Gun theft at the local store
Had a man come down to Sheridan from Montana to so some shopping Friday evening. He stopped at a local gunshop and asked to see a Glock pistol. As soon as the clerk handed him the gun, he morphed into Jesse Owens and sprinted for the door. A few employees gave chase but they were seriously outmatched and were left in the dust. So the crook, we'll call him Einstein, decides he needs a way to get back up to Montana with his new pistol. He spots a car running in front of a house, hops in and takes off only to discover the gas gauge is on "E". Einstein is a problem solver and decides to head to the gas station closest to the interstate where he throws some gas in the car and then, being the consistent crook that he, drives off without paying for the fuel. He heads to the interstate but the police spot him and the chase is on! Being unfamiliar with the streets in town, he leads police down a dead end road where he pulls over and attempts to load the pistol with ammo he had also stolen from the store. Fortunately, the police were able to get to him before he could load the gun and no one was injured....except for the bad guy who sustained some minor bruising about the face and head. He commented to the police that had he had time to load the gun, he would have happily shot one of them. This POS is looking at 15-20 years in prison, the local judge does not play games with violent offenders!
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too bad they did not leave him DRT
but less hassle for the LEO and congrats they caught the POS0 -
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I still remember the big gun store robbery in NJ when I was a kid still sweeping up at the gun shop I would grow up working in...
Edelman's was the shop - in short what happened was some staff came in to open up and discovered there had been a break in - about a dozen handguns had been grabbed...
The employees called some associates and other staff and they took all the class III stuff and machine guns for them selves - before calling police...
One of the group ultimately charged and convicted was a local police officer who worked at the shop and was in on the scam / theft...
Lots of folk got burned on that investigation when the feds and state police figured things out
Imagine those guys loading up the trunks of their cars with stuff before calling in the event.
Mike0 -
There was recently some NFA shenanigans involving one employee at a local store... but the "famous gun store (attempted) robbery" story around here is the (multiple) Harry Beckwith incidents. IIRC there were one or two before this one, and one or two after, but Ayoob documented one - all with the same MO of car through the front, grab and go.
http://afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html
The part that will get you to read the whole thing...
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He reached for the weapons he had laid out for just such a contingency.
First was a Charter Arms Bulldog revolver in an old Bucheimer crossdraw paddle holster. It slipped easily into place in front of his left hip. It was loaded with five rounds of his favorite .44 Special ammunition, Winchester Silvertip hollowpoint.
Next came the Model 76 submachine gun. One magazine was in place, the bolt properly closed, "condition three." More magazines were rubber-banded to the extended stock. Beckwith had found this to be a faster way to access them than to attach a pouch in the same place. He slung the licensed submachine gun over his right shoulder.
He picked up an AR-15, a gun he has always described as a "Colt Sporting Rifle." It contained one magazine downloaded to only 15 rounds. Another such magazine was banded to its plastic stock as well.
With the other hand, he scooped up a Remington Model 1100 12 gauge semiautomatic shotgun, already fully loaded.
Figuring he was ready for anything, Harry Beckwith quietly stepped out into the shadows, moving away from the house in the direction of the shop, some 100 paces distant.....0 -
quote:Originally posted by llama
There was recently some NFA shenanigans involving one employee at a local store... but the "famous gun store (attempted) robbery" story around here is the (multiple) Harry Beckwith incidents. IIRC there were one or two before this one, and one or two after, but Ayoob documented one - all with the same MO of car through the front, grab and go.
http://afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html
The part that will get you to read the whole thing...
quote:
Sounds like EBoydells Grandpappy
He reached for the weapons he had laid out for just such a contingency.
First was a Charter Arms Bulldog revolver in an old Bucheimer crossdraw paddle holster. It slipped easily into place in front of his left hip. It was loaded with five rounds of his favorite .44 Special ammunition, Winchester Silvertip hollowpoint.
Next came the Model 76 submachine gun. One magazine was in place, the bolt properly closed, "condition three." More magazines were rubber-banded to the extended stock. Beckwith had found this to be a faster way to access them than to attach a pouch in the same place. He slung the licensed submachine gun over his right shoulder.
He picked up an AR-15, a gun he has always described as a "Colt Sporting Rifle." It contained one magazine downloaded to only 15 rounds. Another such magazine was banded to its plastic stock as well.
With the other hand, he scooped up a Remington Model 1100 12 gauge semiautomatic shotgun, already fully loaded.
Figuring he was ready for anything, Harry Beckwith quietly stepped out into the shadows, moving away from the house in the direction of the shop, some 100 paces distant.....0 -
Back when I was in high school someone as smart as your guy came into my dad's gun store and grabbed a gun......took off down the front of the building and into the parking lot of a fast food place that was on the corner of the street. A couple police officers were in the store and chased him down the road. They "lost him" when he magically disappeared near the dumpster. They stood around talking about where he might be near the dumpster for about an hour. In the June heat that dumpster must have been something else.....especially with all that tossed out food in there.
