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  • danielgage
    do you all have all the hay you need?

    it has rained so much in Arkansas that if it ever stops we will have more hay than we know what to do with
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  • fordsix
    better rain soon case the next cut isnt going to be there[V]
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  • William81
    Had a great first cut also....we are in the same boat here in Central MO...rain is needed or the 2nd cut will be minimal....AND the beans and corn totals are going to start suffering also...

    They are already predicting a major hay shortage here this year....
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  • redneckandy
    I just bought 100 round bales today. $85 a piece.[:(!] Took a few calves in last week, 500lb steers $.89lb. 400lb heifers $1.20lb. No new toys for me for a while.[V]

    I have been seeing hay as high as $125 a bale. This year is going to kill me.
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  • yoshmyster
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    I just bought 100 round bales today. $85 a piece.[:(!] Took a few calves in last week, 500lb steers $.89lb. 400lb heifers $1.20lb. No new toys for me for a while.[V]

    I have been seeing hay as high as $125 a bale. This year is going to kill me.


    I see the numbers but for simple folks how does that add up? The hay will keep them alive but not tack on weight?
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  • redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    I just bought 100 round bales today. $85 a piece.[:(!] Took a few calves in last week, 500lb steers $.89lb. 400lb heifers $1.20lb. No new toys for me for a while.[V]

    I have been seeing hay as high as $125 a bale. This year is going to kill me.


    I see the numbers but for simple folks how does that add up? The hay will keep them alive but not tack on weight?

    Last year hay was $40 a bale and all calves of that weight were selling for $1.40+lb. I normally don't have to start feeding hay until November, Now with it being so dry in my area I will have to start feeding it soon if we don't get any rain. No grass and very limited hay means everyone starts selling off cattle and the market crashes.
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  • Mobuck
    What was wrong with those $.89/# steers?
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  • spasmcreek
    2nd cutting of new alfalfa round bales lined up in the field and the drought is broken here last nite...been very hot and dry with everything missing but a tiny sprinkle ....WELL had >> 2 INCHES <<<<< rain with no real wind and NO hail.....soggy
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  • nononsense
    Call the hay brokers in any state with rain and buy there, ship by truck. Yes gas/diesel is expensive right now but it might save you a few bucks.

    Georgia hay after several weeks of on and off rain:

    https://www.haymap.com/hay-for-sale/GA/

    That's what we did about 5 years ago when our Texas ranch dried out but Missouri and Arkansas had too much hay. We reduced the number of horses from 97 down to 43 then started the trucks on their way to the ranch. The horses were sold or shipped back to their owners, not slaughtered.

    Best.
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  • SCOUT5
    Already putting up the 2nd cutting here in Southern Indiana.
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  • JimmyJack
    $40 a bale hay here and some of it doesnt get sold!
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  • redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
    What was wrong with those $.89/# steers?

    Not a thing. They were Santa Gertrudis and the favorite in this area is black Angus but I have never had any sell that cheap. They were good looking animals. There is just no hay or grass left and not many people can feed em right now.
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  • Mobuck
    "Not a thing. They were Santa Gertrudis and the favorite in this area is black Angus but I have never had any sell that cheap."

    I questioned the 89 cents on steers vs $1.20 for hfrs. That's pretty much opposite the normal pricing. That said, you couldn't give away a "Santie" in the midwest.
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  • grumpygy
    Weird but here in Oregon they only get one cutting. Rain Normally delays the 1st cutting so late there is no time of rain for the second.

    Now eastern Oregon where they grow Alfalfa they can get at least 3 cuttings, cause they irrigate. And there is no rain to interupt the cuttings.
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  • Mobuck
    The problem with hauling hay to cows is it takes a minimum of 4-6 ton to feed a cow until next spring. A cow weighs 1200-1600#. A truck can haul as many cows as bales of hay (+/-) but has to make 4-5X number of trips.
    Unfortunately, this is the worst time of year to move cows long distances. The last time it got super dry in north MO, a neighbor with family connections to a ranch in New Mexico weaned off all the calves that were old enough and shipped those cows to NM for 150 days. He fed the calves alfalfa and corn in a dry lot and they did fairly well but the expense killed most of the calf crop income that year.
    I've never had to buy hay but I have sold some "cull" cows in order to have enough to feed the good cows.
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  • dpmule
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    Baled hay ...... depends on the size of the bale.

