Aeolus Chinese tires, range report
Just in case someone is in the market for heavy duty tires
Purchased 03/11/17, total milage 131,271.
Garbage, absolute garbage and will never again purchase these. Just changed rear trailer axle, all 4 tires shot, 1 serious cupping exposing cords, 2 with chunks of tread missing and one split sidewall resulting in a flat. Trailer tirrd should last over 200,000 miles, my drive tires have the same milage and still look new.
Trailer had new bushings, shocks and alignment prior to purchase. Pressures checked weekly while cold, never more than 10PSI variance and maintained at 100PSI. Wheel bearings reset after inner hub seal replacement and slack adjuster tube replacement last July on all 4 hubs. Trailer is a spread and has dual dump valves to relax either axle on tight turns, these are used religiously to prevent tire and suspension damage.
Front axle had two replaced under warranty, failed within 90 days, serious cupping and tread seperation.
I bought these as a test, they failed misserably, never again, trailer is now sporting 4 new Kelly tires.
Purchased 03/11/17, total milage 131,271.
Garbage, absolute garbage and will never again purchase these. Just changed rear trailer axle, all 4 tires shot, 1 serious cupping exposing cords, 2 with chunks of tread missing and one split sidewall resulting in a flat. Trailer tirrd should last over 200,000 miles, my drive tires have the same milage and still look new.
Trailer had new bushings, shocks and alignment prior to purchase. Pressures checked weekly while cold, never more than 10PSI variance and maintained at 100PSI. Wheel bearings reset after inner hub seal replacement and slack adjuster tube replacement last July on all 4 hubs. Trailer is a spread and has dual dump valves to relax either axle on tight turns, these are used religiously to prevent tire and suspension damage.
Front axle had two replaced under warranty, failed within 90 days, serious cupping and tread seperation.
I bought these as a test, they failed misserably, never again, trailer is now sporting 4 new Kelly tires.
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you had me at "Chinese" 0 -
Don't replace them with Nascar's Goodyears! They are only good for about 40 laps. Hahahahahaha 0 -
Just bought two rears for my zero turn..chinese. Of course it isn't about speed or heat. 0 -
How did you get by all those DOT check points without something being said or done, that damage didn't happen overnight :? 0 -
All Chinese tires are junk. Even for passenger cars. I wouldn't have thought them to be any better for semis
I truly think Dot should outlaw them no matter what the application is.0 -
I put Maxxis 8008's on the toyhauler after the chinkabomb tire problems I had when newer.
https://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-122-129-st-radial-m8008
One blew and luckily I was only going 30 mph. Still made a mess of the trailer side.
Chinkabomb tire failures are well known here- www.rv.net
I went up to load range E also.0 -
Junkballer wrote:How did you get by all those DOT check points without something being said or done, that damage didn't happen overnight :?
The only one that would have gotten me in trouble was the one with the cords showing, the cords were exposed in about a week. Was going to try and get it back to Montana where there is no sales tax but when I had the flat that ended that plan. Was kinda hoping it would blow but it never did.0 -
BSR, When you're in need of tires again, call me. I'll get you a deal on whatever you want. Of course we sell most brands (but definitely not Aeolus), but we are a Michelin, BFG, Uniroyal dealer. I can normally sell Uniroyal for what you can buy those Aeolus for.
We ended up with about 40 used tires in a trade truck deal with the local Freightliner dealer. Included in those were 2 nice Aeolus drive tires. We gave them away.0 -
mjrfd99 wrote:I put Maxxis 8008's on the toyhauler after the chinkabomb tire problems I had when newer.
https://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-122-129-st-radial-m8008
One blew and luckily I was only going 30 mph. Still made a mess of the trailer side.
Chinkabomb tire failures are well known here- www.rv.net
I went up to load range E also.
That's crazy! For trailer tires, the 10 ply Maxxis M8008 is what I recommend most. We've never had a failure, and it is what I run on my own trailers.0 -
The Aeolus HN06 is the best spread axle tire sold, it will out perform all takers, we have gained this knowledge through testing by dozens of customers. There is a tire wear catalog from the tire manufacturers association available that will tell you want caused the cupping and uneven wear you experienced. Most of these issues can be found to be suspension, mainly shocks and bushings or improper mounting. If the wheels were not properly cleaned before the new tire was mounted it will cause the bead to not fully seat. When the bead is not seated fully that side of the tire will collapse a small amount causing it to wear unevenly and show what you illustrate in your pictures.
