Which is more dependable
I have a 9MM for self defense. Both the 124 gr GD and 125 gr Golden Saber feed and fire flawlessly. Which has the better terminal dependability for penetration and expansion?
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They are both about the same. However, I shoot the GD HP's in about all of my carry, and defensive handguns, except the 10 mm. They include 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP.
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You'll be well served with either one. Both have been around for a while, and both have been used enough in defensive situations to earn a decent track record. 0 -
That's a 50-50 toss-up.
I carry either one at times.0 -
a one grain difference in bullet weight will make no difference. if you pulled all the rounds and weighed each bullet individually, you would find that even bullets all from the same manufacturer will still vary in weight. if they both feed and function flawlessly, choose the one that shoots the tightest groups. all other performance aspects will be negligible unless you're concerned about velocity and want to shoot over a chronograph 0 -
The one grain; true, not a factor. For a defensive round any accuracy difference would be inconsequential. It's all about reliability and terminal performance. Only you can answer the reliability question which sounds like a non-issue. As for terminal performance, I couldn't say, but from what I understand it's a toss-up. Hope you never have to test the theory. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by 5mmgunguy
I have a 9MM for self defense. Both the 124 gr GD and 125 gr Golden Saber feed and fire flawlessly. Which has the better terminal dependability for penetration and expansion?
Take the question at face value, its utterly impossible for anyone to know the answer with certainty, and anyone who says differently is probably trying to sell you something.
The only want to really "know" which round performs better in the "real world", bluntly, is to shoot 1000 people with each round under "laboratory conditions", measure the time until they pass out, and then compare the results.
Needless to say, this "experiment" can't be done, and shouldn't be done, and consequently, any answer other than "nobody knows" is purely speculative. You can look at performance in ballistic gelatin as a sort of surrogate for this, but again, I don't know how much small changes in that sort of performance translate into real differences in "on street" performance.
My thoroughly considered answer is it really probably doesn't make a lick of difference which one you use. Either one will do its job, if you do your job of putting the bullet in the correct place, and both bullets will "fail" if you don't.
Even if there is a performance difference between the two, its probably not significant enough to spend any further time worrying about this.
Assuming the two run your gun 100%, then just pick the cheaper one and be done with it. If they cost the same, pick the one that's more readily available. And if they're the same cost AND equally available, flip a coin!0 -
either should be just fine so long as your within 15 feet and they aren't running away from you when you shoot them................. 0 -
Both are indeed very good rounds. I have fired many of them. My Sheriff's Dept. carries the Golden Sabers and my City PD carry Gold Dots (switched 4 years ago from Federals). What I have found is that the Gold Dot's are bonded and generally stay together (for the most part) when dug out and weighed. The Golden Sabers, in my findings, tend to seperate the jacket from the lead core. I have dug out many and typically find the many pieces of uniue brass colored jacket in several different directions. What do you want weight retention or wound channels? Good luck.
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