NRA could 'shut down forever,'
Well, yay! Not likely, but yay for the thought.
NRA could 'shut down forever,' group warns in fundraising letter
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/nra-could-shut-down-forever-group-warns-in-fundraising-letter-194322998.html
"In November, alarm bells started to ring about the National Rifle Association?s finances. At the time, the gun rights group was reportedly unable to afford coffee for its employees. At the time, the news was just another financial hit for the organization that had been suffering from declining revenues and membership dues.
Now, in a fundraising letter sent this month, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre has warned that the NRA could shut down forever, blaming New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo."
More BS from Quisling HQ and Wayne La Pee Aire...the poor schmuck who makes over a million bucks yearly, selling out fundamental liberty and Amendment II.
Pffft.
NRA could 'shut down forever,' group warns in fundraising letter
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/nra-could-shut-down-forever-group-warns-in-fundraising-letter-194322998.html
"In November, alarm bells started to ring about the National Rifle Association?s finances. At the time, the gun rights group was reportedly unable to afford coffee for its employees. At the time, the news was just another financial hit for the organization that had been suffering from declining revenues and membership dues.
Now, in a fundraising letter sent this month, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre has warned that the NRA could shut down forever, blaming New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo."
More BS from Quisling HQ and Wayne La Pee Aire...the poor schmuck who makes over a million bucks yearly, selling out fundamental liberty and Amendment II.
Pffft.
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Why would you say yay to that? 0 -
Marketing gimmick at its finest, IMO. If he's blaming nobody but Cuomo for the possibility of it shutting down, it might be in his best interest to avoid any mirrors. 0 -
wpageabc wrote:Why would you say yay to that?
Umm, because the vaunted NRA has been in support of govt infringements of firearms since at least the 1920s. They have, historically and contemporaneously, partnered with govt to slow sell a vast array of gun control/infringements to trusting (and largely brainless) Americans for longer than any of us has trod this earth.
If they went away, then we could focus on actual liberty and the essential fundamental liberty to keep and bear arms, without them framing a quisling and false paradigm and back-door dealing, lying to everyone and actually drafting gun control.
Is this somehow new information?
I continue to be amazed at the willful ignorance and abject cognitive dissonance displayed by my fellow citizens.0 -
OK poser...
So you are going to represent us to fight the power?0 -
Why don't you post your rant on Twitter or Facebook where it belongs. 0 -
There is one organization that the anti gunners always point out as their pro gun enemy. That is the NRA . That should tell you something.
I have a great respect for all pro gun organizations that are fighting for our right. They all deserve our gratitude for what they do and what they accomplish for the gun owner. I am not going to micro mange any of them . They will either get my support via funding, or by expressing my gratitude for their existence. Those that stand and grumble about the NRA are not helping gun owners. Lead - follow - or get out of the way , stand and grumble will not accomplish anything good.
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Lol and a healthy snort.... For posting my assessment of the NRA and subsequently answering a members question directly I am now a 'poser' and should just go 'rant' on twitter or faceborg, so sayeth a couple 'new american' gun rights supporters and freedom warriors.
I wonder if either will address the substance or just continue a display of cognitive dissonance?0 -
I also own a thesaurus. 0 -
I ain't gonna pay for Wayne and other suits to go to Africa to pop something on my dime. No more fancy Vaca for them and let them dust off the Mr. Coffee for that cup of Folgers. 0 -
lt496 wrote:Lol and a healthy snort.... For posting my assessment of the NRA and subsequently answering a members question directly I am now a 'poser' and should just go 'rant' on twitter or faceborg, so sayeth a couple 'new american' gun rights supporters and freedom warriors.
I wonder if either will address the substance or just continue a display of cognitive dissonance?
It is like you never left! Don0 -
" a couple 'new american' gun rights supporters and freedom warriors."
As far as being new it is more likely you were still a gleam in you pappy's eye when I first joined the NRA. Just out of curiosity what organization are you helping fund that you think is doing a much better job ? Remember I said "help funding"0 -
lt496 wrote:Lol and a healthy snort.... For posting my assessment of the NRA and subsequently answering a members question directly I am now a 'poser' and should just go 'rant' on twitter or faceborg, so sayeth a couple 'new american' gun rights supporters and freedom warriors.
