Evil, pure disgusting evil from (D)'s
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) commented Wednesday about a controversial 40-week abortion bill and in so doing said the law allows an abortion to take place after the infant's birth.
"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that?s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.
A Democratic lawmaker in the Virginia House of Delegates proposed a bill Tuesday that would allow abortions through the end of the third trimester of pregnancy. The video of Delegate Kathy Tran presenting her bill led to an exchange where she admitted that her bill would allow for a mother to abort her child minutes before giving birth.
"How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated that it would impair the mental health of the woman?" Majority Leader Todd Gilbert (R.) asked.
"Or physical health," Tran said.
"Okay," Gilbert replied. "I'm talking about the mental health."
"I mean, through the third trimester," Tran said. "The third trimester goes up to 40 weeks."
"Okay, but to the end of the third trimester?" Gilbert asked.
"Yup, I don't think we have a limit in the bill," Tran said.
"Where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she's about to give birth, would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?" Gilbert asked. "She's dilating."
Tran responded that is a decision between the woman and her doctor would have to make. Gilbert asked if her bill would allow an abortion right before the infant was born.
"My bill would allow that, yes," Tran said.
NBC4 reporter Julie Carey asked Northam about the measure.
"Do you support her measure and explain her answer?" Carey asked.
"I wasn't there, Julie. And I certainly can't speak for delegate Tran. But I would tell you one, the first think I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved," Northam said. "When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it is done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that is non-viable."
Northam continued by saying government shouldn't be involved in these types of decisions and that legislators, especially male legislators, shouldn't be telling women what to do.
"I think this was really blown out of proportion. But again we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers. And this is why Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should or shouldn't be doing with her body," Northam said.
Carey asked if the law should still require women to have multiple physicians approve an abortion.
"Well, I think it is always good to get a second opinion and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision," Northam said. "These decisions shouldn't be taken lightly.
Northam's office released a statement about his comments.
"No woman seeks a third trimester abortion except in the case of tragic or difficult circumstances, such as a nonviable pregnancy or in the event of severe fetal abnormalities, and the governor?s comments were limited to the actions physicians would take in the event that a woman in those circumstances went into labor," Ofirah Yheskel, a spokeswoman for Northam, said. "Attempts to extrapolate these comments otherwise is in bad faith and underscores exactly why the governor believes physicians and women, not legislators, should make these difficult and deeply personal medical decisions,"
Update 4:24 p.m.: Article was updated to include Northam's statement.
"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that?s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.
A Democratic lawmaker in the Virginia House of Delegates proposed a bill Tuesday that would allow abortions through the end of the third trimester of pregnancy. The video of Delegate Kathy Tran presenting her bill led to an exchange where she admitted that her bill would allow for a mother to abort her child minutes before giving birth.
"How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated that it would impair the mental health of the woman?" Majority Leader Todd Gilbert (R.) asked.
"Or physical health," Tran said.
"Okay," Gilbert replied. "I'm talking about the mental health."
"I mean, through the third trimester," Tran said. "The third trimester goes up to 40 weeks."
"Okay, but to the end of the third trimester?" Gilbert asked.
"Yup, I don't think we have a limit in the bill," Tran said.
"Where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she's about to give birth, would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?" Gilbert asked. "She's dilating."
Tran responded that is a decision between the woman and her doctor would have to make. Gilbert asked if her bill would allow an abortion right before the infant was born.
"My bill would allow that, yes," Tran said.
NBC4 reporter Julie Carey asked Northam about the measure.
"Do you support her measure and explain her answer?" Carey asked.
"I wasn't there, Julie. And I certainly can't speak for delegate Tran. But I would tell you one, the first think I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved," Northam said. "When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it is done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that is non-viable."
Northam continued by saying government shouldn't be involved in these types of decisions and that legislators, especially male legislators, shouldn't be telling women what to do.
"I think this was really blown out of proportion. But again we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers. And this is why Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should or shouldn't be doing with her body," Northam said.
Carey asked if the law should still require women to have multiple physicians approve an abortion.
"Well, I think it is always good to get a second opinion and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision," Northam said. "These decisions shouldn't be taken lightly.
