OMG....NPB email....he just doesn't get it.
Guy....Hello, I have offered to pay the difference and received no response
Me....Pay the difference? Which gun??? I am not the person that handles the paperwork and I don't know what gun you won.
Guy....The relisting fee. It was a 1911
Me.....We don't normally let people just pay the fees, the process is followed through Gun Broker where they reimburse the fees because it is a waste of our time to have an auction ran with a bidder that doesn't follow through with the sale.
I don't know if you spoke with anyone, but that is our normal response when this happens.
Guy....Ok well there was a miscommunication at the time, but following through via GB seems like a good start point
(Filed the NPB Report, left his SECOND F feedback, relisted the gun)
Guy.....So how do we go about this?
Me.....Go about what????
Guy....Settling the NPB to get my account back. Never had to do this before
Me....You have two F feedbacks, we aren't the first
Guy.....The first to put up an NPB yes
Me.....You have two Fs.....obviously you have a bad habit of winning auctions you cannot pay for and "paying the fees" which just lets you continue to play around on the site and waste everyone's time. You need to stay off Gun Broker or pay for what you win.....end of story.
Guy.....I literally just told you why and how they explained they shouldn't have left those but I guess you don't want your money back. Bye.
Me.....I'll get my money from Gun Broker......bye
I swear, I will never understand the idiots that think paying the fees is an acceptable response to getting out of a sale.
This guy only has two feedbacks and they are both F's. There is no telling how many auctions he has "paid the fees" for.
Me....Pay the difference? Which gun??? I am not the person that handles the paperwork and I don't know what gun you won.
Guy....The relisting fee. It was a 1911
Me.....We don't normally let people just pay the fees, the process is followed through Gun Broker where they reimburse the fees because it is a waste of our time to have an auction ran with a bidder that doesn't follow through with the sale.
I don't know if you spoke with anyone, but that is our normal response when this happens.
Guy....Ok well there was a miscommunication at the time, but following through via GB seems like a good start point
(Filed the NPB Report, left his SECOND F feedback, relisted the gun)
Guy.....So how do we go about this?
Me.....Go about what????
Guy....Settling the NPB to get my account back. Never had to do this before
Me....You have two F feedbacks, we aren't the first
Guy.....The first to put up an NPB yes
Me.....You have two Fs.....obviously you have a bad habit of winning auctions you cannot pay for and "paying the fees" which just lets you continue to play around on the site and waste everyone's time. You need to stay off Gun Broker or pay for what you win.....end of story.
Guy.....I literally just told you why and how they explained they shouldn't have left those but I guess you don't want your money back. Bye.
Me.....I'll get my money from Gun Broker......bye
I swear, I will never understand the idiots that think paying the fees is an acceptable response to getting out of a sale.
This guy only has two feedbacks and they are both F's. There is no telling how many auctions he has "paid the fees" for.
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I noticed that several buyers on my feedback list are NO LONGER REGISTERED USERS. I got paid but I guess they forgot to pay some others and got booted, as they should be. There are a LOT of honest people out there that live up to their word and pay. The few that do not need banned to keep the integrity of the system up. 0 -
The thing that frustrates me are the sellers that let them pay the fees.....so these weenies dink around on the website wasting everyone's time. I am guessing he has never actually won and paid for anything with the two Fs he has. 0 -
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Sorry to hear that he doesn't think your time is worth anything. I can kind of understand it if he offered you the relisting fees Plus compensation for your time in doing so... But only kind of 0 -
Hope to not lock it up, but I filed a NPB on a bidder last year. Never received any credits, never even a response, bidder was booted. I learned also. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by randomnut
Hope to not lock it up, but I filed a NPB on a bidder last year. Never received any credits, never even a response, bidder was booted. I learned also.
The NPB process has several steps, it might seem like it is a bit overboard when you are going through it.....but the various steps do help to keep mistakes from happening (especially when you have as many transactions as we do.)
You file the payment reminder.....
After a little time passes you can file the actual Non Paying Bidder report.....
You have to leave feedback and RELIST the auction before they will reimburse your fees.0 -
One of my all time favorites was a guy who bid on two auctions with the identical make and model of gun simultaneously...