We sell tens of thousands of AEOLUS TBR tires and I assure you from the pics two things become apparent. First, you have chipping damage from some road hazard, second the wear on the the second picture is from misalignment. Those are NOT tire construction or quality issues. We sell all brands of tires; our favorite are the ones that give the best cost per mile of use. Over 90% of tires that are returned on wheels for adjustment show either suspension issues or the wheel was never properly cleaned prior to mounting indicating the tire was never properly mounted to begin with.
When you have the new tires installed make sure the wheels are properly cleaned with a die grinder using a wire wheel. Make sure the beads are on the wheel evenly, evidenced by a even line around the wheel and they use the PROPER tire bed lube when mounting. I would also inspect your bushings and shocks for wear. Those two items are the culprit in many tire issues on trailers.0 -
We Never, Ever, mount Chinese tires to any Trailer going out of our doors - attached to any Trailer we have made. 10,500 out our Manufacturing facility last year alone. 49,500 out of our five plants.
Michelin, BF Goodrich, etc. etc. Only.
I have never, in 5 years seen a non-American made tire on our premises.
We mount, balance and insure proper alignment of the Suspension at my Station, (last 3 moves before a completed Trailer exits our doors.) About 15-19 times a day, everyday. On our Line shift.
I think I know what I am talking about.0 -
bought a 18' car trailer ....couple of years later going to make a 180 mile run to the lake place..noticed the tires were shedding full depth tread...????? steel belts showing in spots????? yepper chinee tires ..went to local co-op and said i wanted goodyear trailer tires 6ply ..they put them on and when i got ready to make my run i noticed they were 6 ply (thread no steel) AND they said goodyear followed by MADE IN CHINA...last tire i ever bought from them...some time later went to a firestone dealer and we looked at two sets of tires....made in Costa Rica.......adios 0 -
BSR
I had no idea Truck tire would and should last that long!
I knew trucks put down some miles but over 130000 miles in a year! All I can is wow that is over 350 miles a day every day.
I try not to buy anything made in China but it tough. Good report I will stay away from chingchong tires0 -
KenK/84Bravo wrote:We Never, Ever, mount Chinese tires to any Trailer going out of our doors - attached to any Trailer we have made. 10,500 out our Manufacturing facility last year alone. 49,500 out of our five plants.
Michelin, BF Goodrich, etc. etc. Only.
I have never, in 5 years seen a non-American made tire on our premises.
We mount, balance and insure proper alignment of the Suspension at my Station, (last 3 moves before a completed Trailer exits our doors.) About 15-19 times a day, everyday. On our Line shift.
I think I know what I am talking about.
Your company has OEM contracts with the big tire makers. They buy tires cheaper than you can imagine. OEM keeps the plants humming, retail aftermarket is where they make money. EAST Manufacturing makes a ton of trailers, the OEM Contracts they have are untouchable.
By the by; in the last three years (I checked the sales records today) I have sold 9,942 AEOLUS 255/70/22.5 tires and 3,558 11R/22.5 AEOLUS tires to one manufacturing customer. We have not had a single tire warranty claim from them for any reason.
If the Trailer is aligned but the tractor is not aligned with the trailer it will cause similar tire wear to what we see in BSR's pics. I have no dog in the tire fight. I am straight salary, have zero alliance to any brand of tires but I am going to report on what I see. If I can get a pic to load I will try to post a pic on the wear pattern we see on BSR's tires and what the root causes are.0 -
Sam06 wrote:BSR
I had no idea Truck tire would and should last that long!
I knew trucks put down some miles but over 130000 miles in a year! All I can is wow that is over 350 miles a day every day.
