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  • mrmike08075
    Avoid New Jersey at all costs - do not transport firearms through the state of NJ - not a good idea for out of state residents.

    Unloaded and in separate cases in the trunk or truck box secured / locked

    Ammo in a secure storage site separate from the guns - not in the same compartment

    No NRA stickers or signs or hats or apparel calling attention to vehicle and guns

    Mike
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  • select-fire
    Mail the gun to an FFL up where you are going. Leave the pistola home. Washington DC, Penns. New Jersey, New York are not going to like you.
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  • ChrisStreett
    Maryland requires the weapon/ammo to be separate and locked in an inaccessible area of the vehicle such as the trunk. No concealed or other carry allowed without a MD issued permit.

    Let me know when you're coming Sam, I'm only about 8 miles off I-95, 30 miles north of Baltimore. I'll be happy to put ya up, or, if you're going straight through, at the very least take ya to supper.
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  • Sam06
    ChrisStreett wrote:
    Maryland requires the weapon/ammo to be separate and locked in an inaccessible area of the vehicle such as the trunk.

    Let me know when you're coming Sam, I'm only about 8 miles off I-95, 30 miles north of Baltimore. I'll be happy to put ya up, or, if you're going straight through, at the very least take ya to supper.

    I will do that.

    You know its a sad state of affairs reading the posts above. I am disparaging anyone just the fact that most people are telling me to either stay home or if I do carry, I may as will not even bother.

    Mike I don't think I can have hollow point ammo in NJ either.............WTF :cry:
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  • ChrisStreett
    Yep, hollow points are a no go in NJ, even for off-duty LEO's. They have to swap ammo when leaving work and must carry low capacity mags as well. There's serious prison time attached to any violations. They enforce these draconian laws vigorously and unrepentedly.
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  • mrmike08075
    The possession of hollow point ammo during the commission of any crime acts as a charge modifier / multiplier or sentence enhancer

    It's legal to legally use hollow points - for hunting or target shooting or home defense and only becomes an issue if connected to other criminal activity

    Sadly police officers often (in NJ seem to understand the laws or receive proper training from designated department personnel)

    Think body armor or protective gear being called bullet proof vests when every LEO should understand the difference - as even today most standard issue body armor will not stop any rifle rounds (lacking dragon skin or overlapping Kevlar composite weave or impact absorption frangible insert plates)

    There was an incident were during a traffic stop officers noted rounds of loose ammo on the floor of the car under the drivers seat (hollowpoint)

    The officers in question tuned him up quite a bit extracting him from the vehicle and used a wee bit of excessive force on him at the scene - and he got a Philly E-ticket ride on the way to lock up

    A lawsuit ensued.

    But being right is no comfort sometimes - so it's best to avoid hollowpoint ammo in NJ

    Mike
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  • WearyTraveler
    select-fire wrote:
    Mail the gun to an FFL up where you are going. Leave the pistola home. Washington DC, Penns. New Jersey, New York are not going to like you.
    You can actually mail the gun to yourself at your destination.

    Just has to be shipped to you, in care of whoever is at your destination (could even be a hotel). Then ship it home when you leave.

    Long guns can go USPS but hand guns need FedEx. But, either way, you can avoid sending to an FFL.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    mrmike08075 wrote:
    Avoid New Jersey at all costs - do not transport firearms through the state of NJ - not a good idea for out of state residents.

    Unloaded and in separate cases in the trunk or truck box secured / locked

    Ammo in a secure storage site separate from the guns - not in the same compartment

    No NRA stickers or signs or hats or apparel calling attention to vehicle and guns

    Mike



    Agreed. Lived up there for quite a while. NOT, a Gun Friendly State. Do not get caught transporting in that State. There are quite a few, on extended 3-5 year stays due to their (the States,) Idiocy and draconian sentencing guidlines.

    Hardened, repeated Felons due less than time, than some Law abiding Gun Owners.

