HD electric
30 Grand for one. 110 mile range(Yea right). GPS and cell phone compatable.
Ill Pass
https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/07/harley-davidson-livewire-pre-orders-pricing/
After years of talk, Harley-Davidson is finally ready to put its LiveWire electric motorcycle up for sale -- and not surprisingly, it'll cost you. The green two-wheeler is now available for pre-order ahead of its August debut for a hefty $29,799. That's a lot to shell out, but Harley is betting that performance and connectivity will seal the deal.
The motor tucked between your legs can take the LiveWire to 60MPH in a brisk 3.5 seconds (complete with a "futuristic" sound), while an H-D Connect service uses LTE to help you remotely check on the status of your bike, get service reminders and find out whether someone is trying to mess with your ride. If someone manages to steal the motorcycle, you can track its whereabouts through GPS.
There's one main catch if the LiveWire is within your budget: the range. Harley estimates that you'll get 110 miles of urban riding on a charge. That's certainly enough for many commutes, but a veteran like Zero Motorcycles has bikes that can handle up to 163 miles in the city in their standard form. You're paying for the LiveWire's power, technology and its all-business looks.
Ill Pass
https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/07/harley-davidson-livewire-pre-orders-pricing/
After years of talk, Harley-Davidson is finally ready to put its LiveWire electric motorcycle up for sale -- and not surprisingly, it'll cost you. The green two-wheeler is now available for pre-order ahead of its August debut for a hefty $29,799. That's a lot to shell out, but Harley is betting that performance and connectivity will seal the deal.
The motor tucked between your legs can take the LiveWire to 60MPH in a brisk 3.5 seconds (complete with a "futuristic" sound), while an H-D Connect service uses LTE to help you remotely check on the status of your bike, get service reminders and find out whether someone is trying to mess with your ride. If someone manages to steal the motorcycle, you can track its whereabouts through GPS.
There's one main catch if the LiveWire is within your budget: the range. Harley estimates that you'll get 110 miles of urban riding on a charge. That's certainly enough for many commutes, but a veteran like Zero Motorcycles has bikes that can handle up to 163 miles in the city in their standard form. You're paying for the LiveWire's power, technology and its all-business looks.
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I'll stick with my old Shovel and the Street Glide. "Futuristic Sound"?? You've gotta be kidding me. I don't need a bunch of electronic crap to tell me what is going on with my scooter. If ya can't feel/hear/see most issues with yer bike ya ought to leave the damn thing in the garage. 0 -
Can you clip baseball cards to the forks to make it sound like a motorcycle? 0 -
If I ever buy another scooter it will have an engine. 0 -
Harley is already in some financial trouble. They have gotten away from their base with the water cooled bike and now an electric one.
I don't think this is going to help them out too much. They would probably be better off building a copy of a 1971 Honda CB750[:0]
or a copy of the WLA, now that is something I would look at.
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Since motorcycles use very little fuel / gasoline / petroleum distillates and have very low emissions...
Why would you make a hybrid or electric bike - what's the point
I have been following several companies that are taking vintage compact cars and trucks and putting motorcycle engines in them
They get ridiculous fuel mileage and have low emissions
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quote:Originally posted by us55840
The Harley Davidson XA is one I would like to see produced again.
The local dealer had one traded in on a boat around 1963. It was in rough shape and didn't run. He stripped it, rebuilt the engine and repainted it military style.
I sat on it and listened to it run ... but didn't get to ride it down the street. Ran smooth as glass w/nice sound too.
http://bmwdean.com/h-d.htm
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At the time, the HD Factory rep said he only knew of 3 others in existence ... one in the HD Museum and two in private hands.
That is cool I like the Indian V2 also.0 -
playing card and a clothespin ..3-4 on a wheel made a good racket and cost about nothing 0 -
Will the new electric bike leak oil ?
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quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
I'll stick with my old Shovel and the Street Glide. "Futuristic Sound"?? You've gotta be kidding me. I don't need a bunch of electronic crap to tell me what is going on with my scooter. If ya can't feel/hear/see most issues with yer bike ya ought to leave the damn thing in the garage.
Try a tricked out two stroke RD350/400, or a Kawi 750 triple for some sweet sound at idle, revving up, or at full scream. NOTHING sweeter.[:D]0 -
Jeez, I get about 200 on a tank with my beemer. Out here you can't find an outlet every 110 miles. Twice around the block and plug 'er in. 0 -
Funny- I was thinking this is the first interesting bike Harley has released in a long time.
Electric motor =100% available torque at all times. I wonder if its CVT or has a shiftable transmission.
For me- 30 grand buys a 200+HP sport bike and a bunch of track days, so the value isnt there.
If it was 10 grand Id actually consider one.
I do know Harley gives great demo rides so when they hit the dealer ill ride one at some point.0 -
Back in the day I had an Operations Squad when I was still assigned to a District. As always we had few or no available vehicles. Hmmm, what to do? I found out there were some old HD flathead 3 wheelers (?Ice cream? boxes on the back, tank shifts, foot clutches, etc) in the motor pool. Yep, grabbed a couple, taught the guys how to ride ?em and put them on the street to get some work done. They were a real curiosity in the projects.