I wonder if either will address the substance or just continue a display of cognitive dissonance?
cog?ni?tive dis?so?nance
The state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.0 -
I see Lt496 hasn't changed a bit.
Now I am reminded as to why I haven't missed him a bit.
One of the loopholes the new software has admitted.0 -
A lesson on how to interpret words. Another baiting thread over the NRA. As for belonging to any organization that lobbies for the protection of the Second Amendment, is to help with many that will do better than NOTHING to defend against communism.
The NRA was an organization that promoted the marksmanship of many kinds of firearms. Mainly Military, to help with in times of armed conflict Men that had some familiarity with martial arms.
Then the NRA had to try and protect the right of the public to procure out of date martial arms to continue with the marksmanship programs. There was never any intension to become a lobby organization.
Today the socialists list the NRA as the no1 organization that blocks their way to getting what they want. I do not want to live in a NAZI type government that TAKES ALL of the firearms so that the government at will can then next come into your home and tell you how to live, who to alienate.
Is the NRA the perfect shield? No, the mission statement was to provide a marksmanship program for the U.S.A.. Now NRA has morphed into a lobbyist organization that has a bloated payroll and a leaderless mission other than to fight of socialists with their frivolous lawsuits. It is an organization that does not have a billionaire benefactor to cause havoc with the legal system.
The NRA should be what the original intention used to be. Marksmanship programs.
And then an organization should be made to lobby the Federal Government, and State Legislatures to continue with protecting the Right of ownership of all firearms as intended by the Second Amendment. Until then I will continue with my communication to my Federal Senators, Congressmen. State Senators, State Representatives, and keep my NRA membership until a lobby becomes available that can fight the socialists, communists that want to destroy our Country.
God Bless the U.S.A.!0 -
mnrivrat48 wrote:" a couple 'new american' gun rights supporters and freedom warriors."
As far as being new it is more likely you were still a gleam in you pappy's eye when I first joined the NRA. Just out of curiosity what organization are you helping fund that you think is doing a much better job ? Remember I said "help funding"
Judging by his post, it must be the DEMOCRAT party.0 -
wpageabc wrote:OK poser...
So you are going to represent us to fight the power?
https://youtu.be/8PaoLy7PHwk0 -
You eat an elephant one bite at a time. The NRA sells bites of the 2nd and it gets many of you to help pay for them. The NRA'a assaults against the 2nd are well documented. If the NRA fixed their political wing to full unflinching support of the 2nd I would send them a check. If they dropped their political wing and just focused on shooting sports and education I would send them a check. As long as they keep selling off the 2nd piecemeal I am gone to call them what they are. If some of you choose to support the incremental destruction of the 2nd by supporting an organization that participates in the process, that is your right. It is my right to fight against it. 0 -
Alpine wrote:
Now I am reminded as to why I haven't missed him a bit.
Are you sure it's a HE? Sounds more like a soccer mom talking to her liberal friends on facebook.0 -
lt496 wrote:wpageabc wrote:Why would you say yay to that?
Umm, because the vaunted NRA has been in support of govt infringements of firearms since at least the 1920s. They have, historically and contemporaneously, partnered with govt to slow sell a vast array of gun control/infringements to trusting (and largely brainless) Americans for longer than any of us has trod this earth.
If they went away, then we could focus on actual liberty and the essential fundamental liberty to keep and bear arms, without them framing a quisling and false paradigm and back-door dealing, lying to everyone and actually drafting gun control.
Is this somehow new information?
I continue to be amazed at the willful ignorance and abject cognitive dissonance displayed by my fellow citizens.
Refreshing to see true supporters of the 2a who see through the NRA BS! Great seeing you back in here Lt, been awhile.0 -
wpageabc wrote:OK poser...
So you are going to represent us to fight the power?
