with the cleanup when she gets out. might change his mind.
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  • buschmaster
    Do you know where those reports go? They go to me-

    OH dis gon' be funnn :D
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  • notnow
    Having the dog "fixed" will calm it down a bit. And the collar thing isn't a bad idea either. Maybe the inborn nature of your dog is that of a hunter/ pursuit type and it will never change.
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  • 35 Whelen
    Kasey, the next time Larry lets the dog get away, just take him out in the yard, rub his nose in a cornback rattlesnake, and he'll get the message. :lol:;)
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  • remingtonoaks
    I'm not trying to be rude here. But you keep on coming back to the facts that the dog should be kept inside. To me that is cruel to do to a dog that wants to be outside. That is showing it by bolting every time you open the door. Like I said before you have to give the dog, either by teaching them or putting up a fence of where the boundaries lie or putting in an electronic boundary fence.

    Now I understand that some dogs will never learn boundaries. My dog is one of them, he is a Blue Tick Hound that instincts are to take off running and try to find a raccoon to tree. I would never be able to teach him boundaries off of a leash so I put up a fence. Then trust me, and electronic boundary fence would never have worked for him. He would have just endured the shock to get to the other side

    Now I know that a fence is not cheap. But nobody said that owning a dog would be cheap... but if you do not spend the time to teach the dog the boundaries, or the dog is incapable of learning them such as a coonhound, it is your responsibility to put up a fence of some sort that will make sure the dog does not cross boundaries. To keep them locked up inside is cruel in my opinion. That's like having a child and never letting them outside in my opinion

    Now I know that not everybody can own a dog like what you described. Certain people need dogs of certain personalities. If you you don't want to have a dog with such personalities, have you ever considered giving it to somebody that does want a dog with that personality, and finding a dog that fits more to what you want in a dog?

    Again, I'm not trying to be rude or insensitive. I'm just pointing out the obvious, that your dog's personality and what you want in a dog is not one in the same thing in my opinion
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  • Mark G
    I'm not trying to be rude here. But you keep on coming back to the facts that the dog should be kept inside. To me that is cruel to do to a dog that wants to be outside. That is showing it by bolting every time you open the door. Like I said before you have to give the dog, either by teaching them or putting up a fence of where the boundaries lie or putting in an electronic boundary fence.

    Now I understand that some dogs will never learn boundaries. My dog is one of them, he is a Blue Tick Hound that instincts are to take off running and try to find a raccoon to tree. I would never be able to teach him boundaries off of a leash so I put up a fence. Then trust me, and electronic boundary fence would never have worked for him. He would have just endured the shock to get to the other side

    Now I know that a fence is not cheap. But nobody said that owning a dog would be cheap... but if you do not spend the time to teach the dog the boundaries, or the dog is incapable of learning them such as a coonhound, it is your responsibility to put up a fence of some sort that will make sure the dog does not cross boundaries. To keep them locked up inside is cruel in my opinion. That's like having a child and never letting them outside in my opinion

    Now I know that not everybody can own a dog like what you described. Certain people need dogs of certain personalities. If you you don't want to have a dog with such personalities, have you ever considered giving it to somebody that does want a dog with that personality, and finding a dog that fits more to what you want in a dog?

    Again, I'm not trying to be rude or insensitive. I'm just pointing out the obvious, that your dog's personality and what you want in a dog is not one in the same thing in my opinion

    The dogs can push the front glass door open and roam around the front yard whenever they want. Its nice, they have a big fenced in area with trees and grass. They bark at whatever passes and have a covered porch to lay on and judge the horses that are across the road.

    The dogs have an outside area to run. Fenced front yard vs open back yard. I have 2 Treeing Walker Coonhounds that will never be able to walk off a leash in an unfenced area. It's a chore for us trying to keep visitors from holding the back door open so the dogs don't dart out. They have a large fenced area to run and play so exercise is not a problem. Some friends have a St. Barnard that has a shock collar and the barrier. They keep finding him outside the barrier sitting and waiting for the juice to be turned off so he can come back in. Seems he runs thru it in the excitement and the shock happens so quickly it's ineffective. He knows where the border is. He just chooses to ignore it if the distraction is too great. Sounds like Kasey has everything that the dogs need.
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  • Locust Fork
    The dogs have a HUGE fenced in area with grass, shade, lots of room to run and places to lounge about if they want. If I could come back as one of our dogs I would in a heartbeat. These suckers get 5 treats a day, two meals, trips to the groomer, never missed a trip to the vet. Its insane how nice they have it. We started with a Cocker Spaniel.....she needed a buddy, so we got a Pomeranian.....then I ended up visiting a Golden Retriever breeder's facility (the parents of someone that used to work for me) and HAD to have one. Larry wanted an English Bulldog, so that happened one Christmas. Over time we took in the St Bernard that my daughter got from a rescue. She also had a Bull Terrier that we found a home for because 6 dogs was just too much. We kept the St Bernard outside for a while until I just couldn't stand it and took her to the groomer, shaved her down and let her in too. The cocker spaniel lived to be 14. The Pomeranian was 17 when he passed. Soon after that my Golden died, he was 13. I didn't think I was ever going to get another dog. Losing them is just too hard. They are like toddlers that never grow up in the family. They get SO EXCITED over things, mischievous, sweet, funny, its just a lot of fun to have dogs.....but when they go its a sucker punch for sure.

    If I had my pick I think I'd go with another Golden, but that Pomeranian was a lot of fun too......but that Cocker Spaniel was SOOO smart and pretty.....its just too hard to say one was better than the other. The Golden was like having an angel covered in bunny fur in your home though.

    We took in the stray though, so this is what we are doing. I'm going to win this battle of the back door!
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