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  • Sam06
    I think its a dumb law and will send people that need pain meds to "other" sources like heroin or Chinese fentynal.

    The other bad thing about the law is it will create an ever larger black-market for pain meds.
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  • yoshmyster
    Yup street meds. Drug dealers don't ask for ID, medical insurance or make you fill out paper work.
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  • Mr. Perfect
    Isn't that just governing what the doctor can personally hand out in his office? S/He can still write a script for you to fill at the pharmacy, no?
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  • mogley98
    Everything we ever outlawed has made crooks rich.

    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I think its a dumb law and will send people that need pain meds to "other" sources like heroin or Chinese fentynal.

    The other bad thing about the law is it will create an ever larger black-market for pain meds.
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  • mrs102
    Government controlled healthcare.[xx(]
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  • select-fire
    Liquor sales will go up.
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  • Ditch-Runner
    My doc and many more dumped all pain med patients on the pain clinics several years ago . I was one of them
    biggest complaint I hear in waiting room(s) they start cutting back on what you take so your in pain more with less meds
    1st thing they tried with me also cutting my pain meds in half I had to argue to get them back where I was but they stll cut it by about 10 pills a month in the end
    I have to go every month ( $30 co-pay [:(!]) they ask how I am any changes hears your scrip for 28 days and every 4 or 5 th visit have to do a pee test to make sure I am taking what I am suppose to and nothing else mixed in
    my family doc I went in about once a year maybe twice called in the scrip those days are long gone
    I truly think they are forcing some to go to the street to make up the difference in what was taken away increasing the drug problem not helping it

    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Isn't that just governing what the doctor can personally hand out in his office? S/He can still write a script for you to fill at the pharmacy, no?
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  • fideau
    Well, we may get medical marijuana so there is hope.
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  • David Nunn
    When I was in the hospital post-surgery, I had a morphine pump. I could dose myself with morphine every so often.

    Morphine made me sick and I threw up everything I had eaten a for a month before. When I finished throwing up, I had the dry heaves.
    With a 9" incision in my gut, stapled together, heaving and yacking were the last things I wanted to do, so I had to stop the morphine. I even had the nurse take the machine out. Fortunately, the pain wasn't unbearable and it got better as time passed.

    I can't imagine what it might be like to have to take pain meds all the time.
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  • scrumpyjack
    quote:Poster At The Doctors Office Today

    So what was the poster about?
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  • mnrivrat48
    In the 1970's the government started its "War on Drugs" . It has spent billions of our tax payers money and the War on Drugs" has been a complete failure.

    So now they are finding a way to win, and that is to take away the legal drugs that chronic pain sufferers need to be comfortable. Thanks for nothing Uncle Sam, as once again you are being run by folks who could care less about the people they are suppose to serve.

    Yes, I get a whole 60mg of oxycodone a day and I just got drug tested this week as a surprise to my doctor visit. I won't bother to tell you what this all means for me. I certainly know I don't count when it comes to government policy making.
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  • Ricci Wright
    Has the government ever done anything well???
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  • jwb267
    Isn't that just governing what the doctor can personally hand out in his office? S/He can still write a script for you to fill at the pharmacy, no?
    my doctor wrote me a script for 90 pills and the pharmacy would only give me 20
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  • Arby
    Here is the Law in Texas...Apparently the physician controls the use of meds for his or her patients.



    Texas Administrative Code
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    TITLE 22 EXAMINING BOARDS
    PART 9 TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD
    CHAPTER 170 PAIN MANAGEMENT
    SUBCHAPTER A PAIN MANAGEMENT
    RULE ?170.3 Minimum Requirements for the Treatment of Chronic Pain




    A physician's treatment of a patient's pain will be evaluatedby considering whether it meets the generally accepted standard ofcare and whether the following minimum requirements have been met:

    (1) Evaluation of the patient.
    (A) A physician is responsible for obtaining a medicalhistory and a physical examination that includes a problem-focusedexam specific to the chief presenting complaint of the patient.

    (B) The medical record shall document the medical historyand physical examination. In the case of chronic pain, the medicalrecord must document:

    (i) the nature and intensity of the pain;
    (ii) current and past treatments for pain;
    (iii) underlying or coexisting diseases and conditions;
    (iv) the effect of the pain on physical and psychologicalfunction;
    (v) any history and potential for substance abuse ordiversion; and
    (vi) the presence of one or more recognized medicalindications for the use of a dangerous or scheduled drug.

    (C) Prior to prescribing dangerous drugs or controlledsubstances for the treatment of chronic pain, a physician must considerreviewing prescription data and history related to the patient, ifany, contained in the Prescription Drug Monitoring Program describedby ??481.075, 481.076, and 481.0761 of the Texas Healthand Safety Code and consider obtaining at a minimum a baseline toxicologydrug screen to determine the presence of drugs in a patient, if any.If a physician determines that such steps are not necessary priorto prescribing dangerous drugs or controlled substances to the patient,the physician must document in the medical record his or her rationalefor not completing such steps.
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  • sharpshooter039
    The way my wifes pain management doc explained it to us is,,, New Patients can only get a 5 day supply,,after the new patent has past a certain time "yet to be disclosed" then he can prescribe them 30 day supplies ,,existing patients would not apply to this,,just initial meds to new patients. Reasoning behind this is if someone is prone to addiction or abuse of the meds it normally shows up in the first treatments and the Doctor can catch it early instead of 60-90 days down the road
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  • Hunter Mag
    Guys relax, the government will take care of you. Don't fight it. Just sit back, relax and do as they say. After all they know what's better for you than you do. That's why they're here.
    Besides there's no choice.

    Long story short I was in the hospital a few years ago. After surgery I was in a lot of pain. The nurse called the doc to get me some pain meds. When she hung up she told me the doc said no because he didn't want me to become addicted. So there I laid and suffered because of the drug addicts.
    Don't you love this system.[:(!]
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  • Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
    Guys relax, the government will take care of you. Don't fight it. Just sit back, relax and do as they say. After all they know what's better for you than you do. That's why they're here.
    Besides there's no choice.

    Long story short I was in the hospital a few years ago. After surgery I was in a lot of pain. The nurse called the doc to get me some pain meds. When she hung up she told me the doc said no because he didn't want me to become addicted. So there I laid and suffered because of the drug addicts.
    Don't you love this system.[:(!]


    After my last surgery, they were going to hook me up to the morphine machine. I am not a fan of how morphine makes me feel, and said I would prefer the pain to the morphine. They then hooked up a bag of I/V Tylenol.

    Perhaps it was just my unique situation, but the Tylenol worked about a gazillion time better than the morphine and kept my head clear to boot.
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