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  • rufe-snow
    Handguns that are striker fired, don't have a integral hammer.

    The firing pin is spring loaded and held in the cocked position by the sear. When the trigger releases the sear it causes the firing pin to go forward under spring tension, hitting the primer, firing the cartridge.

    EDIT #1, Certain double action, striker fired, pistols have the trigger in direct contact with the striker/firing pin. There is no sear to hold the striker/firing pin in the fully cocked position. If there is a failure to fire, the trigger is recycled to cause the striker/firing pin to hit the primer a second time.
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  • Forward
    Is the striker fire a superior system?
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  • dcs shooters
    Not superior. Maybe a little faster without a hammer falling.
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  • perry shooter
    I have found most but not all striker fired pistols do not have as good of a trigger pull as Hammer pistols Also an external hammer allows one to recock the hammer to give cartridge another chance of going off in case of a misfire the first time .Striker you have to cycle the slide again.
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  • tsr1965
    Most combat/duty pistols that are striker fired have a spongy, double action type of trigger pull. The GLOCK, SA XD, and several others are like this. I would assume the striker fired pistols that have a very crisp, single action pull, like perry shooter i talking about, would be some like the Hi-Standards of old[:D].

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  • Tailgunner1954
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Most combat/duty pistols that are striker fired have a spongy, double action type of trigger pull. The GLOCK, SA XD, and several others are like this. I would assume the striker fired pistols that have a very crisp, single action pull, like perry shooter i talking about, would be some like the Hi-Standards of old[:D].

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    Ever fire a P-08? That's also a striker fired pistol
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  • dcs shooters
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    Most combat/duty pistols that are striker fired have a spongy, double action type of trigger pull. The GLOCK, SA XD, and several others are like this. I would assume the striker fired pistols that have a very crisp, single action pull, like perry shooter i talking about, would be some like the Hi-Standards of old[:D].

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    Ever fire a P-08? That's also a striker fired pistol

    Or a Kahr or H-K P-7 [?]
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  • beantownshootah
    A "striker" sets off a round by moving in a straight line.
    A "hammer" sets off a round by swinging in an arc.

    Yes, the difference actually is that simple.

    Most strikers are entirely internal to the gun, and the new breed of polymer guns usually use striker-based systems (eg Glock, Smith M&P, etc).

    The "classic" all metal guns of yesteryear (eg 1911, Browning Hi-Power, CZ-75, Beretta 92 series, etc) typically use hammer-based designs.

    Hammers can be internal (eg the "hammerless" revolvers, the Kel-Tec 3AT and similar pocket autos, etc).

    Each system has its own advantages and disadvantages. Which is "better" is sort of subjective. A lot of it just comes down to personal preference.

    One advantage of external hammers is that its easy to tell at a glance (or feel) if the gun is cocked or not. They can also (usually) be easily cocked or recocked by the shooting hand alone. One disadvantage is that hammers can potentially snag on a draw, and they may also present a point of failure, should the gun fall down on a hard surface and hit the hammer.

    Some striker designs have part of the striker protrude from the gun (usually) the back to act as a cocking indicator (eg the Walther P99 and clones). Typically striker-fired guns that are not double-action designs can be recocked by partially retracting the slide, but this requires two hands. (The true "double action" guns just require another trigger pull to recock then refire).

    Also, generalizing, striker fired systems typically use few parts and are a little less expensive to manufacture than hammer based systems.

    There isn't really any reason why striker fired designs NEED to have worse trigger pulls than hammer based ones; that's largely a function of the trigger system design and tolerances. The DA on the Walther P99, for example, was designed specifically to give a smooth linear pull, sort of like a revolver, and its quite good. The SA pull isn't what I would call "match quality" by any stretch, but IMO, its better than the "spongy" normal stock pull on a Glock or similar gun.

    As a matter of practice, the military/police type striker guns (Glock, etc) weren't designed as match-type guns with light crisp triggers (arguably a liability for combat), so they don't have them.

    Responding to above, Like my Citation 104 depicted below, the High Standard .22 autos actually use an internal hammer, not a striker, so this wouldn't be a good example of a match-grade striker-fired pistol!

    highstandardsept05.jpg?t=1255730313
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