He fell down the stairs on the way to the station too.....poor fella.0 -
I have read that Beckwith incident report before, but it was nice to read it again. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
I still remember the big gun store robbery in NJ when I was a kid still sweeping up at the gun shop I would grow up working in...
Edelman's was the shop - in short what happened was some staff came in to open up and discovered there had been a break in - about a dozen handguns had been grabbed...
The employees called some associates and other staff and they took all the class III stuff and machine guns for them selves - before calling police...
One of the group ultimately charged and convicted was a local police officer who worked at the shop and was in on the scam / theft...
Lots of folk got burned on that investigation when the feds and state police figured things out
Imagine those guys loading up the trunks of their cars with stuff before calling in the event.
Mike
I bought my first new gun at Edelmans on long Island,ny in 1973.
marlin 336 in .35 rem. with a scope. STILL have that gun. Still my
go to gun for deer in wooded areas.0 -
I like those places that has a lock out doors to keep them from opening the door. Some of them will do a face plant on the glass doors and bounce back [:D]. 0 -
Of course the one that rather sticks with me personally is when a party of 3 arrived at the shop with me alone behind the counter and attempted an armed robbery...
I would prefer never to have a similar experience - I would rather never clear leather and draw down in such circumstances for the remainder of my days...
And I invest great hope that none of you are ever placed in harms way in like fashion.
Mike0 -
Below is an article about the gun store robbery that affected me most. Colonial was a great little family owned LGS. It was sold to another LGS who moved in shortly after.
A Glen Burnie man shot and killed two people yesterday afternoon before he was fatally shot by an off-duty police officer who was the son of one of the victims, Anne Arundel County police said.
David Neal Wolle, 39, of Glen Burnie was killed by off-duty Anne Arundel police Officer John Hittle moments after Wolle killed Hittle's father, 59-year-old Charles C. Hittle Jr., police said.
The incident began just after 2 p.m. yesterday, police said, as Wolle left his apartment at 7501 Furnace Branch Rd. with a woman identified as Geanett happy. Police said happy's mother, 63-year-old Grace Cory, confronted the couple in the parking lot and began arguing with her daughter about leaving with the man.
During the argument, police said, Wolle went to his pickup truck and returned with a 12-gauge shotgun, firing at Cory and striking her in the chest. Cory, of Pasadena, Md., was pronounced dead at the scene.
Geanett happy then fled the scene screaming for help, police said. A woman in a car came to happy's aid, but Wolle forced the two out of the car and stole the vehicle, police said.
Wolle drove to the Colonial Arms gun shop at the corner of Old Annapolis Road and Maple Lane, police said. With a sawed-off shotgun, Wolle tried to rob the store of a .44-caliber handgun, police said.
During the robbery, the elder Hittle, who lived in Lithica, Md., came out from the rear of the store, which he owned, police said. At Wolle's command, Hittle raised his arms in the air and tried to calm Wolle, police said. However, Wolle fired the shotgun, striking Hittle in the head. Moments later, Hittle's son, a four-year police department veteran, appeared and fired once with a 9mm handgun, killing Wolle. An Anne Arundel police spokesman said police would investigate the younger Hittle's shooting of the gunman.0 -
Funny how things connect...
The LEO involved in the edlemans gun store robbery was also working part time at a local indoor range called crossroads - they were renting out lockers on site for firearms storage...
IE of the class III weapons he had taken from Edelman's he had kept a valmet rpk clone and and a grease gun...
He was storing them in his locker at the crossroads facility - the concept of gun storage rental lockers (anonymous or off books) is a bit shady in my opinion - might not be legal
Crossroads is were I first met Dave McClain who was selling garands and carbines and other US service weapons (he was in no way involved in the criminal activity)
Mike0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
Funny how things connect...
The LEO involved in the edlemans gun store robbery was also working part time at a local indoor range called crossroads - they were renting out lockers on site for firearms storage...
IE of the class III weapons he had taken from Edelman's he had kept a valmet rpk clone and and a grease gun...
He was storing them in his locker at the crossroads facility - the concept of gun storage rental lockers (anonymous or off books) is a bit shady in my opinion - might not be legal
Crossroads is were I first met Dave McClain who was selling garands and carbines and other US service weapons (he was in no way involved in the criminal activity)
Mike
Was this Crossroads in Philadelphia or right across the bridge in Palmyra, NJ?0 -
On the Jersey side after crossing the tacony Palmyra bridge - a brick faced warehouse space in a light industrial park - I think the location is now a siding sales place
My father and I were members at crossroads for many years
Mike0
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