    The Joke up there, was that if you shot an intruder in your house, you were likely to do more time than the Perp.
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  • ChrisStreett
    A few years back while I was still active, I had to travel north to Massachusetts for a three week HR school. We were being given access to a former state hospital building complex that was to be torn down. Part of the program involved typical training scenarios and high angle work while yet another segment dealt with various breaching methods including explosive entries, etc. I made the mistake (without giving dates, etc) of calling the NJ State Police regarding transiting their jurisdiction. I didn?t even begin to mention some of the, ahem, items that I?d be transporting aside from our regular weapons load and a few K extra rounds. I thought the damn trooper was gonna have a heart attack just about that. He got so wound up quoting me laws and regulations that I just hung up and took a chance running up thru there and NY, bridges, tunnels and all. I?ve often thought how badly things might have gone, given some of the ?other? tools of the trade I had on board, if I got stopped on one of those highways. Today I?d probably take the long way around thru PA.
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  • allen griggs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlBzre4-Krc

    For the Love of God listen to what Johnny Cash said.
    At least, don't take your guns to the town of Camden New Jersey.
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  • 11b6r
    Pennsylvania is a lovely state, would heartily recommend over NJ.

    Really. And I have a kid that LIVES in NJ.
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  • Toolman286
    NY is as bad or worse than NJ. Consider going up via Rt 81. You'll avoid the DC/Baltimore carbunkle.
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  • allen griggs
    The DC/Baltimore carbunkle. I have driven through there 4 times in the 18 wheeler. Nightmare! The two cities are 18 miles apart and both have Traffic From Hell. Rush hour, 'round the clock.
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  • bustedknee
    Life will be much simpler and much more pleasant if you just stay below the Mason Dixon Line.

    They be Yankees up thar!

    They not only think different than us and talk funny but they eat different than us. If you must go, take a supply of sweet tea and BBQ sauce.

    And be careful where you pahk your cah.
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  • mrmike08075
    While heavily involved in teaching as a range safety officer and firearms instructor / whilst greatly invested and involved in the gunshop - while on the recreational advisory committee and part of the civilian LEO review board...

    We would tell students - folk - women that if an intruder or bad actor or trespasser was in the confines of the home to shoot them with no hesitation

    (Officer I said stop or I will shoot - I identified myself as armed and having called 911 - he threatened me - he menaced me - he had what I thought was a weapon in his hand - he came at me...)

    Shoot center mass and always follow up with a a second shot (harder to sue in civil court if they have expired - harder for the family to sue with no living claimant)

    Better judged by 8 than carried by six - better to seek forgiveness than beg for permission

    In addition if an unwanted agent was performing ingress at a point of entry (coming in through a window or door or portal or breech way or hole)

    If you fire and hit - after administering a coup de grace - after initial damage assessment survey...

    If the interloper / intruder whence struck during attempted point of ingress breaching activity (while climbing through the window attempting to break in or gain entry) the assailant falls outside - your in trouble - get some help and push him partially of fully inside

    Mike
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  • Junkballer
    When and if you get there.......tell your brother to move South asap ;).... :lol:
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  • mrmike08075
    While heavily involved in teaching as a range safety officer and firearms instructor / whilst greatly invested and involved in the gunshop - while on the recreational advisory committee and part of the civilian LEO review board...

    We would tell students - folk - women that if an intruder or bad actor or trespasser was in the confines of the home to shoot them with no hesitation

    (Officer I said stop or I will shoot - I identified myself as armed and having called 911 - he threatened me - he menaced me - he had what I thought was a weapon in his hand - he came at me...)

    Shoot center mass and always follow up with a a second shot (harder to sue in civil court if they have expired - harder for the family to sue with no living claimant)

    Better judged by 8 than carried by six - better to seek forgiveness than beg for permission

    In addition if an unwanted agent was performing ingress at a point of entry (coming in through a window or door or portal or breech way or hole)

    If you fire and hit - after administering a coup de grace - after initial damage assessment survey...

    If the interloper / intruder whence struck during attempted point of ingress breaching activity (while climbing through the window attempting to break in or gain entry) the assailant falls outside - your in trouble - get some help and push him partially of fully inside

    Mike
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  • Mr. Perfect
    Six days on the road comes to mind.
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