I try not to buy anything made in China but it tough. Good report I will stay away from chingchong tires
Good tires on a properly maintained truck, trailer can last up to 300K miles. Obviously, alignment, bearing play, fifth wheel grease, inflation, etc, can play a role in premature wear.0 -
bpost wrote:KenK/84Bravo wrote:We Never, Ever, mount Chinese tires to any Trailer going out of our doors - attached to any Trailer we have made. 10,500 out our Manufacturing facility last year alone. 49,500 out of our five plants.
Michelin, BF Goodrich, etc. etc. Only.
I have never, in 5 years seen a non-American made tire on our premises.
We mount, balance and insure proper alignment of the Suspension at my Station, (last 3 moves before a completed Trailer exits our doors.) About 15-19 times a day, everyday. On our Line shift.
I think I know what I am talking about.
Your company has OEM contracts with the big tire makers. They buy tires cheaper than you can imagine. OEM keeps the plants humming, retail aftermarket is where they make money. EAST Manufacturing makes a ton of trailers, the OEM Contracts they have are untouchable.
By the by; in the last three years (I checked the sales records today) I have sold 9,942 AEOLUS 255/70/22.5 tires and 3,558 11R/22.5 AEOLUS tires to one manufacturing customer. We have not had a single tire warranty claim from them for any reason.
If the Trailer is aligned but the tractor is not aligned with the trailer it will cause similar tire wear to what we see in BSR's pics. I have no dog in the tire fight. I am straight salary, have zero alliance to any brand of tires but I am going to report on what I see. If I can get a pic to load I will try to post a pic on the wear pattern we see on BSR's tires and what the root causes are.
The first two to go were inside tires on the front axle, those were warrantied by Loves. The replacements are wearing even even though they have worn faster than normal, the compound is just too soft.
The batch on the rear axle has been wearing fast but fine, life expectancy is a dissapointment. The cupping started on that one inside tire about 10,000 miles ago and I?ve been watching it daily. Cords started to appear on my last trip east so about 2500 miles and seemed to stop at the level it was at when I took the pic. I had plans to seap that back axle out when I got home but yesterday I had a flat. I aired it up and was looking for a nail or similar but found the inner sidewall split about 2? maybe 1? from the bead, wasn?t tore but was a seperation. So all four of those tires were swapped out.
I rebuilt the bottom of that trailer with new bushings and shocks and aligned it to the kingpin. Last summer I rebuilt the hubs. Truck alignment is within factory specs and the only issue I have is the Goodyear steers chase road defects. If there is a tiny groove in the road the truck follows it. On good pavement I can get the trailer and drive tires to the center line then the fog line checking truck/trailer alignment and they are good, I can let go of the wheel and it tracks straight.
And like I said, I have two electric dumps, one for each axle and can control them from the cab (fun scaring pedestrians when I flip a switch and that air lets go) and I never turn with both axles planted, one or the other is relaxed on turns plus dropping that back axle makes that a 38?er when backing up.
I?ve never seen tires wear out this fast, my drive tires which are Aeolus have been on the same amount of time and for the most part still look new even though they shake at 80MPH.0 -
Big Sky Redneck wrote:bpost wrote:KenK/84Bravo wrote:We Never, Ever, mount Chinese tires to any Trailer going out of our doors - attached to any Trailer we have made. 10,500 out our Manufacturing facility last year alone. 49,500 out of our five plants.
Michelin, BF Goodrich, etc. etc. Only.
I have never, in 5 years seen a non-American made tire on our premises.
We mount, balance and insure proper alignment of the Suspension at my Station, (last 3 moves before a completed Trailer exits our doors.) About 15-19 times a day, everyday. On our Line shift.
I think I know what I am talking about.
Your company has OEM contracts with the big tire makers. They buy tires cheaper than you can imagine. OEM keeps the plants humming, retail aftermarket is where they make money. EAST Manufacturing makes a ton of trailers, the OEM Contracts they have are untouchable.
By the by; in the last three years (I checked the sales records today) I have sold 9,942 AEOLUS 255/70/22.5 tires and 3,558 11R/22.5 AEOLUS tires to one manufacturing customer. We have not had a single tire warranty claim from them for any reason.
