Making Black Powder Guns
I saw where Brookwood mentioned buying barrels and things somewhere and i was wondering where you can buy these parts.
I THINK i can make the pistol stock and the rifle stock and if i buy 1 kit gun i think i could make the parts myself the next time.
However i do not want to mess with or try and make a barrel.
It would be nice to give my 4 kids and 5 grand kids a black powder rifle and a pistol that i made and leave to them.
It would be cool if i could engrave something on the gun behind the butt plate or under the brass thing on the stock.
I can not engrave at all so it has to be hid. I can not draw a stick figure. LOL
My cousin has his own machine shop so i have access to mills and lathes.
Where is a good place to get barrels and things.
I THINK i can make the pistol stock and the rifle stock and if i buy 1 kit gun i think i could make the parts myself the next time.
However i do not want to mess with or try and make a barrel.
It would be nice to give my 4 kids and 5 grand kids a black powder rifle and a pistol that i made and leave to them.
It would be cool if i could engrave something on the gun behind the butt plate or under the brass thing on the stock.
I can not engrave at all so it has to be hid. I can not draw a stick figure. LOL
My cousin has his own machine shop so i have access to mills and lathes.
Where is a good place to get barrels and things.
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If you have access to a machine shop, why don't you go for the holy Grail and make your own barrels. Here's a YouTube video on how to rifle them and he doesn't even have a machine shop.
I think it would mean more to your kids and grandkids if you went so far as to make your own barrels to for them too..at least I would think it would be way more cooler if my grandpa built a firearm including rifling Barrel instead of just buying one
Just an idea
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Making a barrel is a good thought but if you really want to end up with an accurate rifle and not spend a small fortune for special tools and machinery, I do not recommend it.
A ready made barrel of good quality is expensive enough these days!
The last barrel I bought from Rice barrel company set me back about 280 dollars but it is a beautiful 42" swamped, light weight barrel in 32 caliber for future squirrel hunting. These fine barrels will make very fine long arms that even Davy Crockett would be proud to own! That IS, if you do your part and spend a lot of time studying the old masters and go out and handle a lot of good rifles.
I must admit that I have been into this obsession for more than 30 years. I have what is known as black powder in my veins and there is no cure!
Dave, if you are serious and would like to chat privately, I will post my e-mail here temporarily and not bore our good friends here with more of this. [:)]0 -
Dixie Gun Works in Union City, Tn. Everything black powder and more.
I have built several rifles from parts and restored several old ones since the 60s. Turner Kirkland probably started the black powder interest and also the reproduction industry in the 50s. Just looking thru the catalog is fun and you learn a lot.0 -
I had a jeweler engrave my name on the patch box. Most have a machine to do it and it's not expensive. 0 -
It seems lots of folks like to say that they built a gun when all they did was assemble one. 0 -
Truthful .....I agree...most just assemble guns and knife kits and like to think they built something..[?][?] 0 -
I can not build one on my own. However i can copy one. I have all the tools for woodworking. I have a milling machine and 3 wood lathes.
However i do not have a metal lathe. Or a forge. Im willing to try new things.
I will try and make a barrel but before i give a barrel to ANYBODY it will have to be tested at least 500 times and use more powder than anybody will use.
The thought of hurting anybody by accident is a big big concern of mine.
I will put it on a sled and pull it with a string lol.0 -
I built the rifle hanging above the fireplace, which, I also built.
This is a Tennessee Mountain Rifle kit from Dixie. I bought this kit 30 years ago and it used to be the mainstay of the Dixie line. They no longer sell it.
This is a tricky gun for a kit. The stock is routed out for the barrel but you have to inlet for the lock and the patch box, pretty tricky. You hold the lock over a candle and get soot on it and press against the stock and then, you carefully carve out the dark areas.
This is a fifty caliber with a twist for round ball of course. Very accurate and reliable rifle and I have killed 3 deer with it.
The barrel was, of all things, made in Japan. I didn't mind that too much but first thing I did was to file off the "made in Japan" marking on the barrel. The barrel was raw steel and I had to brown it.
I really got a lot of satisfaction out of building this gun. It is a percussion lock gun.0 -
Allen thats a nice looking rifle. You did good. Also the fireplace is nice. I think rocks look better than brick. 0 -
Thank you. Past lives. I think I was Daniel Boone's buddy in Kentucky in 1785. 0 -
I made muzzle loading guns for 55 years or more. Look on the American kongrifle web site for good info. http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0
Either Jim Kibler or Jim Chambers sells the best kits. I built all mine from scratch. Check jwh-flintlocks.net. That's me.0 -
I have been to the Jim Chambers place near Asheville NC. I live just over the mountain from Jim Chambers.
That was 20 years ago but I remember he had some beautiful rifles for sale there. I wanted to buy but I was broke!
I might have to go pay him another visit I am now a truck driver with a little extra cash.
Dammit! I just looked through the web site. He sells only kits now. No finished rifles.
Damn, twenty years ago he had about 30 completed rifles hanging on the walls and ready to sell.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
I made muzzle loading guns for 55 years or more. Look on the American kongrifle web site for good info. http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?board=2.0
Either Jim Kibler or Jim Chambers sells the best kits. I built all mine from scratch. Check WWW.jwh-flintlocks.net. That's me.0 -
http://jwh-flintlocks.net/
Damn, Jerry, I just went to your web site. You are a real artisan! You make some beautiful rifles! I wonder what you were doing in 1785.
I built the Tennessee Mountain Rifle pictured above. I also built, my first rifle was a flintlock from a Dixie kit, it wasn't really a kit I picked individual stock, lock, and barrel etc from the Dixie catalog this was before computers. Once again the stock was routed for the barrel but I had to brown the barrel, and finish shaping the stock, and inlet for lock and patch box.
Now that rifle turned out real well but I couldn't get the damn thing to fire but about half the time and I had an expensive lock. I wanted to go deer hunting with my rifle.
Meanwhile, I was hunting with my T/C Hawken.
This was about 1980 no internet I had nobody I could turn to to make it work right I was just dealing mail order from Dixie. So it became a wall hanger and I built the Tennessee rifle as a percussion lock had 100 percent ignition with that. I did kill 3 deer with that rifle.
Well Jerry my hat is off to you what a craftsman you are! Damn you never know what kind of craftsmen will turn up on GB forums.0
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