Reblued?
I believe I have a Sauer Model 38H. I wondering if the gun has been re-blued. It appears to have the German Military acceptance marks so it's vintage is WW2, but the grips look aftermarket. Thanks for any comments.
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Yup.
Buffed all to heck and homemade grips.0 -
Commercial high polish reblue. When it was buffed, prior to reblueing. Whoever was doing the job, had to heavy a hand. The 3rd photo, shows that.
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100% this gun was scrubbed and buffed and heavily cleaned prior to commercial refinish - mid level / mid quality reblue
Most likely do to rust or corrosion issues and not simple original finish fade - the rounding and smoothing of all sharp edges is the primary indicator
Still nice pistol if you got a fair price - they are well made guns and have a rich history
The refinish had destroyed any collectors value or interest
Great range day shooter or entry level pistol with a war time history but not an investment piece
For the right price I would have purchased it and enjoyed it
I have restored and refinished at least two dozen military firearms myself and I enjoy the history and shooting experience
Can you provide any additional detail - it's an interesting piece
Mike0 -
Buffed and Reblued: 1) dished out appearance of the lettering and numbers, 2) wavy pattern where surfaces should appear flat, 3) rounding of edges which should be sharp/square, and 4) smooth dished out appearance of the underlying metal grain and machining tool marks. Takes a lot of patience and time to finish and polish a firearm using finer grades of silicon carbide paper. 0 -
Thanks for the reply's. This pistol is owned by a friend of mine who received it from his dad. His dad was in the Navy during the Korean War and won it with a 2 dollar raffle ticket on board his ship. 0 -
Whilst many a collector would frown on your friends gun as not correct...
The importance as I see it is 3 parts for him IMHO:
1. The connection to his father - this link achieves primacy of all others - for him it cannot be replaced with a better or more original item
2. Shoot it - as long as its intact and functions correctly and is safe it's a shooter - if you clean it and maintain it it's a great range day gun for practice and sport.
3. Historical teaching tool - okay so it's not a gem mint new in box perfect all parts and numbers unaltered collectable. Many shooters today will never have the chance to own or shoot a WWII era waffenampt marked example of this marque - and that experience as well as connecting to history by researching the gun and learning about the conflict makes it important and valuable from angles other than an investment standpoint.
I have many guns that fit the above referenced definition.
It's one way to look at it - and as valid to me as what a serious collector might look for.
The original manufacturer quality and design are factors as well.
Mike0 -
Just to add another note, The gun is exactly as his father won it. The re-hab was done by a prior owner. 0 -
great design but sadly after the war never back in production I own my father in law's bring back from WW 2r 0 -
Seeing that 38H brought back some very fond memories.
Picked up one a few years back at a LGS. Looked original, including holster. Couldn't afford to shoot it and had no desire to reload for that round, so I put it up to auction with a minimum bid of the $350.00 I'd paid for it. Turned out to have some special markings that made it highly desirable to a couple of west coast collectors who got into a bidding war.
Finally went for $3500.00.
Some things I don't understand, and collectors are one of them.0
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