Gun identification
I bought a semi automatic rifle with a folding stock. The stock and forearm are synthetic. It is made in China and the only details on the gun are "W.I.C. Birm. AL". Also, "patent pending" is stamped on the synthetic stock.
I believe it resembles a Norinco but since there are no markings it may be a knock-off???
Can anyone give me more information on what it might be? It is listed on GunBroker with pictures under "Jackal1953".
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=542449127
I believe it resembles a Norinco but since there are no markings it may be a knock-off???
Can anyone give me more information on what it might be? It is listed on GunBroker with pictures under "Jackal1953".
http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=542449127
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I recently purchased a small revolver and I need assistance identifying the gun.
The seller identified the gun as a WWI German Officer's Pocket Pistol .32cal double action, but I can't find anything in gun books or on the web that match that description. The gun has some very distinct features: there is no trigger guard and the trigger folds down from the frame to fire the gun, on the left side of the gun there is a safety latch that rotates 180 degrees forward & backwards.
The grips are two piece wood with a diamond pattern & some of the markings on the gun are: on the left side of the frame "Kal.320", on the right side of the frame there is an eagle with an "N" under it. On the butt of the gun there is a serial # and manufacturer's name or logo in a circle. Some of the letters in the manufacturer's name or logo are no longer legible. On the top part of the circle the letters that are legible are "NEKE &" and of the bottom part of the circle "EHLIS"0 -
South American Mauser. 0 -
You've heard the old saying "One Aw S**t wipes out a thousand Attaboys"?
Well, "sporterized" wipes out collector interest and most of the resale value of a military surplus rifle.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
You've heard the old saying "One Aw S**t wipes out a thousand Attaboys"?
Well, "sporterized" wipes out collector interest and most of the resale value of a military surplus rifle.
When I say sporterized I?m using that term lightly. It?s not the original stock. No other alterations have been made. It would take a new stock to get it back to the orginal look. For $95 dollars I?m looking at buying it just as a project to get it back to original mil surp look.0 -
quote:Originally posted by emsfire
When I say sporterized I?m using that term lightly. It?s not the original stock. No other alterations have been made. It would take a new stock to get it back to the orginal look. For $95 dollars I?m looking at buying it just as a project to get it back to original mil surp look.
Make sure you measure the length of the receiver. Before buying a replacement stock. FN made two lengths. The 1924's were a intermediate length, 8.5" long. The later FN models, were a 1/4 inch longer.0 -
After some more digging I more than 90% sure that the rifle is a Uruguayan FN 1893. Only thing I?m wondering now is about a stock. Think I can get the stock off of a Spanish version to make it fit this model? What about the stock from a Yugo M24? 0 -
An 1893 is a small ring action, I am pretty sure an M24 is large. 0 -
If indeed a Uru 93, any small ring stock should fit/function.
Carse is correct: the M24 is large ring, but an intermediate length action (requires the proper stock).
Be advised that a couple models of Spanish Mausers sported small rings, so there's hope.
quote:Originally posted by emsfire
After some more digging I more than 90% sure that the rifle is a Uruguayan FN 1893. Only thing I?m wondering now is about a stock. Think I can get the stock off of a Spanish version to make it fit this model? What about the stock from a Yugo M24?
Originally posted by Hawk Carse
An 1893 is a small ring action, I am pretty sure an M24 is large.0 -
quote:Originally posted by b0400879
If indeed a Uru 93, any small ring stock should fit/function.
Carse is correct: the M24 is large ring, but an intermediate length action (requires the proper stock).
Be advised that a couple models of Spanish Mausers sported small rings, so there's hope.
quote:Originally posted by emsfire
After some more digging I more than 90% sure that the rifle is a Uruguayan FN 1893. Only thing I?m wondering now is about a stock. Think I can get the stock off of a Spanish version to make it fit this model? What about the stock from a Yugo M24?
Originally posted by Hawk Carse
An 1893 is a small ring action, I am pretty sure an M24 is large.
According to "Mauser Military Rifles of the World". There is no such thing as a Uruguayan Model 1893. There is a 1895, but it has no receiver markings.
The chamber marking on the receiver, "Fabrique Nationale" over "Herstal Liege". Is the FN commercial address crest.
To get the right stock, you would first have to figure out what model Mauser it is. Description of bolt and serial, number might help in this matter. The early 7 mm Mausers that went to Spain and South America, were different then the latter ones, in this regard.0
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