The rifle we were auctioning off was from a low numbers but hand finished high quality treaty of Versailles period versus one that was high number war time production done with several cost saving measures
He pursued and won both auctions - our rifle went for $1100.00 and the other went for $780.00
He wanted a nice example but did not care about variations and model changes - or production run numbers and time period
He explained that he had put Max bids on both guns of $2000.00 so he could be certain he won at least one of the auctions - he did not want to miss out on this type of rifle
So he naturally stated that he was rightly going to pay for the cheaper gun and send us a money order to cover our resisting the piece
He was quite proud of his "system" and saw nothing wrong with his tactics or behavior
It still makes me angry 18 years later
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LF jeez why waste time and temper on a blockhead ??? make him a NPB....non participating bidder...from here on out 0 -
[}:)]A restocking fee of 20-25%, with a minimum of $10, should do it. GB gets it's fees. The seller gets paid for their work and the buyer who may have had an emergency can skate.[}:)] *****No feed back***** 0 -
quote:Originally posted by chollagardens
[}:)]A restocking fee of 20-25%, with a minimum of $10, should do it. GB gets it's fees. The seller gets paid for their work and the buyer who may have had an emergency can skate.[}:)] *****No feed back*****
Noooo...anyone that plays around and lets this guy keep wasting seller's time is NOT helping things. What is the item going to sell for the second time around??? What do the people think that bid on the gun and see it going back up without the previous winner getting a big F rating??? Letting this nonsense happens does way more harm than people realize. You will lose customers if they think you have a shill bidder and running things multiple times can cost you way more than any "restocking fee" you might charge. They need to be weeded out of the system so their insanity doesn't affect any other sales.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
quote:Originally posted by chollagardens
[}:)]A restocking fee of 20-25%, with a minimum of $10, should do it. GB gets it's fees. The seller gets paid for their work and the buyer who may have had an emergency can skate.[}:)] *****No feed back*****
Noooo...anyone that plays around and lets this guy keep wasting seller's time is NOT helping things. What is the item going to sell for the second time around??? What do the people think that bid on the gun and see it going back up without the previous winner getting a big F rating??? Letting this nonsense happens does way more harm than people realize. You will lose customers if they think you have a shill bidder and running things multiple times can cost you way more than any "restocking fee" you might charge. They need to be weeded out of the system so their insanity doesn't affect any other sales.
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Spot on !!
You got it 100% correct. A relisting is usually a losing proposition.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
quote:Originally posted by chollagardens
[}:)]A restocking fee of 20-25%, with a minimum of $10, should do it. GB gets it's fees. The seller gets paid for their work and the buyer who may have had an emergency can skate.[}:)] *****No feed back*****
Noooo...anyone that plays around and lets this guy keep wasting seller's time is NOT helping things. What is the item going to sell for the second time around??? What do the people think that bid on the gun and see it going back up without the previous winner getting a big F rating??? Letting this nonsense happens does way more harm than people realize. You will lose customers if they think you have a shill bidder and running things multiple times can cost you way more than any "restocking fee" you might charge. They need to be weeded out of the system so their insanity doesn't affect any other sales.
BEEN THERE and you are CORRECT ON ALL POINTS!!! Deadbeats are here and they are a problem.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
quote:Originally posted by chollagardens
[}:)]A restocking fee of 20-25%, with a minimum of $10, should do it. GB gets it's fees. The seller gets paid for their work and the buyer who may have had an emergency can skate.[}:)] *****No feed back*****
Noooo...anyone that plays around and lets this guy keep wasting seller's time is NOT helping things. What is the item going to sell for the second time around??? What do the people think that bid on the gun and see it going back up without the previous winner getting a big F rating??? Letting this nonsense happens does way more harm than people realize. You will lose customers if they think you have a shill bidder and running things multiple times can cost you way more than any "restocking fee" you might charge. They need to be weeded out of the system so their insanity doesn't affect any other sales.
BEEN THERE and you are CORRECT ON ALL POINTS!!! Deadbeats are here and they are a problem.0
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