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andy38340
Can anyone help identify what country these come from. My only source is the blue book and it seems that about half the time I cant figure them out. Thanks

http://imgur.com/a/dOa13
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  • andy38340
    Can anyone ID this for me?

    Thanks.


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  • fordsix
    belgium flaming bomb[?]
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  • andy38340
    I'm not sure.

    He's a little bigger picture.


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  • rufe-snow
    I agree with Fordsix. It's a recent Belgian proof mark, for a pistol not actually made in Belgium, (Flaming L, bottom proof).


    The "Star over D", is the actual inspector who proofed the pistol.

    My guess, is that "Underlined J", is probably the coded date of proof?
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  • Hawk Carse
    Is the make and model of gun a secret?

    Interesting, a "re-import." I have seen German sales S&Ws but not Belgian.
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  • andy38340
    It's a S&W 6904 imported by Century.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by andy38340
    It's a S&W 6904 imported by Century.



    I owned for a while, it's 469 predecessor. When they first came out, in the 80's. They were to my knowledge, the first double stack. Small 9 mm , high capacity pistols. On the commercial market. And were quite popular, because of this. Nowadays everybody and their BIL, are selling small 9's. Back then though. Smith was the only game in town.
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  • Hangfire
    I agree the script L is a late Belgian proof.. It would have been sold overseas in a country that required proof-testing in an accredited proof house.. Many adhere to these standards..

    http://tinyurl.com/y7lk9crf

    Maybe sold in Belgium, maybe not.. Belgium can, and does, do proof-testing for importers, and their proof-test is accepted by all members..

    "Firearms proofing-
    Small arms manufacturers and importers within the C.I.P. member countries are obliged to request one of the accredited Proof Houses to perform the proofing of all arms they manufacture or import. No small arm can be put on the market in any of the C.I.P. member states without prior successful proofing in an accredited proof house, as regulated by the C.I.P. decisions.

    After the proof test and if successful, two or three proof marks are always applied to the main (highly stressed) parts of the arm, namely the barrel, the chamber (when not part of the barrel) and the locking mechanism."

    EDIT-
    I see I missed adding this..

    http://www.hunting.be/wp-content/uploads/Belgian-Proof-Marks.pdf

    I don't see the exact Crowned L, but #35 is similar, and is the proof for foreign arms..

    Looks like the J is the date code for 1991..

    And the D with the star over it is the inspector..
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  • andy38340
    Awesome info.
    Thanks everybody.
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  • mrmike08075
    The stylized cursive "L" is for liege Belgium...

    Most likely proofed on or near rue 22 within sight of the town square monument dedicated to arms makers and gunsmith...

    The tower itself was once in common use as a Belgian proof.

    Interesting reading if you do an internet search.

    Mike
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