Northam's office released a statement about his comments.
"No woman seeks a third trimester abortion except in the case of tragic or difficult circumstances, such as a nonviable pregnancy or in the event of severe fetal abnormalities, and the governor?s comments were limited to the actions physicians would take in the event that a woman in those circumstances went into labor," Ofirah Yheskel, a spokeswoman for Northam, said. "Attempts to extrapolate these comments otherwise is in bad faith and underscores exactly why the governor believes physicians and women, not legislators, should make these difficult and deeply personal medical decisions,"
Update 4:24 p.m.: Article was updated to include Northam's statement.
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Governor Ralph ?Mengele? Northam is supposed to be a doctor. What happened to ?first, do no harm.??
Thank God he can?t run for governor again, though me may get someone worse.0 -
Thank you Lord that this Devil inspired bill was defeated!!
"The law would allow an abortion to take place after the infant's birth." An abortion can not take place after a babies birth. Only the MURDER OF THE BABY can take place after the babies live birth!!!
To what depths of moral depravity can the libtards/commie/socialistic pieces of filth take this country before WE THE PEOPLE RISE UP AND DELIVER RETROACTIVE ABORTIONS TO THESE PIECES OF FILTH??0 -
As long as DEMOCRATs are in positions of power and breathing, such bills will keep popping up and inevitably some will pass. No different than attack on your gun rights, these people are ideologically committed. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Governor Ralph ?Mengele? Northam is supposed to be a doctor. What happened to ?first, do no harm.??
Thank God he can?t run for governor again, though me may get someone worse.
Appears FIRST DO NO HARM is in the toilet just like Googles DO NO EVIL.
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The Liberals may have their party down here on Earth someday were all their laws have been passed... But God will judge them in the afterlife... Life here on Earth is but a blink of an eye. The party soon shall be over for them. 0 -
And yet we need more gun laws....... 0 -
What does this mean -
"How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated that it would impair the mental health of the woman?"
I take it to mean that if the woman giving birth would be sufficiently upset an abortion could be performed. How does one measure this "impairment"? It doesn't seem to me to lend itself to an objective or reasonably definitive assessment. So, we've managed to transition from something that could be fairly well assessed, physical health, to something rather difficult to determine, mental health.
And BTW, who gets to make the decision to abort - the "impaired" woman or the doctor, on behalf of the hospital or in some circumstances, the state?
I'm generally disinterested when it comes to abortion, but being sneaky tends to earn my opposition.0 -
quote:Originally posted by chiefr
As long as DEMOCRATs are in positions of power and breathing, such bills will keep popping up and inevitably some will pass. No different than attack on your gun rights, these people are ideologically committed.
They seem to be winning the balot-box slowly but surely and Hillary came damn close the last time. If and when they are the majority in all fifty states well then it is do or die for conservates.
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Our evil Governor of New York has been on a terror streak the past two weeks. Last week he passed the late term Baby Kill bill, it?s law here now. And two days ago he past more stupid Gun Laws that he couldn?t get passed before.
Last fall the Democrats won control of the state Senate. They already had control of the Assembly, and now that he has total power he is going to start pouring on the leftist hate filled laws he has wanted to for so long now.
Andy Cumo stated a few years ago that I was not wanted in NY state, because I was a conservative, pro-life, gun-loving, Christian. Well? his crazy law passing, and the lousy weather we have had the past two weeks has finally convinced me that I should heed his warning and get the hell out of here.
Right now I?m looking at real estate in east/central TN, and north east AL. I?m heading south just as soon as I can!...[:(!]
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I cant imagine the Dr that could perform this. Let alone the ones asking for it. Pure evil. Any abortion is murder. 0 -
The Dems are just sick. Its MURDER plain and simple. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Governor Ralph ?Mengele? Northam is supposed to be a doctor. What happened to ?first, do no harm.??
Thank God he can?t run for governor again, though me may get someone worse.
He messed up....his reputation has been that he's a moderate, and he lifted the veil and exposed the evil that resides underneath. He was a pediatric neurologist....frightening isn't it? Embarrassing for VMI that they contributed to his career.0 -
If they want to keep the government out of it, then ZERO tax dollars should be used for one. 0
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