schmidt rubin bolt
I have a Swiss Schmidt Rubin that's missing the bolt. There's no model number, has 30-30 WCF Switzerland and serial number 149509 on the L/S of the barrel and receiver. It has sporting sights on the barrel. I'm trying to find out what bolt to look for and which model it is, K11?, K31?
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Usual clues are barrel length and bolt length/ position of locking lugs- but you do not have a bolt, and does not sound like original barrel.
30-30 is also a rimmed cartridge, where the 7.5 Swiss is rimless, so sounds like bolt face would have to modified as well.
Not that you asked, but think you have a good tomato stake or closet rod there.0 -
Some of the early imported S-R rifles, were Model 1889's. I don't know the specific reason? But some were reworked, to the Win. 30-30 cartridge.
Below is a photo of a S-R, M-1889, bolt.
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I can send pics of the markings, email me at dokey@frontiernet.net 0 -
If it looks like this? It's a Model 1889. 0 -
Yes except mine has a sporting stock and barrel and the both serial numbers on the barrel and receiver are identical. If you send me an email I'll reply with pics. Look at completed GB auction 708 279 163 which is similar to what I have 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dokey
Yes except mine has a sporting stock and barrel and the both serial numbers on the barrel and receiver are identical. If you send me an email I'll reply with pics
Your probably going to have a problem, even if you manage to obtain a original M 1889 bolt. As a previous poster noted. It will have to be reworked, to function with the rimmed 30-30 cartridge. Although the rim diameters are within .005, according to "Cartridges of the World".0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dokey
Yes except mine has a sporting stock and barrel and the both serial numbers on the barrel and receiver are identical. If you send me an email I'll reply with pics. Look at completed GB auction 708 279 163 which is similar to what I have
I checked out auction 708279163. Other than having the stock cut, and it being sporterized. To make it more viable, and useful as a hunting rifle. Only thing I could see, was that they removed what was apparently the magazine cutoff mechanism. From the right side of the magazine.
If your able to get hold of a model 89 bolt? Should work? Over and above getting it to work correctly, with the rimmed 30-30 cartridge. It's not clear to me what all they did, to make the bolt function with a rimmed cartridge? Opening up the bolt face on a lath, and tweaking the extractor. At the very least?0 -
Thanks all for your input, at least I know what I'm looking for, I'll just have to be patient 0 -
I shoot original 1889s with cast lead bullets only and reloads of low pressure duplicating original loads. Shooting factory 30-30 ammo is a scary thought at least IMHO.
There is enough info on the internet on the original cartridges 7.5 x 53 (Not 7.5 x55) and weakness/strength of the action to do your own research and form your own opinion, but for me I will stick with ammo that the rifle was designed to shoot.
BTW the with straight pull action and 12 round mag, it is fun, fast and moa accuracy is achievable with good reloads.
Considering USA was armed with Krags and trapdoors during the period, the Swiss rifle was far ahead of its time.0
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