If the Trailer is aligned but the tractor is not aligned with the trailer it will cause similar tire wear to what we see in BSR's pics. I have no dog in the tire fight. I am straight salary, have zero alliance to any brand of tires but I am going to report on what I see. If I can get a pic to load I will try to post a pic on the wear pattern we see on BSR's tires and what the root causes are.
The first two to go were inside tires on the front axle, those were warrantied by Loves. The replacements are wearing even even though they have worn faster than normal, the compound is just too soft.
The batch on the rear axle has been wearing fast but fine, life expectancy is a dissapointment. The cupping started on that one inside tire about 10,000 miles ago and I?ve been watching it daily. Cords started to appear on my last trip east so about 2500 miles and seemed to stop at the level it was at when I took the pic. I had plans to seap that back axle out when I got home but yesterday I had a flat. I aired it up and was looking for a nail or similar but found the inner sidewall split about 2? maybe 1? from the bead, wasn?t tore but was a seperation. So all four of those tires were swapped out.
I rebuilt the bottom of that trailer with new bushings and shocks and aligned it to the kingpin. Last summer I rebuilt the hubs. Truck alignment is within factory specs and the only issue I have is the Goodyear steers chase road defects. If there is a tiny groove in the road the truck follows it. On good pavement I can get the trailer and drive tires to the center line then the fog line checking truck/trailer alignment and they are good, I can let go of the wheel and it tracks straight.
And like I said, I have two electric dumps, one for each axle and can control them from the cab (fun scaring pedestrians when I flip a switch and that air lets go) and I never turn with both axles planted, one or the other is relaxed on turns plus dropping that back axle makes that a 38?er when backing up.
I?ve never seen tires wear out this fast, my drive tires which are Aeolus have been on the same amount of time and for the most part still look new even though they shake at 80MPH.
If they sold you the HN808's they were not taking the spread axle into account. The 808 is a line haul tire not designed for spread axle applications.
http://www.aeolustires.com/MRT/HN808.html
The HN06 has proven to be a real winner for spread axle apps for our customers. It is tough, resists scrubbing and is a excellent value.
http://www.aeolustires.com/MRT/HN06.html0 -
bpost wrote:The Aeolus HN06 is the best spread axle tire sold, it will out perform all takers, we have gained this knowledge through testing by dozens of customers. There is a tire wear catalog from the tire manufacturers association available that will tell you want caused the cupping and uneven wear you experienced. Most of these issues can be found to be suspension, mainly shocks and bushings or improper mounting. If the wheels were not properly cleaned before the new tire was mounted it will cause the bead to not fully seat. When the bead is not seated fully that side of the tire will collapse a small amount causing it to wear unevenly and show what you illustrate in your pictures.
We sell tens of thousands of AEOLUS TBR tires and I assure you from the pics two things become apparent. First, you have chipping damage from some road hazard, second the wear on the the second picture is from misalignment. Those are NOT tire construction or quality issues. We sell all brands of tires; our favorite are the ones that give the best cost per mile of use. Over 90% of tires that are returned on wheels for adjustment show either suspension issues or the wheel was never properly cleaned prior to mounting indicating the tire was never properly mounted to begin with.
When you have the new tires installed make sure the wheels are properly cleaned with a die grinder using a wire wheel. Make sure the beads are on the wheel evenly, evidenced by a even line around the wheel and they use the PROPER tire bed lube when mounting. I would also inspect your bushings and shocks for wear. Those two items are the culprit in many tire issues on trailers.
Yep
There is a man who knows tires!
Half the people are running on Asian tires and don't know it.0 -
chiefr wrote:bpost wrote:The Aeolus HN06 is the best spread axle tire sold, it will out perform all takers, we have gained this knowledge through testing by dozens of customers. There is a tire wear catalog from the tire manufacturers association available that will tell you want caused the cupping and uneven wear you experienced. Most of these issues can be found to be suspension, mainly shocks and bushings or improper mounting. If the wheels were not properly cleaned before the new tire was mounted it will cause the bead to not fully seat. When the bead is not seated fully that side of the tire will collapse a small amount causing it to wear unevenly and show what you illustrate in your pictures.
