FLUSS STAHL KRUPP ESSEN

A2ZGUNS

April 24, 2013 14:59

I come across this gun can anyone tell me what i have and the value of it. It is a 16 gauge side by side shoy gun with a silver reciever engraved. on the side of the barrels marked nitro on the bottom barrels is marked fluss stahl krupp essen any help wouls sure be nice. It's a bad picture of the barrels the barrels are in great condition could you give and est of value low to good? Thank you Ron
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  rufe-snow

  April 24, 2013 15:10

  Need quality photos, for accurate identification and valuation.
  
  Instructions for posting photos, at this link.
  
  http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
  
  "Fluss Stahl Krupp Essen" is found marked on many early production German shotgun barrels.
  
  It denotes that the barrels are made of "Fluid Steel", by the "Krupp" company located in "Essen" Germany.
  
  
  EDIT #1, Your photos aren't visible. You have to provide the specific URL for us to see your shotgun.
  
  
  EDIT #2, We need overall photos of both sides and all markings and proof marks also.
  
  
  EDIT #3, The Proof Marks are German. Showing 16 Gauge choked barrel, with a proof date of October 1925. The engraving looks high class. But what appears to be extensive rust on the barrel would have a very negative effect on value. Stock has also been cut for pad and perhaps refinished? The forend wood also doesn't seem to match. Way to many problems as I see it. Best you could do if you could find somebody willing to restore it. Otherwise it's only value would be as a shooter, IMHO.
  
  
  

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  mhead

  April 25, 2013 17:38

  Hello I am not an expert but i believe the S is the Germany shotgun proof mark from1891to1939 and the W is the choked barrel mark for the same time period . The U is the german definitive proof mark .I can't tell exactly what the other proof mark is. that looks like a bird but it could be the export mark of Adolph Frank Export co. i believe they were in hamburg Germany . hope this helps.

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  Hawk Carse

  April 26, 2013 07:30

  Note that it is not marked "70" to indicate 2 3/4" chambers, therefore it has the old standard 65mm = 2 9/16" chambers.
  We are warned to not shoot Standard American 2 3/4" shells in such guns but to track down the short hulls from specialty makers.

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  kannoneer

  April 28, 2013 18:27

  It appears the barrels are made of fluid steel by Krupp of Essen, Germany.

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