    Small round bales that weight 70 = 100 lbs

    Large round bales that weight about 1,000 lbs

    Small square bales that weight 70- 100 lbs

    Large square bales that weight near 1,000 lbs

    [?]

    My large squares (4'x4'x8') of Alfalfa averaged 1870 lbs this year.

    Mule
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  • dpmule
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey

    If you can find it,,,,,,,,,lg. sq. bales, good alfalfa, at $300/ton with an avg. of 1600#/bale here.

    Non-irrigated second cutting grass hay won't hardly be worth the time/expense to bale.

    Govnt. lease, BLM/Natl. forest all reduced the number of animal units and most having to haul water or critically short in the mountains.

    The 'bull haulers' are busy round tripping to the kill floor,,,,,,,,,


    Bill,
    Send me an email, I have 55 ton 1st crop left to sell, straight Alfalfa, No rain, tarped.
    RFV 158, TDN 65.6
    Avg 1870 lbs bales

    Mule
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  • spasmcreek
    hay price ^^^^
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  • swearengine
    2 weeks ago, Napoleon Livestock had 472lb steers sell for 1.76/lb and 554lb heifers sell for 1.47/lb.
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  • TrinityScrimshaw
    We got about 135 large round bales off of about 50 acres so far.

    This has been a good year for the grass, not so much in the past few years.

    We have about 60 acres down waiting to be raked & bailed.

    We need rain, but hoping it holds off till we can get the hay bailed.

    Trinity +++
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  • danielgage
    delivered the hay today one of the cotton wagons I used broke had to pick up 300 bale out of the road and re stack

    by the time I got it off the highway the running gear was separated from the box

    another long hot day

    hay business needs to get better
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  • dpmule
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    delivered the hay today one of the cotton wagons I used broke had to pick up 300 bale out of the road and re stack

    by the time I got it off the highway the running gear was separated from the box

    another long hot day

    hay business needs to get better


    There is more personal heat generated by fire wood and two string/wire hay bales than anything else I know.
    Sorry for your luck, but if it had been mine, the wagon would have broken on a bridge and dumped it in the river [:D]
    Did it break the reach?

    Mule
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  • danielgage
    quote:Originally posted by dpmule
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    delivered the hay today one of the cotton wagons I used broke had to pick up 300 bale out of the road and re stack

    by the time I got it off the highway the running gear was separated from the box

    another long hot day

    hay business needs to get better


    There is more personal heat generated by fire wood and two string/wire hay bales than anything else I know.
    Sorry for your luck, but if it had been mine, the wagon would have broken on a bridge and dumped it in the river [:D]
    Did it break the reach?

    Mule

    not sure

    reach?

    the running gear broke somehow and the we destroyed it the rest of the way getting it out of the highway

    box and running gear hauled off in several different pieces
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  • Mobuck
    "reach?"

    AKA
    coupling pole
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  • redneckandy
    quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
    "Not a thing. They were Santa Gertrudis and the favorite in this area is black Angus but I have never had any sell that cheap."

    I questioned the 89 cents on steers vs $1.20 for hfrs. That's pretty much opposite the normal pricing. That said, you couldn't give away a "Santie" in the midwest.

    I like my Santas, and this is just a hobby not my main job. I'm the third generation to keep this herd going. If I was smart I would be running Angus but I like these red cows.
    That said I have never gotten below $1.20 in the past several years on any that weight. I just don't know why else they brought so little.
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  • danielgage
    thanks for the education forgemonkey

    still not sure what broke first just know the undercarriage is broke and bent now

    reckon I will try to find a stouter cotton wagon
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  • danielgage
    quite a few people stopped and helped in that hot hot weather

    thanks to all of them

    they are still good people in this old wicked world [^][:)][8D]
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  • dakotashooter2
    Damn.. And I could almost bale my yard about every 10 days.
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  • danielgage
    got fertilizer out today need rain now
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  • danielgage
    got some rain should get another cutting in 6 weeks give or take
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