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  • Mark G
    I have a Little Skeeters subgauge adapter from 12GA to 28GA so I have a Stevens 311 SXS in 12/28.
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  • select-fire
    I have 2 Little Skeeters in .410 for 12 gauge. They have no choke at all in them. I don't like punching the empties out. The Stevens is auto eject and full choke.
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  • roswellnative
    410: so you dont scatter the corn pile...
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  • 84Bravo1
    Savage 24V, .30-.30 over 20ga. Hard to find combo. Very nice wood. Simmons Pro Series Diamond reticle Shotgun scope. I believe you gave me the heads up on the auction Select.)


    I like it.




    First gun I ever bought for myself, was a Savage 24 .22mag. over 20ga.
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  • select-fire
    I have a Valmet 412 O/U in .308 / 12 gauge
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  • select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by roswellnative
    410: so you dont scatter the corn pile...


    Doves. I shoot 3" 8's in the .410. Very nice pattern out to 35Yd. Have gotten them farther but the odds go down. The bottom paradox barrel is deadly. It scatters a pattern 48" x 48" at 25 yds. Just plain hard to miss.
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    I have a "drilling" in 20 gauge and 7.62 x 38.5mm (whatever that is). Does that count? [:I]


    That rifle round is a short version of a russian/nagant smg cartridge.
    https://goo.gl/images/wNJ8Bk
    wNJ8Bk
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  • wpage
    So the eject does not work properly on this application of inserts 12 ga to 410?
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  • select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    So the eject does not work properly on this application of inserts 12 ga to 410?


    Mine works fine, shucks them right out after fired.It is a Savage 4 tenner which is about 18" long. However those Browning Skeeters have to manually remove the little tube and take a dowel and punch out the empty.
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    I have a "drilling" in 20 gauge and 7.62 x 38.5mm (whatever that is). Does that count? [:I]


    That rifle round is a short version of a russian/nagant smg cartridge.
    https://goo.gl/images/wNJ8Bk
    wNJ8Bk


    Interesting, as it dates to 1870 (long before the Mosin-Nagant). The image in your link shows a cartridge without a neck. I have a wooden box that came with it containing 9 original cartridges, none with a head stamp, they all have a neck like most common rifle cartridges. A hand press came with it for reloading. I've never fired it though. The chamber for the 20 gauge barrel is also about 2-1/4" (so it's an odd ball). Nice to hold and look at, discuss it's likely past hunting stag and pheasants in the Black Forest, perhaps. [;)]


    Sorry,should have stressed short version of machine gun ammo, not revolver which has the sealing brass front.
    Your shell is most likely the parent case for the later smg and
    revolver cases.
    Looks like these???
    rsz_762x39new_geco.jpg
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    Similar, but I don't see them utilized in any revolver. The length of the cylinder would be unrealistic. They are about the same length as a .30-30 Winchester. [;)]

    I'm totally lost now!!!
    A 30-30 win is 7.62 x 51 R. {R for rimmed}

    [?][?]
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  • montanajoe
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    as a boat,the 410 would be the trollin motor??
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    Similar, but I don't see them utilized in any revolver. The length of the cylinder would be unrealistic. They are about the same length as a .30-30 Winchester. [;)]

    I'm totally lost now!!!
    A 30-30 win is 7.62 x 51 R. {R for rimmed}

    [?][?]





    Yes, I'm a collector too and not everything is as we believe it to be when it comes to antiques and oddities. It's been suggested that only the cartridge diameter and length was measured, and the projectile not included in the measurement. My father acquired it from Lewis Winant (author of Firearms Curiosa) back in the mid-60's. [;)]


    doesn't make sense that way too. 51 mm is just the case length,
    your sizes match the 7.62x39 ak/sks round but with a rim.
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  • select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by montanajoe
    as a boat,the 410 would be the trollin motor??


    Don't underestimate the .410. In a 3" .410 11/16 oz ..there are 282 #8 pellets. In a 12 gauge 2.3/4 high brass 1.25 oz there are 281 #6 shot.
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  • bobski
    I had a 30-30/20 24v. sold it. kicked like a mule and cracked the pistol grip. plastic trigger guard lasted one year.
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
    Sorry, I didn't make it. Also never seen another and it's not 39mm, it's 38.5mm (and so marked on the underside of the barrel). I also doubt that it is related to the Mosin-Nagant in any way. This was made over 20 years prior and it's from Germany, not Russia. Also a double gun with exposed hammers, not a bolt action. [;)]


    What ever you say.
    Marked 38.5 yet is 30/30 size, 51mm?
    I posted pics of what is a 7.62mm x 38.5 rimmed shell.
    Your shell could be the parent cartridge for the M/N. The M/N
    thought they had a better system for sealing gases, I would think they
    used a existing shell to develop their gun.
    Just like the 30/06 is to the .270win. or even more extreme,
    the .357mag is to the .22jet.
    https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-62-x-38-5mm-russian-nagant-for-submachine-gun/30214
    Country or year made has little to do with cartridge development
    and variations.
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  • gearheaddad
    Favorite combo gun is my Browning Centennial Continental set.
    Browning Superposed Superlight 20ga O/U with a set of O/U 30-06 Barrels to make it an Express Rifle!
    Stunning combination and shoots like a dream.
    Otherwise:
    Marlin Model 90 22/410 Deluxe O/U.

    I'm personally not a fan of sub gauge inserts in a large bore shotgun unless you are trying to get use of an old Damascus gun or something.
    I carry a sub Gauge shotgun because they're lighter than a 12 ga!
    And a hell of a lot more fun!
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