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
As with any group, the NRA/ILA does some positive things. On balance (as has been well documented for those who open their eyes) the group is more about the legislated accessibility firearms and accessories of which they approve than it is about the individual liberty represented by the 2nd Amendment.
Were the NRA to fold tomorrow, those who actually believe in the power of the individual over the collective will find another organization to support. So far as national firearms related advocacy groups such as the GOA, SAF, JPFO, etc. it will be an incredible step forward for individual liberty.
Those that believe in the historic stance of the NRA's approach to legislated access will gravitate towards groups such as Everytown for Gun Safety, Courage to Fight Gun Violence, The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence or some other group that also supports Federal involvement in the individual decision as to how one chooses to arm himself.
Have never given a dime to he NRA and never will. I have, however, given thousands of dollars to groups that are attempting to unwind some of the garbage that has been legislated because of the historical damage the NRA has done to our individual 2nd Amendment Liberty.0 -
bullshot wrote:I also own a thesaurus.
Same here:
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Liberals death by " law-suit". a common ploy now. They think they can control by bankrupting an orginisation. 0 -
Well said, and I am in full agreement.SCOUT5 wrote:You eat an elephant one bite at a time. The NRA sells bites of the 2nd and it gets many of you to help pay for them. The NRA'a assaults against the 2nd are well documented. If the NRA fixed their political wing to full unflinching support of the 2nd I would send them a check. If they dropped their political wing and just focused on shooting sports and education I would send them a check. As long as they keep selling off the 2nd piecemeal I am going to call them what they are. If some of you choose to support the incremental destruction of the 2nd by supporting an organization that participates in the process, that is your right. It is my right to fight against it.0 -
See what I mean? 0 -
For those doing the name calling.....how about some facts that disprove what LT said.
It is well known that the NRA has colluded with the government in the name of gun control. 1934, 1968....the list includes every piece of major anti-gun legislation ever passed.0 -
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guntech59 wrote:For those doing the name calling.....how about some facts that disprove what LT said.
It is well known that the NRA has colluded with the government in the name of gun control. 1934, 1968....the list includes every piece of major anti-gun legislation ever passed.
None of them can disprove what he said. The man speaks the truth and tells it like it is, we need more people like him.0 -
westernMDhunter wrote:guntech59 wrote:For those doing the name calling.....how about some facts that disprove what LT said.
It is well known that the NRA has colluded with the government in the name of gun control. 1934, 1968....the list includes every piece of major anti-gun legislation ever passed.
None of them can disprove what he said. The man speaks the truth and tells it like it is, we need more people like him.
Agreed!0 -
Love them, hate them, that?s your choice. This should never fell to the NATIONAL Rifle Association to address. Where were the state gun organizations during this? This is there fight. The Virginia Citizens Defense League has fought gun control issues in Richmond for years. www.vcdl.org
I?m not sure if I would be pleased if a national organization I supported spent resources to defend a state?s citizens who were to sorry to stand up for themselves.0 -
This post was an interesting exercise and one resulting much as I expected.
Glad to see a few honest men and critical thinkers are among the typical Fuddite NRA sycophants, who by the way, rarely address or even entertain that their strongly held beliefs in the Quisling NRA (the official govt approved gun privileges organization) are based on myth, propaganda, lies and deceit.
I had always hoped that with the passing of years and with the ever increasing attacks on individual liberty, particularly in the area of firearms, that the open shenanigans and duplicity of the NRA would cause even the most willfully ignorant to see what has been going on.
Sadly, nothing has improved and it has become obvious that whatever divide already exists between the outright domestic enemies and those who facilitate their evil -vs- those who support freedom, who grasp the big picture and who oppose this evil wherever and from whom ever it presents, is not going to dramatically change.
As for me, I have and continue to attempt to prompt people to question the current paradigm and to, perhaps, question in the face of a plethora of evidence, the peddled narratives and see the falsity for what it is.
Oh well.
Generally one must simply settle for exposing the diseased and blind fervent-minions who are at the root of the success of oppressive govt and the other enemies of individual liberty, such as the NRA.0
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