No idea how old those 3 wheelers were. The department had them since the beginning of time. They smoked, rattled, leaked (total loss oil system)...but they ran. As collector items they were probably priceless but our idiot agency was gonna crush them up as junk. In the end DC bought them for $60 a piece. Ugh. Typical bureaucracy, wouldn?t even consider letting us buy them.0 -
quote:Originally posted by EVILDR235
Will the new electric bike leak oil ?
Jose.
It is a Harley, so, yes.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
I'll stick with my old Shovel and the Street Glide. "Futuristic Sound"?? You've gotta be kidding me. I don't need a bunch of electronic crap to tell me what is going on with my scooter. If ya can't feel/hear/see most issues with yer bike ya ought to leave the damn thing in the garage.
Try a tricked out two stroke RD350/400, or a Kawi 750 triple for some sweet sound at idle, revving up, or at full scream. NOTHING sweeter.[:D]
See your 3 and raise ya 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hn9LidVa6g0 -
The thing about electric vehicles, to me anyway, is that companies are trying to develop the technology. No company so far has come up with the electric car that will replace all combustion engine cars.
The Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf, etc., are developmental cars. If they sell a few to the public, it?s good. But they are mainly an experiment to further the technology.
No well ran vehicle company wants to be caught with their pants down when and if a viable electric comes to fruition.
Electric motor technology peaked years ago. The only developments remaining are in battery technology.
Once and if a viable power source comes around, companies who have been working on electrics will be way ahead of those who have been sitting on their hands.
The same was true in the late 1800?s, when the internal combustion engine was being developed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by us55840
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
I'll stick with my old Shovel and the Street Glide. "Futuristic Sound"?? You've gotta be kidding me. I don't need a bunch of electronic crap to tell me what is going on with my scooter. If ya can't feel/hear/see most issues with yer bike ya ought to leave the damn thing in the garage.
Try a tricked out two stroke RD350/400, or a Kawi 750 triple for some sweet sound at idle, revving up, or at full scream. NOTHING sweeter.[:D]
Nothing is more irritating and an affront to the ears as a ricer screaming horrible noise IMO.
Unless you happen to be riding a two stroke 350cc screamer, beating the poop out of a guy on a highly modified KZ650 etc.
Priceless.
Used to Race under WERRA. Western/Eastern Road Race Association, on a fully tricked out Yamaha RD 350cc two stroke. Absolutely stomped on 4 strokes twice to three times its size.
The term "Giant Killers," was used back in the day. Still applies.0 -
This is the answer to so called climate change. Private companies research and development of more environmentally favorable technologies.
Handing out government money to the Teslas will only breed corruption.0 -
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Nothing is more irritating and an affront to the ears as a ricer screaming horrible noise IMO.
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Yep - musta sucked being behind them all the time.[:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by EVILDR235
Will the new electric bike leak oil ?
Jose.
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quote:Originally posted by us55840
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
The thing about electric vehicles, to me anyway, is that companies are trying to develop the technology. No company so far has come up with the electric car that will replace all combustion engine cars.
The Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf, etc., are developmental cars. If they sell a few to the public, it?s good. But they are mainly an experiment to further the technology.
No well ran vehicle company wants to be caught with their pants down when and if a viable electric comes to fruition.
Electric motor technology peaked years ago. The only developments remaining are in battery technology.
Once and if a viable power source comes around, companies who have been working on electrics will be way ahead of those who have been sitting on their hands.
The same was true in the late 1800?s, when the internal combustion engine was being developed.
I wonder where all the 'green people' touting all electric vehicles believe they will get the electricity from to recharge them while they kill the coal industry and 'green' regulations make it financially impossible to construct a coal fired power plant.
Coal power plants produce about 50% of the electricity today...and none are being built as consumption increases daily.
Nuclear power plants are not being built either.
Wind/solar power won't make enough economically.
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Well out here where green is the strongest we use Hydro.0 -
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Nope, more than one that went screaming by on the hind wheel or faster than they should soon ended up in the ditch, piled into a pole or a grease spot on the road.
Putting a newbee on a piece of equipment they have no idea how to control is a sure sign of death waiting to happen.
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Yep That's how those flexable flyers got the nicknames of "Widowmaker" and "Kiddie killer"+0 -
quote:Originally posted by mjrfd99
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
I'll stick with my old Shovel and the Street Glide. "Futuristic Sound"?? You've gotta be kidding me. I don't need a bunch of electronic crap to tell me what is going on with my scooter. If ya can't feel/hear/see most issues with yer bike ya ought to leave the damn thing in the garage.
Try a tricked out two stroke RD350/400, or a Kawi 750 triple for some sweet sound at idle, revving up, or at full scream. NOTHING sweeter.[:D]
See your 3 and raise ya 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hn9LidVa6g
Here is a video of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev0u4B9TWNM0 -
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quote:Originally posted by austin20
quote:Originally posted by EVILDR235
Will the new electric bike leak oil ?
Jose.
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