We sell tens of thousands of AEOLUS TBR tires and I assure you from the pics two things become apparent. First, you have chipping damage from some road hazard, second the wear on the the second picture is from misalignment. Those are NOT tire construction or quality issues. We sell all brands of tires; our favorite are the ones that give the best cost per mile of use. Over 90% of tires that are returned on wheels for adjustment show either suspension issues or the wheel was never properly cleaned prior to mounting indicating the tire was never properly mounted to begin with.
When you have the new tires installed make sure the wheels are properly cleaned with a die grinder using a wire wheel. Make sure the beads are on the wheel evenly, evidenced by a even line around the wheel and they use the PROPER tire bed lube when mounting. I would also inspect your bushings and shocks for wear. Those two items are the culprit in many tire issues on trailers.
Yep
There is a man who knows tires!
Half the people are running on Asian tires and don't know it.
Double Yep!!
Here at the campground, we see a LOT of RV tires with blow-outs, troubles.
I've found that the reason the "China Bombs" have gotten a bad rep. is really because of wrong tires put on the RV's. Load ranges are second to the price tag.
Price of the tires is the main reason for failures.
Many RV trailer owners think a $79 tire will be as good as a $120 tire.
China makes many things cheaper because their cheap items are just much lower quality. Buy top end items and you get top end performance.
I don't care where it was made...Buy cheap and you get cheap.0 -
babun wrote:chiefr wrote:bpost wrote:The Aeolus HN06 is the best spread axle tire sold, it will out perform all takers, we have gained this knowledge through testing by dozens of customers. There is a tire wear catalog from the tire manufacturers association available that will tell you want caused the cupping and uneven wear you experienced. Most of these issues can be found to be suspension, mainly shocks and bushings or improper mounting. If the wheels were not properly cleaned before the new tire was mounted it will cause the bead to not fully seat. When the bead is not seated fully that side of the tire will collapse a small amount causing it to wear unevenly and show what you illustrate in your pictures.
We sell tens of thousands of AEOLUS TBR tires and I assure you from the pics two things become apparent. First, you have chipping damage from some road hazard, second the wear on the the second picture is from misalignment. Those are NOT tire construction or quality issues. We sell all brands of tires; our favorite are the ones that give the best cost per mile of use. Over 90% of tires that are returned on wheels for adjustment show either suspension issues or the wheel was never properly cleaned prior to mounting indicating the tire was never properly mounted to begin with.
When you have the new tires installed make sure the wheels are properly cleaned with a die grinder using a wire wheel. Make sure the beads are on the wheel evenly, evidenced by a even line around the wheel and they use the PROPER tire bed lube when mounting. I would also inspect your bushings and shocks for wear. Those two items are the culprit in many tire issues on trailers.
Yep
There is a man who knows tires!
Half the people are running on Asian tires and don't know it.
Double Yep!!
Here at the campground, we see a LOT of RV tires with blow-outs, troubles.
I've found that the reason the "China Bombs" have gotten a bad rep. is really because of wrong tires put on the RV's. Load ranges are second to the price tag.
Price of the tires is the main reason for failures.
Many RV trailer owners think a $79 tire will be as good as a $120 tire.
China makes many things cheaper because their cheap items are just much lower quality. Buy top end items and you get top end performance.
I don't care where it was made...Buy cheap and you get cheap.
Trucks are a far different world than RVs! First off a lot of folks pulling RVs and any trailer for that matter have no clue about weights, weight distribution and proper loading. When I worked at that truck shop in Bozeman they also worked on RVs and it made me sick to see some of these vacationers and the crap they do.
They look at that tag on their 1/2 ton truck, buy the biggest camper they can get then they load another ton of junk into the bed of the pickup and camper. They have no clue how heavy they are and they have no clue if the tires are rated for that.
I?m not saying they are all idiots but there are more idiots then you can imagine.
Truck tires are for more uniform and heavy enforcement of legal weights keeps most trucks within the tires rating. Exceptions are permitted loads on a non dedicated heavy haul truck. Heavy haul trucks are equipped with better tires and more of them to handle the weight and even distribute it across all tires and road surface.
Truck tires all have close to the same life expectancy when used within load ranges, truck tires that are maintained do not fail in a year0
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